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Max_1968
Aspirant
Oct 05, 2015

ReadyNAS Ultra 4 dead

Hi,

 

my ReadyNAS Ultra 4 which i use as a backup for my primary NAS was showing increasing SMART errors on disk 4 since some weeks... As i was about to leave for vacation, it was "only" a backup system and the failing disk was from a different schedule as the other 3 unfortunately i decided to wait with the replacement...

 

Now I wanted to replace the disk (the Ultra was powered off for some days), just to find out disk 2 is no also reported as "dead", although i never received any SMART errors from this drive... It seems this drive just "vanished" into somewhere :(

 

I'm going to check internal cabling and such tomorrow, perhaps also test the drives with vendor tools on PC (already tried unplug / clean the little bit of dust / replug while powered off) and such... But the question that came to my mind is this: If i were able to make a copy of one of the two drives on a pc or other system, would i be able to plug this copy back into the NAS and it would be recognized ? 

 

Any other hints what i could do to get #2 working again, i guess #4 is really dead as it was complaining for long...

 

Thx,

Max

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  • StephenB's avatar
    StephenB
    Guru - Experienced User

    I would start with running disk diags on the drives in a PC (lifeguard for western digital, seatools for seagate).  Label the drives of course.

     

    After that - you can contact Netgear about a recovery contract.  They might be able to remount the volume without too much effort.

     

    You could also try cloning either drive 2 or drive 4.

  • JennC's avatar
    JennC
    NETGEAR Employee Retired

    Hello Max_1968,

     

    If you haven't removed the disks yet, please download RAIDar 6.0 and install. This will give you an option to download the logs.

     

    Regards,

    • Max_1968's avatar
      Max_1968
      Aspirant

      Thanks both,

       

      JennC - I have downloaded the logs before i posted here, basically SMART logs for all disks except #4 were fine, and my volume was dead due to double disk failure. I didnt find anything about what happened to #2, but didnt look in detail

       

      StephenB - I followed your proposal, shut down the NAS, took out all disks, numbered them and run them through Seatools. Results as follows:

       

      • Disk #1 - SMART Test - PASS
      • Disk #1 - Short Test - PASS
      • Disk #2 - Did neither show up in BIOS nor (obviously) in Seatools
      • Disk #3 - SMART Test - PASS
      • Disk #3 - Short Test - PASS
      • Disk #4 - SMART Test - PASS (this surprised me as the Ultra reported it as failed due too to many SMART errors)
      • Disk #4 - Long Test - FAIL right at the start

       

      I then did a "full repair" with Seatools on disk #4, followed by another long test on it - This time result was PASS

       

      So it seems now I have the following situation:

       

      • Disk #1 OK
      • Disk #2 FAIL
      • DIsk #3 OK
      • Disk #4 seems OK from a PC perspective, but might either fail right away in the ReadyNAS or again after a short period of time, not tried yet in NAS after repair

      (BTW, these are Seagate ST3000DM001 drives about 2.5 years old - I never liked them, but I got the Ultra with them at a very reasonable price and thought for a backup system they are OK...)

       

      My plan now is to clone disk #4 on the PC to the one replacement disk i already have (same type), hopefully get the Ultra and the volume up again, and then replace all disks one by one with 4 TB WD red drives starting with disk #2 to regain redundancy asap. I'd also like to figure out what happened to disk #2, but that has no importance now...

       

      Does that sound like a good plan, any other recommendations ?

       

      Thx,

      Max

      • StephenB's avatar
        StephenB
        Guru - Experienced User

        Max_1968 wrote:
         

         I'd also like to figure out what happened to disk #2, but that has no importance now...

         

         


        About 35% of all disks fail with no warning (no SMART alerts, etc).

         


        Max_1968 wrote:
          

        My plan now is to clone disk #4 on the PC to the one replacement disk i already have (same type), hopefully get the Ultra and the volume up again, and then replace all disks one by one with 4 TB WD red drives starting with disk #2 to regain redundancy asap.

         

         


        Sounds right.  I agree that cloning drive 4 makes sense, the "repair" facilities in the diags reallocate the bad sectors, but really don't repair anything.  If the clone doesn't work you might need a recovery contract (or maybe per-incident support) with Netgear.

         

        If it does work, then back up what you can before you add the WD Red.  Rebuilding the array will stress the remaining drives.

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