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barryd
Feb 23, 2016Aspirant
Readynas 102 not backing up and freezing after upgrade to 6.4.2
My client has a Readynas 102 2x3tb system It is backed up by 2 x WD 3TB disks which are rotated and plugged into the front of the Nas. It has always been a bit problematic in that the WD driv...
- May 21, 2016
O.K. I think this discussion has run its course.
Now that this is fixed in 6.5.0 if you have any issues on that you should open a new thread.
I'm closing this thread.
StephenB
Mar 14, 2016Guru - Experienced User
StephenB wrote:
Running the same Music backup to the same drive connected to the USB front port resulted in
Music: 58.2 GB - 15,414 Files, 974 Folders
2:09:16 run time, transfer speed ~7.7 MB/sec
A big dropoff from 23.5 MB/sec.
Just wanted to add that I reformatted the SSD to ext4, and tested both USB ports again. The results are here: https://community.netgear.com/t5/ReadyNAS-Beta-Release/6-5-0-T322-RN100-series-front-port-USB-performance-is-sluggish/td-p/1061142
YorkBoy
Mar 14, 2016Luminary
Morning
Interesting as you say. I suppose given that the front socket is USB 2 and the rear USB 3 then some drop off is to be expected.
Thinking about this last night, not only did I get the ghost shares issue using my front socket I have also had problems under at least one firmware issue getting any USB stick recognised. I found that the insertion of the drive would not be recognised and I would have to try again and again. Strangely under 6.2.5 no problem and as I keep saying everything worked a treat.
A question. If I attempt to go back to 6.2.5 am I likely to brick my NAS?
John
- StephenBMar 14, 2016Guru - Experienced User
YorkBoy wrote:
A question. If I attempt to go back to 6.2.5 am I likely to brick my NAS?
It looks like one recent poster just did. Though it did work for most people.
You could alternatively reformat the disk to ext, and get the paragon ext tools on the PCs so you can read the backups. That would cost $20 and might give you full performance w/o lockups.
- YorkBoyMar 14, 2016Luminary
Thanks Stephen. The thought of bricking my NAS doesn't appeal and neither does paying out good money to enable a workaround for a problem which isn't of my making.
While it works I'll leave well alone and hope that Netgear will come up with a solution.
However i have spoken to a person in consumer law and would point out that users of 102 units which freeze or fail to work as intended now have units which are not fit for purpose becuase they no longer comply with their sold specification. This potentially opens other possibilites for owners. I don't expect you to comment on this, I'm just stating this for the record shall we say.
Thanks again.
John
- StephenBMar 14, 2016Guru - Experienced User
YorkBoy wrote:
Thanks Stephen. The thought of bricking my NAS doesn't appeal and neither does paying out good money to enable a workaround for a problem which isn't of my making.
Your choice, just pointing out that is an option. Even with 6.2.x, ext formatting would give the fastest USB backup speed.
Another (free) option is to fire up your NV+, and use it to back up your RN102 over a gigabit network.
- YorkBoyMar 29, 2016Luminary
Stephen
I have over the last few days carried out some tests which I have documented and I think they are if nothing else very interesting.
I have passed them (in pdf) to Netgear support but wonder if you would care to look at them?
John
- StephenBMar 29, 2016Guru - Experienced User
YorkBoy wrote:
Stephen
I have over the last few days carried out some tests which I have documented and I think they are if nothing else very interesting.
I have passed them (in pdf) to Netgear support but wonder if you would care to look at them?
John
Sure, can you PM me the pdf?
- barrydMar 29, 2016Aspirant
Just to remind the support team at Netgear that I am having exactly the same problems as Yorkboy with a 102 after upgrading to 6.4.2.
the symptoms are exactly the same although I am able to either manually or using third party software backup the nas across the network. The USB drives on the nas are unusable for backup now. As with Yorkboy the admin screen and access to the nas is impossibly slow when it is attempting to backup and the unit eventually freezes.
- YorkBoyMar 29, 2016Luminary
Hi Barry
Thanks for this.
For other readers.
Basically over the last two days I have carried out tests on my 102 NAS using the front USB socket.
The results are that from all five tests (using different USB sticks before anyone jumps in and grasps at straws by suggesting it's my stick that's the problem), in each case the NAS slowed down considerably. Sometimes it recovered after the backup, sometimes it didn't and finally froze requiring the power to be removed by removing the power plug as both the admin page and the power button failed to function.
As a result of this I have also discovered that backing up across my network also takes considerably longer. My last NAS to NAS backup in November 2016 (prior to 6.4.0) took just over 5 hours, the latest took five times as long in fact 29 hours to back up 143GB. So the same factors which are increasing the time taken to backup via the rear USB sockets appear to affect the NAS to NAS backup as well.
However, no doubt someone from Netgear will tell me it's me or my methods....
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