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ACCESSING WNDR4300 FROM MY C3700

GSPRODUCT
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ACCESSING WNDR4300 FROM MY C3700

How do i access my  NVR  SURVEILLANCE SYSTEM,,,,, That is connected to my WNDR4300 router,,,,,,which is connected to my C3700 router/modem..... from my COMPUTER which is connected directctly to my   C3700 ROUTER /MODEM..... They are  connected   by  the  YELLOW  internet port  on both devices    . Before i upgraded my modem,  I had one network on the WNDR4300.  My computer was connected to that router and it was connected to a standard modem .Now I have the C3700  which has 2 ports on thr back and its OWN network. So now I have 2 Networks and   2 routers. The internet is working fine .                                                                                                                                                                                      

Model: C3700|N600 Cable Gateway Docsis 3.0
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felixjoy
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Re: ACCESSING WNDR4300 FROM MY C3700

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antinode
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> ACCESSING WNDR4300 FROM MY C3700

 

   "WNDR4300" or "WNDR4300v2"?  Firmware version?

 

> [...] now I have 2 Networks and 2 routers.

 

   Since you've replaced your old (unspecified) "my modem" with a
modem+router, the straightforward way would be to configure the WNDR4300
as a wireless access point, rather than as the full-function router it
currently is.  That should eliminate your two-router problems.  Visit
http://netgear.com/support , put in your (actual) model number, and look
for Documentation.  Get the User Manual.  Look for "Wireless AP".

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GSPRODUCT
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Re: ACCESSING WNDR4300 FROM MY C3700

Its a   WNDR4300v2

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GSPRODUCT
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Re: ACCESSING WNDR4300 FROM MY C3700

Its setup as a wireless access point. I have   devices    wired and wireless connected to it . They are able to   access the internet  . When i got the C3700 i simply unplugged my computer from the old router, plugged it up to the new C3700, set up the C3700 and then connnected the wndr4300v2 to it via the 2 yellow ports on the rearand it worked.

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antinode
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> Its setup as a wireless access point. [...]

 

   I'm lost.  Your original post said "I have 2 Networks and 2
routers."  What, exactly, does that mean to you?  What are the IP
addresses of these devices?

 

   What, exactly, does "It[']s setup as a wireless access point" mean to
you?  Did you do what it says at "Use the Router as a Wireless Access
Point" in the WNDR4300v2 User Manual, or what?

 

> [...] When i got the C3700 i simply unplugged my computer from the old
> router, [...]

 

   And this (unspecified) "the old router" is what was previously known

as your (unspecified) "my modem"?

 

> [...] plugged it up to the new C3700, set up the C3700 and then
> connnected the wndr4300v2 to it via the 2 yellow ports on the rearand it
> worked.


   I'll assume that that means that you ran a cable between one of the
C3700 LAN Ethernet ports and the WNDR4300v2 WAN/Internet port.

 

   So, what, exactly, does not work now?

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GSPRODUCT
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I HAD a Modem that was JUST a modem. I had the  WNDR4300v2 connected to it. I bought the C3700 which is a modem and a router in one. it has 2 Ethernet ports on the back. My computer is conected to one, and the    WNDR4300v2 is conected to the other. When i say 2 networks i mean each router has a differant network name . C3700 (RAZORBACK1) - WNDR4300v2 (RAZORBACK2).    My NVR system is connected to the   WNDR4300v2.   If i unlpug my computer from the C3700 and plug it up to the   WNDR4300v2 i can access the NVR since its on the SAME network, and i can access the router funtions. Im trying to acces the   WNDR4300v2 while it and my  computer are plugged up to the C3700. (IF thats possible) . Im not network savy so im not sure of all the terminology but I learn quick. 

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GSPRODUCT
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Only i have access to the C3700 (RAZORBACK1) , and guest  and family use the  WNDR4300v2 (RAZORBACK2).  So i wanted to keep the 2 networks.  I can connect to  BOTH the C3700 and the  WNDR4300v2  wirelessly.   and my NVR , Magic Jack, Printer, etc. are connected to the   WNDR4300v2 by  ethernet cable.

Message 8 of 10
antinode
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Re: ACCESSING WNDR4300 FROM MY C3700

> I HAD a Modem that was JUST a modem. I had the WNDR4300v2 connected
> to it.

 

   Ok.  Those were the days.

 

> [...] I bought the C3700 which is a modem and a router in one. [...]

 

   And that's when things got (more) complicated.

 

> [...] When i say 2 networks i mean each router has a differant network
> name . C3700 (RAZORBACK1) - WNDR4300v2 (RAZORBACK2). [...]

 

   Ok.  There are "networks" and there are "networks".  That sort of
name is an "SSID".  It identifies a group of wireless devices which can
communicate with each other.  Different SSIDs can, but need not, imply
different IP subnetworks.


   An IP subnetwork is a group of connected devices which share a range
of IP addresses, and which can communicate with each other easily.
("Easily", in this case, means that one member can send a message out of
its network interface, and expect another member to receive it without
any help from any fancy routers.)

 

> [...] My NVR system is connected to the WNDR4300v2. If i unlpug my
> computer from the C3700 and plug it up to the WNDR4300v2 i can access
> the NVR since its on the SAME network, and i can access the router
> funtions. [...]

 

   _That_ "SAME network" is an IP subnet.

 

> [...] Im trying to acces the WNDR4300v2 while it and my computer
> are plugged up to the C3700. (IF thats possible) .

 

   It should be possible.

 

> [...] What are the IP addresses of these devices?


   Still wondering.  I'd guess that a device which is connected to the
C3700 would have an IP address in the "192.168.0.*" range.  The C3700
and client devices connected to it constitute the LAN subnet of the
C3700, and they share that IP address range.  (It's common to refer to
the address range itself as the "subnet", because all the devices in
that subnet have addresses in that address range.)

 

   If the WNDR4300v2 is (still) configured as a router, then its
WAN/Internet interface is part of the C3700 LAN subnet, but its LAN
(Ethernet ports and wireless stuff) will form a different subnet, with a
different address range.  I'd guess "192.168.1.*" (or, perhaps,
"10.0.0.*")

 

   Having two routers, each with its own distinct subnet (and address
range), would make it difficult for a device on one subnet to
communicate with a device on the other subnet.  This could be arranged,
but it would be simpler to arrange things with only one router (hence,
one subnet).  There are two ways to do that.  Either one of those ways
should solve all your two-router problems, and let everyone talk to
everyone else easily.

 

   One way would be to disable the router functions of the C3700, making
it work like your old (still unspecified) modem-only modem.  In the
C3700 User Manual, look for "Cable Your Modem Router to a Router or
Gateway".  This also disables the wireless-network stuff in the C3700,
leaving your WNDR4300v2 as your only wireless access point.  If your
WNDR4300v2 is some distance from your C3700, and you'd like the wider
wireless-network coverage which you could get by using both devices for
wireless access, then the other way might be preferable.

 

   That other way would be to configure the WNDR4300v2 as a wireless
access point (only).  In that mode, all the fancy router functions of
the WNDR4300v2 are disabled, and it, and devices connected to it,
become part of the C3700 LAN, along with devices which are connected
directly to the C3700.  The WNDR4300v2-as-WAP acts like a simple network
switch with wireless capability -- not very clever, but still useful.
See:

 

> [...] "Use the Router as a Wireless Access Point" in the WNDR4300v2
> User Manual, [...]


   As usual, many things are possible.  If all your wireless client
devices are close to the C3700, then they could all connect to the
C3700, and the only purpose which the WNDR4300v2-as-WAP would serve
would be as a network switch, so you could use the C3700 as a
modem+router, and replace the WNDR4300v2 with a simple/cheap network
switch.  (If the C3700 and WNDR4300v2 are close together, then their
radios may be more likely to interfere with each other than they would
be to offer any real benefit.  In such a case, disabling one or the
other might make sense.)  Your geography, cable-run convenience, and
who-knows-which-other-factors could all affect your choices.

 

> [...] but I learn quick.

 

   We'll see.  Let us know if questions or mysteries remain.

Message 9 of 10
antinode
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Re: ACCESSING WNDR4300 FROM MY C3700

> Only i have access to the C3700 (RAZORBACK1) , and guest and family
> use the WNDR4300v2 (RAZORBACK2). So i wanted to keep the 2 networks.
> [...]

 

   Ok, but "SSID" and "network" are spelled differently for a reason.
If you want client devices of the C3700 to communicate with client
devices of the WNDR4300v2, then you can't really isolate those two LAN
segments.

 

   If you run the radios in both the C3700 (RAZORBACK1) and the
WNDR4300v2 (RAZORBACK2), then you can maintain different wireless
passwords, and get at least that much access control.  Running the
WNDR4300v2 as a WAP (only) disables some features:

 

      https://kb.netgear.com/26765

 

But that seems to leave "ADVANCED > Advanced Setup > Wireless Settings :
Turn off wireless signal by schedule" still available (if you have it
now in that router model).


   Exactly what kinds of limitations are you trying to impose?  Knowing
_all_ the goals/requirements can reduce guesswork.

 

> [...] I can connect to BOTH the C3700 and the WNDR4300v2
> wirelessly. [...]

 

   But not at the same time.  An arrangement which lets the two LAN
segments communicate provides more freedom/flexibility.

 

> [...] and my NVR , Magic Jack, Printer, etc. are connected to the
> WNDR4300v2 by ethernet cable.

 

   I can imagine at least one more possible arrangement of this stuff,
but I'm not sure that it'd help.  Depends on exactly what you're trying
to do.

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