Backup ALL local shares to USB drive

I have the exact same issue as @tuxmike: RN102 being backed up to USB. If I do a "volume" backup, then it seems every snapshot is being backed up, causing the USB disk to fill up rapidly.

Ideally I'd like to set up 3 backups on "volume": daily, weekly and bi-weekly. Daily for quickest recovery, weekly for a "clean" backup and bi-weekly in case wife or kids corrupt database when I'm out of town... in each case, I just want to have just one copy of each backup, i.e. 3 backup copies at any time. A simple guide to how to accomplish this would be much appreciated!

Thanks

Diwakar

+1 for me. 2TB RN102 with 500GB free space backing up to external 2TB drive gives disk full. Do I switch off snapshot functionality in order to get backup functionality?

+1 for me too. New to the device so simply trying to use the GUI backup, but not particularly configurable, no visibility what's happening in the file system, and the drive filled up almost immediately causing backups to stop. Kind of defeats the whole idea of a simple, brainless backup.

What I thought would happen was:

First run a complete backup of the entire data volume.
Subsequent nightly runs just the delta.

What I would like is a configurable backup where I have choices. Like differentials, incremental, or multiple backup jobs that allow me to do daily, weekly, and monthly at my discretion. Is there a way to hack this through a SSH connection and get into configuration files to create custom setting for the existing GUI backup?

I have this working using RN104
1) Create back up job Source=share:filename Destination=share:USB_HDD_1
2) Create Job
3) Should save the job and take you automatically into Edit settings
4) Click on Destination
5) Enter folder name you wish to use on the USB backup drive or if it already exists browse to it
6) make any other changes you need. probably best to disable any schedule and run manually until you are happy with it
7) click on OK to save setting
You do need to repeat this for each share you want to back up & when run via a schedule and they then run consecutively

TAKE CARE WITH FIRMWARE 6.1.6 DO NOT USED USB 3 PORTS ON REAR OF THE DEVICE. THE NAS HANGS!!!!!

nickbatch wrote:
...TAKE CARE WITH FIRMWARE 6.1.6 DO NOT USED USB 3 PORTS ON REAR OF THE DEVICE. THE NAS HANGS!!!!!

I believe you mean 6.1.5, not 6.1.6 beta (which includes a fix for the USB port issue).

@nickbatch: thanks for your reply, but did you read my question? The way you propose is exactly what I'm doing right now. But...
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I'd like to see it working with any device connected to the USB, and not only the one I've created folders for each share and then edited the backup jobs for...

What about the snapshots? If you have snapshot browsing enabled, it will also copy the snapshots - The main question here is: Why is the exclude option disabled for all backup jobs except rsync?

How to backup a share to a USB folder (using USB port option) ? You basically can't specify a folder/path for USB destination within frontview.

Btw,
I know that most of what I want would work with rsync, but in my opinion, the other backup methods are simply broken by design (No excludes, no destination path, coping all data to the root of USB drive, ...).


Thanks for further replies,
tuxmike

Firstly yes i had a typo on the FW it should have read 6.1.5.
I have now tried 6.1.6 still NBG. Does not now totally hang the NAS but still terminated the backup job prematurely after copying 5.78GB of 31.6GB file when using the rear USB 3 port.

Am now running backup up to front USB port and will post back here if any problems.

Sorry @tuxmike. I must have misunderstood your first post.

Nick

I have a RN316 currently on Firmware 6.1.4.
Using these settings I’ve been able to successfully backup the /data volume using a Rsync backup to a USB disk (USB_HDD_1) via the Dashboard (Backup tab) and exclude the snapshot data:

0. “Add Backup”
Name: <your choice>
Source: volume: data
Destination: remote: Rsync Server
Select ‘Create’

Note: “share: USB_HDD_1” couldn’t be used for Destination - it was an available selection, but “Destination” turned red when I selected ‘Create’

1. Source tab
Type: volume
Name: volume: data

2. Destination tab
Type: remote
Name: remote: Rsync Server
Host: localhost
Path: USB_HDD_1/backup/RN316Store

Note: the backup creates a folder named ‘data’ under USB_HDD_1/backup/RN316Store
Note2: select ‘Test Connection’ - results in an Info pop-up with:
“Successfully connected to localhost::USB_HDD_1/backup/RN316Store”

3. Advanced tab
Remove deleted files on source - is checked
FILES & FOLDERS TO BE EXCLUDED:
- Select the ‘+’, enter the following in the “Name:” text box, select ‘Apply’:
/data/._share

Note: this prevents the snapshot data from being copied (i.e. /data/._share)

4. Schedule tab & Options tab - your choice

pixel8 wrote:

I have a RN316 currently on Firmware 6.1.4. Using these settings I’ve been able to successfully backup the /data volume using a Rsync backup to a USB disk (USB_HDD_1) via the Dashboard (Backup tab) and exclude the snapshot data: 0. “Add Backup” Name: <your choice> Source: volume: data Destination: remote: Rsync Server Select ‘Create’ Note: “share: USB_HDD_1” couldn’t be used for Destination - it was an available selection, but “Destination” turned red when I selected ‘Create’ 1. Source tab Type: volume Name: volume: data 2. Destination tab Type: remote Name: remote: Rsync Server Host: localhost Path: USB_HDD_1/backup/RN316Store Note: the backup creates a folder named ‘data’ under USB_HDD_1/backup/RN316Store Note2: select ‘Test Connection’ - results in an Info pop-up with: “Successfully connected to localhost::USB_HDD_1/backup/RN316Store” 3. Advanced tab Remove deleted files on source - is checked FILES & FOLDERS TO BE EXCLUDED: - Select the ‘+’, enter the following in the “Name:” text box, select ‘Apply’: /data/._share Note: this prevents the snapshot data from being copied (i.e. /data/._share) 4. Schedule tab & Options tab - your choice

This seems to be the best solution so far. I just upgraded my 312 to 6.1.6 and setup a backup exacty like above, I will (try to remember to) post back after it runs and post my results.

Previously, like everyone else, I had setup up a separate backup job for each share, which wasn't too bad for me as I only have 4. It would definitely be nice if they would change up the backup GUI to be more intuitive, like not having to specify the destination as a remote rsync to localhost, but just being able to do a "local rsync" or etc. Wishful thinking!

P.S. Thank goodness for this forum, otherwise many of us would be screwed...

I have purchased two Nas 102 devices one for a client and one to test myself, I had the older version Duo V1, which I must say is actually better than the NAS102 for backing up, untill they started to send updates that messed it up. You can't do a volume backup on the 102, it did it the once then after that just locks the USB device to read only.
Sorry to sound off on my first post here but I just feel that Netgear are selling something that is just not to standard.
It is a pity since it looked like such a good product untill I tread to get it to copy to a USB3 backup drive.
The work around arn't good enough Netgear should get on with release 6.1.7 with all the problems sorted!

I am now at the point that i'm just going to look for a better solution from a different manufacturer.

I really do wander if it is a lemon of a product :naskiller: