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XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

Cubiksrube54
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XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

Sorry, my model wasnt listed in the Model dropdown.  Its in the title.

As the title states - I'm in a double natted scenario, where my old Router was able to log into my PPPoE internet and get a second public IP no problem at all. 

 

How can I achieve that with this router?

 

Thanks in advance

Message 1 of 11
antinode
Guru

Re: XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

> XR1000 [...]

 

   Firmware version?  Connected to what?

 

> [...] I'm in a double natted scenario, [...]

 

   I have no idea what that means to you.  How, exactly, did you arrive
at that conclusion?

 

> [...] my old Router [...]

 

   Somehow, I seem to have forgotten everything about it.  Please
refresh my memory.

 

> [...] get a second public IP [address?] no problem at all.

 

   Two "public IP" addresses?  What are they?  Where are they?


   None of that is a useful problem description.  It does not say what
you want.  It does not say what you did.  It does not say what happened
when you did it.  As usual, showing actual actions (commands) with their
actual results (error messages, LED indicators, ...) can be more helpful
than vague descriptions or interpretations.

 

> How can I achieve that with this router?

 

   I don't know what "that" is.  I know nothing about your (unspecified)
"my old Router", or how you configured it.  I know nothing about how you
configured the XR1000, or what about it doesn't satisfy you.

Message 2 of 11

Re: XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

 

 

How to fix issues with Double NAT | Answer | NETGEAR Support

 

The XR1000 is a gaming router with its own DumaOS operating system and a diligent team of people who support it.

 

You might get more help, and find earlier questions and answers specific to your device, in the appropriate section for your hardware.

Nighthawk Pro Gaming Routers - NETGEAR Communities

Message 3 of 11
Netduma-Fraser
NetDuma Partner

Re: XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

Unless you are paying for two internet connections you'll only have one IP address. You can put the WAN IP of the XR found on the System Information page into the DMZ on the old router and that will resolve the double NAT.
Message 4 of 11
Cubiksrube54
Tutor

Re: XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

""

How to fix issues with Double NAT | Answer | NETGEAR Support

 

The XR1000 is a gaming router with its own DumaOS operating system and a diligent team of people who support it.

 

You might get more help, and find earlier questions and answers specific to your device, in the appropriate section for your hardware.

Nighthawk Pro Gaming Routers - NETGEAR Communities

""

 

My bad, I thought I did post it there.

Message 5 of 11
Cubiksrube54
Tutor

Re: XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

"Unless you are paying for two internet connections you'll only have one IP address. You can put the WAN IP of the XR found on the System Information page into the DMZ on the old router and that will resolve the double NAT. "

 

This is 100% incorrect.  Some ISPs dole out additional IP addresses.  Ive done it in the past easily, and just did it again now.

Message 6 of 11
Netduma-Fraser
NetDuma Partner

Re: XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

Is there a specific usecase for why you need two? The XR will not allow you to have multiple public IP addresses
Message 7 of 11
Cubiksrube54
Tutor

Re: XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

"Is there a specific usecase for why you need two? The XR will not allow you to have multiple public IP addresses "

 

I have one public IP with the router in front of it, and now another public IP for the XR - Im not using two on the XR.  I'm doing work on an older web server where they have hard-coded my IP to allow me access.  I didnt want to use the same IP for personal and business on their system.

Message 8 of 11
Netduma-Fraser
NetDuma Partner

Re: XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

Thanks for the explanation, so is the setup:

Wall/ONT/modem > Old router (1st IP) > XR (2nd IP)?
Message 9 of 11
antinode
Guru

Re: XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

> I have one public IP with the router in front of it, [...]

 

   Is that the mysterious "my old Router", above?  And it's connected to
what, exactly?

 

> [...] and now another public IP [address] for the XR [...]

 

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Protocol
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IP_address

 

   And how, exactly, are you connecting the XR1000 to your ISP, so that
it can get/use that "other public IP [address]"?  I wouldn't expect the
XR1000 to be able to do that from the LAN side of your mysterious "my
old Router" (about which I still know nothing), if your mysterious "my
old Router" is doing NAT.

Message 10 of 11
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: XR1000 - How to get public IP in double natted scenario

This would be a double NAT condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
https://kb.netgear.com/30187/How-to-fix-issues-with-Double-NAT
Couple of options,
1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge or modem only mode. Then use the NG router in router mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly.
2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the NG router gets from the modem.
3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the NG router to the modem, LAN to LAN configure AP mode on the NG router.
https://kb.netgear.com/26765/Disabled-Features-on-the-Router-when-set-to-AP-Mode


@Cubiksrube54 wrote:

"Is there a specific usecase for why you need two? The XR will not allow you to have multiple public IP addresses "

 

I have one public IP with the router in front of it, and now another public IP for the XR - Im not using two on the XR.  I'm doing work on an older web server where they have hard-coded my IP to allow me access.  I didnt want to use the same IP for personal and business on their system.


 

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