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RonSchmiege's avatar
Dec 24, 2015

RN 104 won't run backup & locks up after 6.4.1 update

I updated my ReadyNAS 104 from firmware 6.2.4 to 6.4.1 and a scheduled backup job could no longer run. The destination was a Seagate Go-Flex drive with USB 3.0 connected to the front USB port on the RN 104 (formatted NTFS) and the backup ran fine connected to this same port under firmware 6.2.4. I found that the upgrade to the newer firmware had erased the destination drive name from my backup settings, but when I replaced that info with the new suggested name for the Seagate drive the backup still would not run. Upon checking the backup logs I find the following entry: “Backup Status: Fail: destination is read-only or files/folders could not be created. Check if these files or folders meet the destination file system limitation.”

Also when the backup fails it locks up the ReadyNAS with the backup light continually blinking. I can’t even power it down by the power button, I have to disconnect the power supply.

I have run a disk check on the USB drive and the ReadyNAS and both come back clean.

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    • I didn't make it clear in my original note that I used chkdsk, but I did mention that I had checked the USB volumn and found no errors (but I did use chkdsk to do that) I also safely ejected the USB disk before plugging it back into the ReadyNAS and attempting to run the backup. I have now followed this same procedure 6 times to attempt to run backup and every time it starts the backup and locks up (it won't complete the backup, it continually flashes the backup light, it locks up the backup utility and claims I don't have any backups set up on the readynas, it locks up the backup log and claims there are no backup logs on the readynas, and it locks up the other system logs and claims there are no system logs on the readynas). When this happens I also cannot shut the readynas down (I have to unplug the USB drive from the readynas before the readynas can be rebooted or shut down (and of course this leaves the USB drive in an unstable state so I have to run chkdsk on it, safely eject it and reinsert it into the readynas port. After rebooting the readynas I then can see my backup job,  I can check both the system logs and the backup logs and they indicate the backups have all lasted less than a second and the USB drive is read only.

      I have successfully copied files from the readynas manually to the USB just before I run the backup so I know the drive is not read only before the backup job starts. It's the backup job that is causing it to become read only.

      • BrianL2's avatar
        BrianL2
        NETGEAR Employee Retired

        Hi Ron Schmiege,

         

        Thank you for the detailed information that you have provided. Will you give the latest Beta Firmware a try or test another USB storage device?

         

         

        Kind regards,

         

        BrianL
        NETGEAR Community Team

  • HI RonSchmiege,

     

    I have had a similar issue already back in Jan 2015 with an older version of the OS6. When trying to backup to a USB drive the first time it would succeed. Any subsequent backups would fail with:

     

    Backup: Error backup job 'data to USB_HDD_4': destination is read-only.

    Only after removing the read-only flag by connecting the USB drive to a Windows machine, the backup would work again. I found that a certain part of the data on the NAS contained a Windows backup with a very deep directory structure that seemed to cause the issue. Never found a good way to solve it, though. And I always used proper eject procedures and the USB disk was working fine. Eventually I decided to remove the complete Windows backup from the NAS. This solved the problem immediately and I never had problems with "destination is read-only" since. This leads me to believe that there is a problem in the backup procedure to USB that in some obscure cases (like e.g. a very deep dir structure with extremely long file names) will switch on the "read-only" flag on the USB drive.

     

    See also: https://community.netgear.com/ejquo23388/board/message?board.id=readynas-backup&message.id=10196#M10196

     

    • StephenB's avatar
      StephenB
      Guru - Experienced User

      dsnpevl wrote:

      This leads me to believe that there is a problem in the backup procedure to USB that in some obscure cases (like e.g. a very deep dir structure with extremely long file names) will switch on the "read-only" flag on the USB drive.

       


      That sounds like a reasonable hypothesis.  There is of course a 260 character limit to the qualified filename size, and that can get in the way when copying over the network.

       

      It does sound like a bug in the paragon software in the NAS though.  If you can reproduce this (short of a full windows backup) you might want to PM skywalker.

      • dsnpevl's avatar
        dsnpevl
        Virtuoso

         


        StephenB wrote:

        dsnpevl wrote:

        This leads me to believe that there is a problem in the backup procedure to USB that in some obscure cases (like e.g. a very deep dir structure with extremely long file names) will switch on the "read-only" flag on the USB drive.

         


        That sounds like a reasonable hypothesis.  There is of course a 260 character limit to the qualified filename size, and that can get in the way when copying over the network.

         

        It does sound like a bug in the paragon software in the NAS though.  If you can reproduce this (short of a full windows backup) you might want to PM skywalker.


         

        Unfortuneatly, I no longer have that specific backup any more, so I cannot reproduce it. After spending several days trying to find the root cause, without success, I decided that the backup was not that important to keep and removed it from the NAS. That stopped the read-only message from occuring during backup to USB. I did document my findings in this thread: https://community.netgear.com/t5/Backing-up-to-your-ReadyNAS/After-backup-Destination-is-read-only/td-p/960340 . Hope this helps.

         

         

         

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