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How to backup from remote to local
I am looking for help on the best method to do scheduled weekly backups from a local NAS to a remote NAS. Both NAS's are running OS 6.6.1 Local NAS is ReadyNAS Pro 6 Remote NAS is ReadyNAS 516 ...
Note that the above method does not use ReadyCloud - it assumes that both ReadyNAS are on the same network.
StephenB wrote:
Note that the above method does not use ReadyCloud - it assumes that both ReadyNAS are on the same network.
Just to amplify this - a method you could use is here: http://kb.netgear.com/29929/ReadyNAS-OS-6-Setting-up-a-backup-job-with-rsync-over-SSH?cid=wmt_netgear_organic
I think you can also set up ZeroTier on both NAS and back up using the ZeroTier IP addresses - perhaps Sandshark can chime in on that.
ZeroTier is an excellent solution to this. Do a search on it and you'll find a posting from me on it.
With it, you get an encrypted VPN that parallels your standard IP address. I have my NASes all in the 192.168.0.30 to 192.168.0.40 range on my local network and their ZeroTier equivalents are 192.162.192.30 to 168.192.192.40. I can address them as 192.168.0.xxx on the local network or 192.168.192.xxx via ZeroTier. I can actually use the ZeroTier address anywhere -- local or remote -- with any device that has ZeroTier installed. Advantages over ReadyCloud are that you use the same user name everywhere (so access the same home folder) and it can do NAS-to-NAS functions as well as PC, tablet, phone, etc, to NAS just like you were on the same network. Well, you are on the same ZeroTier network.
A lot like with ReadyCloud, there is a cloud based server that assigns ZeroTier IP addresses, but you have control over it for your devices. You allow or disallow them and assign their ZeroTier addresses. The traffic doesn't all go through that server, though -- it just provides the routing information. If there is something you need to do via ReadyCloud that you can't via ZeroTier, the two co-exist just fine, too.
StephenB
I tried to seup the backup job following the link you provided. The instructions just didn't explain what you enter in the host field or the share field.
I want to run a backup job on a NAS that pushes the data to a remote NAS at a offsite location. I want the backup job to select the entire share and send it to a remote share as a folder. This is similar to how Rsync does it's backups. This way I can create one share on the remote destination NAS that has a separate folder for each share as a backup of all the data. I can create a separate scheduled backup job for each share that I need to backup.
The procedure provided does not explain why when you enable SSH on a NAS you get a warning that Netgear will not support this.
I think I will look into ZeroTier now.
Thanks for the info.
on os 6, why not use replicate ?
The remote NAS will not be turned on except to receive the backup data once a week. Also I don't want to backup everything on the NAS. I don't think that replicate will do that.
McRob1 wrote:
StephenB
I tried to seup the backup job following the link you provided. The instructions just didn't explain what you enter in the host field or the share field.
The screen shots I posted here show how to set up a "pull" backup job (running on the backup NAS). https://community.netgear.com/t5/Backing-up-to-your-ReadyNAS/Documentation-for-Replicate-specifically-backup-and-restoring/m-p/1233571/highlight/true#M13910
You'd need to change the source from "remote: rsync server" to "remote: rsync over remote ssh". And of course you'd need to have the certificates installed per the "rsync over ssh" kb article.
McRob1 wrote:
The procedure provided does not explain why when you enable SSH on a NAS you get a warning that Netgear will not support this.
Using rsync over ssh won't create any support implications for you. You can see that here: http://kb.netgear.com/30068/ReadyNAS-OS-6-SSH-access-support-and-configuration-guides?cid=wmt_netgear_organic
"Support may be denied if it is determined that actions taken through SSH have contributed to problems encountered on the ReadyNAS. " Simple use of rsync over ssh won't "contribute to problems".
McRob1 wrote:
I think I will look into ZeroTier now.
It is worth looking at, especially if you also want to access the backup NAS remotely for other purposes. You could also invest in VPN routers that join the two networks.
StephenB
I have read over your links and post.
I would like to set up a "pull" backup job running on a NAS located on site. I think you call it the backup NAS.
Can you help with what certificates I need to install on each NAS.
The link you provided really does not explain what they are setting up. Unless you really know what your doing it's easy to get lost.
My guess is that you start with the remote NAS and do the following:
Enabling SSH access for root using password authentication.
- Go to System > Settings > Services.
- Click on SSH.
- When prompted with the support warning, click Yes if you are sure you want to proceed.
- Select Enable SSH and Enable password authentication.
- Click Apply.
- You can now connect to the ReadyNAS through SSH as the root user.
Note: The root password is the same as the admin password. To change the root password, change the admin password via the admin page. Please ensure you use a strong password.
Then on the local or backup NAS you setup the following using the public key you got from enabling SSH on the remote NAS.
Enabling SSH access for local users using a public/private key pair (local user mode only).
- Go to System > Settings > Services.
- Click on SSH.
- When prompted with the support warning, click Yes if you are sure you want to proceed.
- Select Enable SSH. Enable password authentication should be de-selected.
- Click Apply.
- Go to Accounts > Users.
- Click on a user and select Settings.
- Select SSH
- Click Import Public Key.
- Browse to the public key for the key pair and then click Upload.
- Enable Allow shell access.
- Deselect the RSYNC ONLY checkbox
- Click Apply.
- You can now connect to the ReadyNAS through SSH as that user with the private key from the key pair.
- For more detailed instructions on generating and using public/private key pairs with ReadyNAS
None of this helps me to setup a backup job on the local NAS to pull the data from the remote NAS.
I still have no idea what you enter where.
It's kind of like a giant puzzle with pieces all over and most of the pieces don't even belong to the puzzle your building.
Somehow I get to try and figure out which pieces actually fit the puzzle I'm trying to build.
Oh and did I mention I have to do it with my eyes closed because I have no idea what most of the terms mean.
I wish there was a single and clear example I could follow for my situation.
Thanks
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