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Clarkson
Jan 06, 2014Aspirant
Moving drives
Hi would this work.
As previously posted. I now have an rn312 . I also have a duo v1 with 2 bt drives.
1 . Put in a single spare 500 gig unused drive into the 312 .
2. Copy all files across the network from my duo to the 312 .
3. Remove 1 2tb drive from the duo to the 312 and allow to reformat to x86 and leave in xraid to copy the 500gig drive.
4. Replace the 500 gig drive in 312 with the second 2tb drive from duo reformat to x86 and copy first drive.
In theory I now have my data on the 2 tb drives running sweet on the 312.
Now tell me why this won't work. And if it does what I will need to do in practice to make it happen.
Cheers
John
As previously posted. I now have an rn312 . I also have a duo v1 with 2 bt drives.
1 . Put in a single spare 500 gig unused drive into the 312 .
2. Copy all files across the network from my duo to the 312 .
3. Remove 1 2tb drive from the duo to the 312 and allow to reformat to x86 and leave in xraid to copy the 500gig drive.
4. Replace the 500 gig drive in 312 with the second 2tb drive from duo reformat to x86 and copy first drive.
In theory I now have my data on the 2 tb drives running sweet on the 312.
Now tell me why this won't work. And if it does what I will need to do in practice to make it happen.
Cheers
John
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- mdgm-ntgrNETGEAR Employee RetiredThat should work. However you might need to connect the 2TB disks up to a PC and delete the partitions off them before putting them in the RN312.
- aksVirtuosoWould it be possible to:
1) backup to the 500GB drive for safety
2) remove one 2TB drive from the Duo and insert it to the RN312
3) copy the files from Duo to RN312
4) move the second 2TB drive and let xraid do it's stuff
Benefit, you always have the 500GB drive as a backup throughout the process. - StephenBGuru - Experienced UserYou are assuming that the backup will fit in 500 GB.
But you are correct in thinking that having a full backup is a good idea, especially if you are pulling drives from the duo. - ClarksonAspirantHi
Yes will fit its only 100 gig at minute.
So you don't think the 312 will clean up the drives by itself?
Was hoping just to swap the drives over .
John - StephenBGuru - Experienced UserThe RN312 will wipe the duo drives when you insert them. Your process should handle any single-disk failure in the transfer, since you are preserving 2 copies throughout.
aks' process also does that, though if the backup is NTFS, then you can also read the backup directly from your PC.
Either should work., though I think aks' approach is slightly cleaner. You end up with two 500 GB raid layers (since you start with a 500 GB drive). The users never see that, but it is a bit less tidy. - jrc72AspirantHowdy everyone,
Hope your 2014 beginning was a good one.
So here goes, I have Netgear shipping me a complete new chassis for my NAS 600e due a system fan failure and I am in need to remove my 6 hdds from existing chassis and placing them into the new chassis and keep all my data.
I have not done this yet and am a spin as to if this will work 100% and reclaim my data upon bootup. What directions am I in need to accomplish to successfully complete this procedure please. - xeltrosApprenticeSince Netgear is sending a replacement, the simplest thing is to do it with them. I'm sure they can confirm the procedure and you would know what they send you has been tested.
I never did such a procedure but :
=> I would not plug any disk on a powered system this could be interpreted as raid failure and wipe the disks.
=> I would plug them in the same order they are .
Since the system is on the disks I believe this would boot up with no problem. However I don't know if Netgear will send you a unit with the same OS version on the flash, so I'm concerned of what will happen if you have to do an OS reinstall before the next update.
Maybe others can provide more useful comments and share experience. - StephenBGuru - Experienced UserThe very first thing to confirm (before migrating disks) is that the new chassis is in the same family. Otherwise your disks will be wiped no matter how you do it. So if the model number is different, you might confirm here. Also, you are likely getting a refurbished chassis, not something brand new. So look it over carefully. Perhaps run the fron panel memory diag.
You should boot up the new unit with a scratch disk first, and then manually install the same firmware you are using on old version. If the firmware version differs from the NAS flash, the NAS will reinstall the firmware. The scratch disk install also confirms the new NAS is functional. After you are done with the scratch disk, shut down the NAS and migrate all the disks (preserving the slot order).
If you don't have a backup, you should address that as soon as possible. - jrc72AspirantOk, well
1st: my post is related to the Pro Pioneer 600e ( RNDP600e ),
2nd: I am not replacing a failed disk, I am replacing the entire NAS unit, bar the disks ( all because of a failed System Fan worth $20 ),
3rd: the unit being sent out is not a refurbished unit as clarified by Netgear ( yup surprised me also, so coolness to the highest degree for Netgear ),
4th: I have 10TB of data to backup so 500gig or 2tb suggestions won't work ( I wish but no dice ), I am putting either a tape system or another NAS in as a backup to the NAS, thanks though StephenB for that suggestion,
5th: I have updated the existing unit to latest firmware and intend on placing a 1TB hdd into the replacement unit and upgrading its firmware to the latest firmware before I even attempt to install the original 6 hdds - as per StephenB's post,
6th: I will not be doing a hot install, all hdds will be installed under full cold environment to avoid the formatting debacle ( I hope anyways lol ) as per xeltrox's post,
7th: I will be making contact with Netgear for clarification before I even attempt to insert my current hdd's with data on them into the new replacement chassis. I have replaced failed drives with no issues, however removing all drives at once and inserting into another unit all at once has not been done by myself and from my past readings have found the NAS box wipes the drives ( not at all good, NAS need to have this option upon bootup I think added to their OS:- Are you installing a NEW Chassis with your OLD existing drives Y/N )
8th: ALL 6 hdd's will be installed into the same corresponding bays as they are removed from, eg bay 1 to bay 1, bay 2 to bay 2 and so on, at ONE time then doing a power up after all 6 are inserted, otherwise wiping will ensue ( again bad ),
9th: crosses fingers lol - StephenBGuru - Experienced UserOn (1), as long as you are getting a Pro-6 or ultra-6 of some sort (e.g., and x86 NAS running 4.2.x firmware), you can migrate. But you won't be able to migrate if they send you an RN316 or and RN516.
On (7) the NAS will wipe the drives on a cold boot if it doesn't think they are formatted for it. But if the drives are formatted for that ReadyNAS family (4.2.x firmware in this case), then it shouldn't wipe the drives on a cold boot.
I still suggest making sure you install whatever firmware you were running on the old 600e (using the scratch disk method) into the new unit's flash before attempting to migrate your drives. Otherwise, it will attempt to upgrade/downgrade the firmware on the disks to match what is in the flash.
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