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Chiragtailor
Jan 03, 2022Aspirant
ReadyNas RND4000 v3 not powering on after power cut
Hi there I have a RND4000 v3 (couldn't find this listed in model numbers but the device has number RND4250V3 and RND4450V3 listed too) and after a power cut the device is no longer powering on. I've ...
- Jan 03, 2022
Chiragtailor wrote:
I have a RND4000 v3 (couldn't find this listed in model numbers but the device has number RND4250V3 and RND4450V3 listed too)The part numbering system can be confusing.
You have hardware revision 3 of the original NV+. We call all of the original (sparc-based) platforms "NV+ v1" here.
Chiragtailor wrote:
Can anyone help direct me to a site or seller in the UK that can supply the part and guidance on how to replace it, far too technical for me.Here is one supplier: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323971676540 Note it is possible to get "stock" supplies, perhaps for a bit less. But you'd need to make a change to the wiring in order to use them.
Netgear's instructions on replacement are here: https://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/READYNAS-COMMON/Replacing%20the%20PSU.pdf
Chiragtailor wrote:
I hear a clicking noise when I plug the kettle lead inTry removing all the disks (powered down) - labeling them by slot number as you remove them. Then power up the NAS, and see if you still hear the clicking sound. Also, check if the LCD displays "no disks" or not.
If you see "no disks", then it is possible that you have a failed disk, and not a bad PSU. In this situation, try
- installing disks 2, 3, 4 in their original slots (leaving bay 1 empty).
- Power up, and see if the system boots.
If this fails, try again with disks 1, 3, 4 (again, in their original slots), followed by 1, 2, 4 and 1, 2, 3.
If you find a combination that boots, offload your data immediately.
Chiragtailor
Jan 12, 2022Aspirant
Sorry would you be able to help me with the commands and how to run it against the NAS from the terminal of another machine?
StephenB
Jan 12, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Chiragtailor wrote:
Sorry would you be able to help me with the commands and how to run it against the NAS from the terminal of another machine?
I can, but not for a couple days. It will take more time than I have at the moment to get you started, and I won't be available tomorrow and possibly the next day.
- ChiragtailorJan 12, 2022AspirantNo problem at all, happy to wait and again just really appreciate the help . Thank you!
- ChiragtailorJan 14, 2022Aspirant
Hi StephenB , I've left it running for a few days but stuck at booting as expected. Please do let me know when you have some time to troubleshoot this. Thank you!
- StephenBJan 14, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Thx for your patience.
You'll need to boot up the NAS in tech support mode. Instructions for that are on pages 23-24 here: https://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/GDC/RND2110/Duov1_NV+v1_HW_en_06Dec11.pdf
After that, you will need to access the NAS with telnet. Putty is a useful telnet client, you can download it from here: https://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/putty/latest.html
The username is root, the password for tech support mode is infr8ntdebug.
Once in, enter these commands: (I assuming you are running the default XRAID here - let me know if that is not the case)
start_raid.sh mount /dev/hdc1 /sysroot mount --bind /proc /sysroot/proc mount --bind /dev /sysroot/dev mount --bind /dev/pts /sysroot/dev/pts chroot /sysroot /bin/bash
Now your data volume is not mounted, but the OS partition is. The chroot at the end gives you the full range of linux commands
Now the challenge is to find the oversize file(s). Start by assuming its a log file, and try these commands:
du -csh /var/* du -csh /var/log/* du -csh /var/log/frontview/*
Post what you find, and we can take it from there.
- ChiragtailorJan 14, 2022Aspirant
TEST POST
- ChiragtailorJan 14, 2022Aspirant
- ChiragtailorJan 14, 2022Aspirant
Hey StephenB , everytime I try to paste the results into a reply, the post is deleted, I've attached as a screenshot. So some of the commands didn't work (start_raid) and then a further one. I'm 90% sure it is a 3 disk XRAID setup.
- StephenBJan 14, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Chiragtailor wrote:
some of the commands didn't work (start_raid) and then a further one.
my bad - there were some typos. I've fixed them, so try again.
- ChiragtailorJan 14, 2022Aspirant
No need to apologise, thanks for correcting! I've attached the results, looks like these folders sum up to 1GB if I'm reading it correctly?
- StephenBJan 15, 2022Guru - Experienced User
199M /var/log/daemon.log
234M /var/log/syslogTruncating these two will likely make the system bootable, but there is more stuff that needs to be trimmed. So I think we need to look in some other places.
Here's what I have in my OS partition:
208k apps 2.6M bin 144k dev 14M etc 17M frontview 16k initrd 36M lib 16k lost+found 16k mnt 832k opt 16k proc 16k ramfs 208k root 3.2M sbin 16k sys 512k tmp 16k USB 158M usr 67M var
Can you try checking these folders?
for instance, enter du -csh /etc to check /etc. Note any large variations and we can drill down into those folders.
- ChiragtailorJan 15, 2022Aspirant
So after emptying those two files using the echo command, I was able to boot the NAS, however disk 3 was showing as 'Dead' in in RAIDar and Frontview. I thought it may not be seated properly after me removing/reseating numerous times during troubleshooting, it so I shutdown normally, took it out and reseated it.
After booting again, it is showing the disk as initialising (Screenshot attached). I'm now worried there could be a genuine issue with the disk but I dont want to shut it down again, so do you think it's best to let it complete?
In hindsight I wish I had run the commands for the other directories. It looks like it is going to take a while to complete initialisation (I assume this means initiatilise the disk and also sync with the RAID?), after which I'll go back into tech mode to check size of the other directories. Should I wait until both the initialisation and further clearing of log files is complete before I attempt any further backups/copies of the data off the NAS? I would like to do this at the earliest but safest opportunity...
- StephenBJan 15, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Chiragtailor wrote:
After booting again, it is showing the disk as initialising (Screenshot attached). I'm now worried there could be a genuine issue with the disk but I dont want to shut it down again, so do you think it's best to let it complete?
Probably best to let it complete.
Chiragtailor wrote:
after which I'll go back into tech mode to check size of the other directories. Should I wait until both the initialisation and further clearing of log files is complete before I attempt any further backups/copies of the data off the NAS? I would like to do this at the earliest but safest opportunity...
FWIW, you can also install the ssh add-on - then you could clear the logs while running the NAS normally.
Backing up the files is higher priority than completing the fix on the logs.
- ChiragtailorJan 16, 2022Aspirant
StephenBI can't thank you enough for your help! The initialisation completed along with the sync, so all disks are showing green. Checked the SMART data for the disk and it's not showing any errors, which is strange.
I've managed to start backing up my data which is a relief.
I've tried to run the command to get a list of the directories and this is attached, any in particular to dig into (if indeed I've run it correctly?)
- StephenBJan 16, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Chiragtailor wrote:
I've tried to run the command to get a list of the directories and this is attached, any in particular to dig into (if indeed I've run it correctly?)
It looks like you are running ssh (with the NAS booted normally). There are some mount points on the OS partition which sometimes can get in the way of analysis. The way to overcome this is to remount the OS partition on /mnt, and then check /mnt.
mount --bind / /mnt
Once you've done that, let's take a fresh look at total space and see if we still have a problem.
df /mnt -h df /mnt -i
BTW, to undo the mount above, you can enter
cd // umount /mnt
- ChiragtailorJan 16, 2022Aspirant
Apologies I forgot to mention that I installed the EnableRootSSH add-on. I've run those commands and attached the output
- StephenBJan 16, 2022Guru - Experienced User
Chiragtailor wrote:
Apologies I forgot to mention that I installed the EnableRootSSH add-on.
No problem.
Chiragtailor wrote:
I've run those commands and attached the output
28% utilization is in the typical range. So the system appears to have rotated whatever other logs were oversized.
There's no need to do any more with the OS partition at this point, although I do suggest checking the utilization every now and then for next month or so.
- ChiragtailorJan 17, 2022AspirantSorry for the late reply. That sounds great, will do. Thanks again for all your help!
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