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tomiaurednik
Mar 29, 2017Tutor
User has been Auto deleted - all data lost
Netgear RN10400 , fw: 6.6.0, 2 x 1TB, RAID 1. User has been Auto deleted - all data lost. Can not acces local user home dir?!? Can someone check this? Or tell me, in which log can I check th...
- Apr 11, 2017
Please if you haven't already. Have a read of Having ReadyCLOUD problems since 3/30/17?
This announcement has been updated over time.
I'm going to mark this as the solution to make sure those visiting this thread see this post.
coloatty
Apr 02, 2017Luminary
Bottom line, the result is catastrophic for those affected. But it is still important to understand what happened because we need to know how technology works and what are its limitations.
I do not have the technical expertise of most in the community. The explanations that I have seen so far don't explain on my level what happened, but I can make some layman inferences.
Something as yet not explained and/or not shared (and there may be good reasons for that) messed with the NETGEAR server(s) that store ReadyCLOUD user credentials. ReadyCLOUD user credentials became unregistered from the NETGEAR server over the web. This probably caused the ReadyCLOUD app under the Cloud tab of the Admin Page to toggle from ON to OFF when the registered credentials were no longer avaiable. As a result, any ReadyCLOUD users (cloud users, not local users or local user folders) were deleted from the NAS by the ReadyCLOUD app. Whenever a ReadyCLOUD user is deleted, the OS is programmed automatically to delete the associated ReadyCLOUD user's home folder.
This OS behavior of automatically deleting cloud user home folders (not to be confused with the ultimate, unforeseen cause of the current problem) has come up before in the context of NAS device registration of cloud accounts related to the switch to MyNETGEAR (for me from using ReadyNAS Remote to using ReadyCLOUD). After dealing with that, I used ReadyCLOUD for remote access only, but did not store anything in the cloud user's home folder as Sandshark is currently recommending.
In connection with this incident, there has been no external intrusion into our NASes. The problem was an interference of some kind with ReadyCLOUD user credentials stored on the web, which removed the user from the local instance of the ReadyCLOUD app and triggered an automatic home folder deletion programmed into the OS running on the NASes. There are some advantages in certain situations to this behavior—for example, if a subsidiary cloud user wants to delete an account and the associated home folder from the NAS. In hindsight, maybe the automatic deletion feature should be something an admin opts into rather than being the default.
jak0lantash
Apr 02, 2017Mentor
coloatty wrote:
Something as yet not explained and/or not shared (and there may be good reasons for that) messed with the NETGEAR server(s) that store ReadyCLOUD user credentials. ReadyCLOUD user credentials became unregistered from the NETGEAR server over the web. This probably caused the ReadyCLOUD app under the Cloud tab of the Admin Page to toggle from ON to OFF when the registered credentials were no longer avaiable. As a result, any ReadyCLOUD users (cloud users, not local users or local user folders) were deleted from the NAS by the ReadyCLOUD app. Whenever a ReadyCLOUD user is deleted, the OS is programmed automatically to delete the associated ReadyCLOUD user's home folder.
That's pretty accurate, to my understanding anyway as, like you said, not much detail was shared, and based on my good knowledge of the ReadyNAS (I'm a former NETGEAR employee). I only have one thing to correct. Toggling ReadyCLOUD on/off doesn't unregister the master ReadyCLOUD account (MyNETGEAR SSO credentials), it only starts or stops the service. The "Leave" button is the one that unregisters the master ReadyCLOUD account, and that's when the ReadyCLOUD users and their home folders are deleted. So during the outage, the ReadyNAS OS didn't decide to stop the ReadyCLOUD service (toggling off), it decided to unregister the master ReadyCLOUD account. That is the bit that went wrong, again to my understanding. Regardless of the status of the ReadyCLOUD servers, this shouldn't have happened, maybe toggling off, but not unregistering.
- yrobertApr 02, 2017Tutor
Now that we all understand what happened, which is nice, what is the solution to get our files back (that are waiting on the hard disk without any access to it..)?
Or when can we expect a solution? :/
- jak0lantashApr 02, 2017Mentor
If you only want to use ReadyCLOUD again, access the local GUI with the local admin user and reactivate ReadyCLOUD. Otherwise:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Using-your-ReadyNAS/Home-Folder-Dissapeared/m-p/1257891#M127405
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