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aim54x
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Aug 26, 2015
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Expanding an Ultra4 - Backup, Factory Default and Restore? Just fill up the slots

I have been running a ReadyNAS Ultra 4 (RNDU4000) for a few years now with XRaid and 2x2tb (WD Red) drives. I am now rapidly running out of storage and looking up expand my volume. I am considering wether it would be worth backing up, performing a factory default and then restoring to reset the unit with a base of 2x4tb drives to enable straight expansion to 16tb (4x4tb) in the future whilst I have a managable amount of data to backup. I am also unsure if about backup and restore procedures on these units as the ReadyNAS box is used primarily as a layer of backup for my files as well as a DLNA server.

1) if I use a large HDD to back up the ReadyNAS via USB can I use this backup to restore the ReadyNAS after a factory default?
2) should I save myself the hassle and just throw extra drives in and worry about it all later?

My understanding is that you can expand a maximum of 8TB on top of your initial size, I will not be able to expand to 4x4TB drives without a factory reset as I have started with a 2x2TB initial size. I am a bit confused about the 16TB limit, depending on the firmware version (I will have to check) you can perform a factory reset to go beyond 16TB? I am sure that by the time I need that much storage I will have invested in a 2nd NAS box though.

A further question would be in regards to expanding the volume without a factory defualt.  Can someone confirm that if I add a 4tb drive ie (2, 2, 4, 0) I will have 4TB available (4TB usable space, 2TB redundancy and 2TB wasted), but if I slot a 2nd 4TB drive ie (2, 2, 4, 4) will I have 10TB available (10TB usable space, 2TB redundancy), or will I have 6TB (6TB usable, 2TB redundancy, 4TB wasted), and any expansion after would require a factory reset?

  • 1) Yes

    Your volume capacity started out at roughly 1.8TB so you can expand up to 9.8TB

     

    Disks larger than 2TB were not supported till 4.2.16. You should already be running firmware much newer than this, but if not update the firmware before adding larger capacity disks.

    Yes, you can do a factory default (wipes all data, settings, everything) with the disks in place to get a larger volume than 16TB. This should only be a problem if using 6TB disks or larger.

     

    In the second of those scenarios you would have 8TB. The capacity of the largest disk is used for redundancy.

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  • mdgm-ntgr's avatar
    mdgm-ntgr
    NETGEAR Employee Retired

    1) Yes

    Your volume capacity started out at roughly 1.8TB so you can expand up to 9.8TB

     

    Disks larger than 2TB were not supported till 4.2.16. You should already be running firmware much newer than this, but if not update the firmware before adding larger capacity disks.

    Yes, you can do a factory default (wipes all data, settings, everything) with the disks in place to get a larger volume than 16TB. This should only be a problem if using 6TB disks or larger.

     

    In the second of those scenarios you would have 8TB. The capacity of the largest disk is used for redundancy.

    • aim54x's avatar
      aim54x
      Aspirant

      Thanks for the quick reply, I think you have managed to answer most of my questions.

      I will definitely check my firmware version before doing anything. Knowing that I can get my current system up to 9.8TB means I may just be lazy and just throw an extra drive in and let it expand and hope that I have invested in another ReadyNAS, or even larger HDDs are available when the time comes to reset for further expansion. At my current rate it will be more than a few years before this becomes necessary.


      mdgm wrote:

       

      The capacity of the largest disk is used for redundancy.


      I was going to ask you to elaborate on this, but found the NetGear Raid Calculator (I have never found this before, only the Synology one)

      http://rdconfigurator.netgear.com/raid/index.html


      Thanks so much

      • mdgm-ntgr's avatar
        mdgm-ntgr
        NETGEAR Employee Retired

        Well say you have 2x2TB and 2x4TB.

        You would have a RAID-5 layer of 4x2TB and a RAID-1 layer of 2x2TB. 2TB + 2TB = 4TB, the capacity of the largest disk.

         

        Note if you did a factory default with 2x2TB and 2x4TB in place the initial volume capacity would be from the 4x2TB layer. So roughly 5.4TB would be the starting point. The second layer would be added as expansion.

         

        This also means that to get a volume capacity larger than 16TB you would want equal sized disks.

         

        Our current generation x86 models e.g. 314, have neither of these expansion limitations.

         

        You can run OS6 on the Ultra 4, but tis is unsupported.

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