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dannieboiz
Oct 02, 2014Tutor
Anyone got 6.2 on their legacy RN yet?
Didn't see any post on this topic, do you install 6.1 from the other thread then just upgrade from frontview?
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- KillerBobAspirantI am about finished running a complete (cold) backup of my Pro Pioneer, and will be installing 6.2 beta when done. I'll of course be upgrading to 6.2 immediately following that. It will be like getting a new NAS:)
As I understand it there may be an issue with spin-down and fan speeds. Are these issues still present, and are there any other biggies? - FYI: I updated the 4200 to 6.1 then 6.2 w/o a problem. All 7 of my drives shows up with full capacity vs on 4.2 I was missing 1Tb.
4.2 didn't recognize my Cyberpower UPS but now it does.
So far, 6.2 is addressing all of my previous issues with 4.2 as well as 6.1 - mdgm-ntgrNETGEAR Employee RetiredAny of our current models can be joined to a domain. Still it is important especially for large purchases to make sure you are buying the right product for what you need.
Models such as Duo v2, 102 and similar models from other vendors come with ARM CPUs and low amounts of RAM. This may be fine, but you do need to evaluate whether it will handle the load you will put on it.
The 312 with its Intel CPU and 2GB RAM can handle a higher load. - CharlesRGuide
dannieboiz wrote: We're getting to replace them all and no one said anything about NG but instead they're looking at Synology and QNAP.
I know next to nothing about the corporate environment and we couldn't be much more off topic... but I think this goes back a couple of generations. They were dormant far too long and let others bring to the table an interface (and or features) that surpassed them. And corporate wise it's not something that changes overnight... it took a relatively long time to become the prevailing view and it would take time to change regardless of it being valid or not for any specific generation.
I see the same thing on the consumer side. As an example at AVSForum mention NAS and a certain vendor's name is used almost in the way TiVo is. It virtually defines the category. It doesn't matter that on the low end models ReadyNAS (pretty much) out performs them and costs significantly less or the fact what makes it so much better than ReadyNAS are features you'll never use on models that you'll never purchase.
To a large degree it comes down to preconception. Certainly not in all cases but it creates a trend and one that's hard to buck. CharlesR wrote: dannieboiz wrote: At this point, it really doesn't matter if NG will officially support OS6 on legacy RN as long as there's a way.
I disagree. Corporate isn't going to use OS 6 because "there's a way" Even most of the consumer market is going to stay away. I have sold quite a few of the older units and in virtually every case I had to uninstall OS 6 and install OS 4 per their request... they wouldn't purchase it other wise.
Personally, I have zero issue with them dropping the older hardware and I'm sure there is some logic behind it. Interface wise OS 6 is light years ahead however at times it's too cute for its own good. At times I end up clicking my mouse over an image and hoping an option or two will pop up!
There are two folds to this. For myself, it is a PITA to have to jump through hoops to get things running but at the end of the day, I purchased my 4200 at an extremely good price so the little effort to bring it up to speed is ok. But when I spec out new product for my work, I look for one that works just out of the box. Last run, we installed RN dou v2 at 60 sites. We're getting to replace them all and no one said anything about NG but instead they're looking at Synology and QNAP. I haven't used a QNAP before but I'm pushing for Synology because a simple thing as joining the NAS to the domain requires a "Business Class" RN while any Synology can be joined to a domain. That's already a winning factor especially when we refresh hardware everything 3-4 years. We're actually replacing the NG early, at only 2.5 years because of the failure rates on these things. Nothing major but every few weeks, we find ourselves fixing something at least one of the RN.- CharlesRGuide
dannieboiz wrote: At this point, it really doesn't matter if NG will officially support OS6 on legacy RN as long as there's a way.
I disagree. Corporate isn't going to use OS 6 because "there's a way" Even most of the consumer market is going to stay away. I have sold quite a few of the older units and in virtually every case I had to uninstall OS 6 and install OS 4 per their request... they wouldn't purchase it other wise.
Personally, I have zero issue with them dropping the older hardware and I'm sure there is some logic behind it. Interface wise OS 6 is light years ahead however at times it's too cute for its own good. At times I end up clicking my mouse over an image and hoping an option or two will pop up! CharlesR wrote: I'm not sure it would be a winning case but you could make a case that supporting the new OS on old(er) hardware might actually increase sells. How? By increasing the resell value of the older devices more people would be willing to upgrade as the upgrade cost would be less. That's more related to the consumer market and as far as corporate having the ability to use the same OS on new acquisitions as their existing devices has to be considered an asset.
Since they were forced to move to an new OS how many corporations took a fresh look at the market versus simply purchasing the newer model. If they could upgrade their existing devices to the new OS it could sneak in via the back door and not have the "fear" factor of starting over with a new OS. Which again I'm sure caused them to take a fresh look at the market.
Much like corporations supporting multiple versions of Windows. In most cases they will do whatever they can to avoid it and if forced to upgrade you are opening up a can worms and you better hope you can once again come out ahead.
At this point, it really doesn't matter if NG will officially support OS6 on legacy RN as long as there's a way. We were just having a discussion.
Out of all fairness to NG, I also want to point out that as MDGM mentioned, Synology also discontinue updating older products and I've confirmed it. Just so that if anyone lurking the forum to decide, this thread does not give them false info and go buy a Synology. But I do have to say that NG interface isn't trouble free as Synology. :) It's more for geek vs DSM is very simplified.- CharlesRGuideI'm not sure it would be a winning case but you could make a case that supporting the new OS on old(er) hardware might actually increase sells. How? By increasing the resell value of the older devices more people would be willing to upgrade as the upgrade cost would be less. That's more related to the consumer market and as far as corporate having the ability to use the same OS on new acquisitions as their existing devices has to be considered an asset.
Since they were forced to move to an new OS how many corporations took a fresh look at the market versus simply purchasing the newer model. If they could upgrade their existing devices to the new OS it could sneak in via the back door and not have the "fear" factor of starting over with a new OS. Which again I'm sure caused them to take a fresh look at the market.
Much like corporations supporting multiple versions of Windows. In most cases they will do whatever they can to avoid it and if forced to upgrade you are opening up a can worms and you better hope you can once again come out ahead. - I have a dj212j that's still getting update. :)
- mdgm-ntgrNETGEAR Employee RetiredI hear Synology drop support for old models as well, despite some of them being much more powerful than many supported models and clearly powerful enough to run it.
Not sure how long the competition does bug fix and security updates, but the latest Sparc releases still run on the first ReadyNAS units we shipped. So the upcoming 4.1.14 firmware update (bug fix and security updates) will run on devices from 2004.
The ReadyNAS Pro, the first 4.2.x device released in 2008 will still get the 4.2.27 update etc. 4.2.27 does include an update from samba 3.5.x to 3.6.x
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