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How I got apt update and install to work (with Debian Jessie retired)
OK, so I started off creating my own local Debian repository. Not recommended -- it's a lot of work. But with a lot of Googling and experimenting, I finally got apt to work using an online source. ...
Itsmearron wrote:
Hi Guys,
i am new to all of this,i accidentally updated my readynas 10200 to 6.10.10, i have now managed to downgrade from 6.10.10 to 6.10.8 and now i believe i have to manually update the apt files to get the apps sources back?
how do i get access to the NAS OS etc folder and apt folder? i have putty install but no idea what i am doing, if anyone could help it would be appreciated, is there a simple to follow step by step guide?
Thanks
No need to double-post, I gave you this on your other discussion thread.
I have been trolling through this thread for a couple of days now. "jump here, do this, then another entry to do that etc etc"
I suggest the GURUs on here would serve the needs of those asking questions by producing a document with step by step instructions and screen prints. A user guide if you will. This will save the gurus being annoyed by us nubes and will save us nubes being none the wiser after reading multiple entries pushing and pulling us all over the place.
Instructions should be written for the lowest common denominator. This shows you care and understand. The use of comments indicating annoyance with the questions being asked shows a lack of consideration.
In fairness to the gurus, you are asking a lot there!
None of them are being paid - they generously chime in as and when they can, with suggestions based on their own particular interests and experiences. To expect more is unrealistic. Gurus have plenty of other things to do!
It would be very time consuming for them to get together to write a step by step guide that has been tested and validated for accuracy for every likely scenario / starting point as to firmware version, current vs intended configuration, preferred trade-offs (firmware version vs backward compatibility for aps), user knowledge level, etc. And of course things keep changing - versions and dependencies change, repositories of older versions disappear, forward or backward compatibility with third party applications and systems is lost, etc.
Yes, for sure tweaking and troubleshooting ReadyNAS issues, particularly for minority use cases, involves a very a daunting learning curve for many (including myself - I know nothing about the use of let alone nuances of the various Linux versions, cryptic set-up requirements each end for the various secure file transfer protocols etc), but I have very much appreciated whatever clues the gurus have spared the time to offer, even if I have not always succeeded in getting the outcomes I wanted.
These devices are well out of any official support now and the user base is dwindling, and no doubt many of the guru's who have posted in the past will have moved on to other gear by now and may not even have their original device any more.
Perhaps, once you have figured out what needs to happen, YOU could be that guru who posts a step by step guide?! (or at least one that addresses your own scenario)
I have worked in IT for 40 years. I manage techos during high priority incidents. I have learned from experience that many techos can't see the wood for the trees, which is good in that it created a job for me to co-ordinate them. If they go off and only do one thing at a time, they are wasting their time and that of the end users. They need to follow a logical path and see the wider picture. Answering one question at a time assuming a high level of end user knowledge is counterproductive. Like I said it wastes their time as well. Unfortunately I have had to keep techos awake for up to 36 hours because they refuse to follow guideance. If I write a document, I dumb it down, I do not assume the reader has a history with what I am writing about. If I knew this subject, I am so annoyed with what is going on here I would write the user guide. Much quicker than continually answering questions and getting annoyed when a person has a duplicate question as they don't see the response in the many pages of responses already listed.
Helman wrote:
I suggest the GURUs on here would serve the needs of those asking questions by producing a document with step by step instructions and screen prints.
There are only two of us who regularly respond to questions here. Neither of us work for Netgear, and as ArchPrime says, we are just volunteering some of our time to help others.
This particular discussion thread has gotten long and tangled over the past 2 years, but both post 1 and post 37 have what is needed. Neither of us have the forum privileges required to create sticky read-only "how to" guides. Over time, discussion threads will get tangled and go off topic as other users post. For instance, your own posts move this thread in a very different direction.
Screen prints would require me to do a factory default (to undo the changes I've already made), and then go through the process step by step. I'm not going to do that on my own NAS, as it takes too long to rebuild it and restore it from backup.
I made my instructions as simple as I dare. To be very frank: If anyone cannot understand the instructions I gave, even when I provided the files needed, then they shouldn't be trying. Mucking with the OS of a ReadyNAS is a very easy way to make it completely inaccessible. And many still don't understand that they need a real backup of their data and would lose a lot if they lost access to their NAS.
I wish I knew how to make them as a add-on, but I don't. My expertise is actually hardware, not Linux. I knew some Unix and Multics back in the day, but only learned what I need of Linux for the purposes of getting more from my ReadyNAS and did so via this forum, Google, and mucking with ReadyNAS VM's and "sandbox" units I could always just factory default if something went sideways. Nobody has ever produced a "ReadyNAS add-ons for dummies" -- the given instructions assume the reader knows more about Linux development than I do.
There is also the reality that this is really just a temporary fix. Apps that work on Debian Jessie are getting long in the tooth and it's time people who rely on them start looking at other options.
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