Please help me choose the right Cloud Backup Service for my

You have about 10 TB of data so far? Glacier would charge you about $100 a month to store it ($.01 per GB per month). Retrieving it all from backup would cost an additional $120.

A second RN104 with 16TB would cost about $1000 in the US, so it is definitely cheaper than glacier (payback period of 10 months).

There are cheaper services - Crashplan backs up my Pro-6 for $60/year (unlimited storage plan). Though unfortunately an RN104 doesn't have the memory you need to run CrashPlan. Perhaps your best approach is USB drives for backup.

@Stephen
I don't have access to crashplan in my country, but that's only a memory problem ?
Could crashplan be launched from a computer having full access to the NAS ? Does it do partial backup (like dropbox, one file at a time so if you don't finish it will take from where it left). In that case maybe the client could be installed in a normal computer and backup be done automatically from it when it finds the NAS.

Windows Azure provides some storage options too but won't be cheap. seen 0.028€/Go for 9To, higher capacity is available but you have to contact a representative.

Another option is a dedicated server but it's really hard to find a server loaded with more than 4Tb although I believe this can be negotiated.

but I agree with stephen, the cheapest/simplest way is to store a NAS somewhere. IMO get a NAS and backup everything then store it at a trusted friend's house, you'll be protected from disk/NAS crash but also flood, theft, power surge... The only problem will be slow internet connection. I believe dedicating a computer to do NAS most of the time (with freeNAS) will be more expensive than buying a NAS (even if you already have the computer, buying disks then looking at the electric bill...).

You also want to take sensitivity of the data into account. Carefully read the contract to see what they can do with the data.

Guys,
thanks a lot for the answers...

so @Stephen you are right, probably Crashplan would be much cheaper than amazon...
It's true that I can't do it automatically from the NAS, but I do have a mac mini that I use as plex server, I could definitely install it crashplan and backup from there the network drives.

@Xeltros, you have a good point on the uploading bandwidth.. I currently have only 5mb uploading, so getting my entire media collection to the cloud will take a while, however once I do is, it will run smoothly...
so may be as soon as i finish configuring crashplan I could upgrade my internet services to 10 or 20 mb uploading for a month and get everything on the cloud...
There is only one thing that I got nervous, what do you mean with take sensitivity on the data?

xeltros - it is available in almost all of Europe (at least the pulldown on billing address includes them all), where are you based? To get local servers (EU) servers you might need an enteprise plan. (crashplan pro)

Torcator- It might not be easy to have crashplan back up a network drive from the mini. There is an "unofficial" method for Windows documented here: http://support.code42.com/CrashPlan/Lat ... work_Drive I'm not sure how that would be adapted to iMac though.

You could of course back up the NAS to USB drives connected to the Mini, and have CrashPlan on the iMac back up the USB drives to the cloud.

xeltros is correct in thinking that it will take awhile to upload everything. Upping the speed of your connection will definitely help. I have a 35 mbit upload connection, though crashplan usually runs 10-15 (note I am in Boston, and use their servers in Minneapolis - both US). It took a couple of months to get ~6 TB uploaded.

Also, it is always good to know if the cloud service can read your data, and what their privacy policies are. Laws vary, and crashplan servers are mostly in the US. No matter what a provider's policies are, you should always assume they will cooperate with local law enforcement. Crashplan's privacy policy is here: http://www.code42.com/privacy/, and their encryption is described here: http://support.code42.com/CrashPlan/Lat ... rd_Options

They say that they cannot access your unencrypted data unless you provide them with your encryption key. The algorithm they are using (Blowfish with 448 bit keys) is believed to be secure (assuming the normal 16 round implementation). US law enforcement might have some way to break it (who knows?), but normal hackers shouldn't be able to.

StephenB wrote:
Torcator- It might not be easy to have crashplan back up a network drive from the mini. There is an "unofficial" method for Windows documented here: http://support.code42.com/CrashPlan/Latest/Backup/Back_Up_a_Windows_Network_Drive I'm not sure how that would be adapted to iMac though.

ok I could use a windows machine instead.

StephenB wrote:
xeltros is correct in thinking that it will take awhile to upload everything. Upping the speed of your connection will definitely help. I have a 35 mbit upload connection, though crashplan usually runs 10-15 (note I am in Boston, and use their servers in Minneapolis - both US). It took a couple of months to get ~6 TB uploaded.

ok, I live in south florida, and it seems that I will have to upgrade my internet provider. Probably I will get a service with 10 or 15 mb upload connection. Basically I'm not at home during the day, and I travel a lot. So with that it will have plenty of time to do the magic.

StephenB wrote:

Also, it is always good to know if the cloud service can read your data, and what their privacy policies are. Laws vary, and crashplan servers are mostly in the US. No matter what a provider's policies are, you should always assume they will cooperate with local law enforcement. Crashplan's privacy policy is here: http://www.code42.com/privacy/, and their encryption is described here: http://support.code42.com/CrashPlan/Latest/Configuring/Security_Encryption_And_Password_Options They say that they cannot access your unencrypted data unless you provide them with your encryption key. The algorithm they are using (Blowfish with 448 bit keys) is believed to be secure (assuming the normal 16 round implementation). US law enforcement might have some way to break it (who knows?), but normal hackers shouldn't be able to.

I'm really not concerned about hackers... basically I'm not uploading anything private... my idea is to upload my media, so it wont be a big deal.

Crashplan site only states prices in $, I assumed it wasn't available elsewhere since there is no language changer, no location changer or whatsoever on their site, but drilling down the sales I found France indeed. I'm used to browse US sites which are only US centric. I was browsing black friday discounts, I just got devastated by how cheap everything was. You could buy an xbox for 80€ (did conversion) when we could sell our second hand console at 120€ (which was resold with an higher price afterwards), I saw amazon.com discounts that don't apply to amazon France and so on. Same for netflix and alike which are not available in France. I'm so used to be excluded from US sites that I may have jumped on conclusions for this one.
But since France is known to be restrictive about data privacy I easily imagined that the site just didn't match one of the rules.

By data sensitivity I meant to warn about privacy policy but you answered already so...

Took a look at the windows procedure, basically they are just mounting the share at logon with the system user. OS X is able to automate things via CRON (deprecated but should still work) or with plist files for launchd, so this should work too because OS X is able to do pretty much anything from command line so... But if you have a windows you have the advantage of having everything already written and tested for you.

xeltros wrote:
...I was browsing black friday discounts, I just got devastated by how cheap everything was. You could buy an xbox for 80€ (did conversion) when we could sell our second hand console at 120€ (which was resold with an higher price afterwards)...

20% VAT is probably part of this puzzle. Though black-Friday was originally a brick-and-mortar store thing, it spread to on-line later on. So it probably still is bigger in the US than other countries.