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Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
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2015-02-23
12:31 PM
2015-02-23
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Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
I am running a rn104, which is being a little troublesome.
It has the latest firmware installed, but ever since I upgraded 6.2.x versions, I get errors playing video files from a share on the Readynas. My playback computer is a Windows7 machine, and I use VLC as the video player.
When I start playback, it usually plays for a few minutes, and the VLC shows an error message stating it could not playback the file due to a "Bad file descriptor". If I restart the video, it mostly plays fine.
All my other access to the NAS works fine, I play a lot of video from the Readynas on my KODI/XBMC media center, which streams via an NFS share. This never gives me problems.
Anybody got any ideas to what could be wrong?
It has the latest firmware installed, but ever since I upgraded 6.2.x versions, I get errors playing video files from a share on the Readynas. My playback computer is a Windows7 machine, and I use VLC as the video player.
When I start playback, it usually plays for a few minutes, and the VLC shows an error message stating it could not playback the file due to a "Bad file descriptor". If I restart the video, it mostly plays fine.
All my other access to the NAS works fine, I play a lot of video from the Readynas on my KODI/XBMC media center, which streams via an NFS share. This never gives me problems.
Anybody got any ideas to what could be wrong?
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
I got an RN716 with FW v6.2.2 and have some movies stored in it. I have just recently downloaded and installed the latest VLC player on my PC running Windows7 Ultimate 64-bit.
It seems just fine watching a movie from my RN716 using VLC player though I haven't yet fully completed the movie until now. I stopped at a certain portion of the movie because I felt sleepy and will continue watching it when I have the time. By the way, my PC and my NAS are all wired through my network 😄
Have you tried to uninstall/reinstall VLC player?
Have your tried to reboot your RN104 as well as your Windows7 PC?
Have you tried using another PC/laptop if ever you have?
Are you watching a movie using the VLC player via a wireless connection?
It seems just fine watching a movie from my RN716 using VLC player though I haven't yet fully completed the movie until now. I stopped at a certain portion of the movie because I felt sleepy and will continue watching it when I have the time. By the way, my PC and my NAS are all wired through my network 😄
Have you tried to uninstall/reinstall VLC player?
Have your tried to reboot your RN104 as well as your Windows7 PC?
Have you tried using another PC/laptop if ever you have?
Are you watching a movie using the VLC player via a wireless connection?
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
Ixa wrote: I got an RN716 with FW v6.2.2 and have some movies stored in it. I have just recently downloaded and installed the latest VLC player on my PC running Windows7 Ultimate 64-bit.
It seems just fine watching a movie from my RN716 using VLC player though I haven't yet fully completed the movie until now. I stopped at a certain portion of the movie because I felt sleepy and will continue watching it when I have the time. By the way, my PC and my NAS are all wired through my network 😄
Have you tried to uninstall/reinstall VLC player?
Have your tried to reboot your RN104 as well as your Windows7 PC?
Have you tried using another PC/laptop if ever you have?
Are you watching a movie using the VLC player via a wireless connection?
I must point out that sometimes I'm able to watch a video without problems, but the problem is consistent enough to a point where it is getting annoying. The chance of a file playing without problems is less than 50%.
VLC is un / reinstalled whenever I upgrade. The problem has persisted over a least one upgrade of VLC.
My NAS shuts down and reboots itself every night / morning, on a schedule. My Windows PC is off whenever I'm not using it. Not Hibernating or in stand-by, but proberly turned off. So it has a reboot at least once every day.
I havent seen the problem on my laptop, but I don't use it much for videos.
The connection from the Readynas to the PC having problems is through a Gigabit Wired LAN, using a Netgear GS108T managed switch.
I have an older Readynas NV+ in service also. Playback of videos from that unit _never_ fails.
I suspect some kind of error / incompatibility with the RN104 and my Windows 7 setup, I just don't know what it might be.
As said, playback from my mediacenter unit, is allways without errors (from both NAS'es).
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03:24 PM
Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
What if you try to connect your RN104 directly to your PC then check if you will get the same error msg: "Bad file descriptor" when you play a movie???
Also, you may want to try the Beta FW v6.2.3 and it might help: viewtopic.php?t=78866
Also, you may want to try the Beta FW v6.2.3 and it might help: viewtopic.php?t=78866
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
I have not tried a direct connection, and dont see the point, as I would not be able to use it that way, so its an impractical solution. And all my network traffic (also from another Netgear NAS) to this PC is working fine, so I doubt there is something wrong with the network.
But I do have the network connection from the NAS to the switch configured as a bond, which both the NAS and my switch supports, but I will try turning this feature off, to see if that solves anything.
I have actually been running 6.2.3 Beta 6 for a few days, without it solving the issue. Otherwise the Beta seems perfectly stable, havent experienced any problems due to it being Beta.
But I do have the network connection from the NAS to the switch configured as a bond, which both the NAS and my switch supports, but I will try turning this feature off, to see if that solves anything.
I have actually been running 6.2.3 Beta 6 for a few days, without it solving the issue. Otherwise the Beta seems perfectly stable, havent experienced any problems due to it being Beta.
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03:32 PM
Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
The point of a direct-connection is to help to isolate the cause of the problem. It is not meant to be a solution, but rather to help with diagnosing the problem.
What protocol are you using for accessing the share from your PC?
What protocol are you using for accessing the share from your PC?
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
I'm using a standard Win7 installation, and that uses SMB(v2) for network file sharing / access.
After removing the network bond last night I didn't see the error, but I will have to play a lot more videos before declaring the error solved.
After removing the network bond last night I didn't see the error, but I will have to play a lot more videos before declaring the error solved.
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
Sadly not using a network bond, didn't solve the problem, Playback stopped with "BAd file descriptor" error yesterday.
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
Are you seeing any problems with the ethernet stats on the GS108T?
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
What kind of network bond were you using?
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12:54 PM
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
StephenB wrote: Are you seeing any problems with the ethernet stats on the GS108T?
No.
The Port statistics show no errors in either "Packets received with Errors", "Transmit Packet Errors" or "Collision Frames" on any ports. And detailed statistics for the port the NAS and PC are on show no errors either.
I dont think its a problem with the network. I can copy files to and from the NAS without any problems and with nice speed, and I never have an error doing this.
I find this a bit puzzling. Nothing seems to be wrong, but playback fails nonetheless.
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
mdgm wrote: What kind of network bond were you using?
I used IEEE 802.3ad LACP. I basically followed the instructions in this post:
http://www.primitivebuteffective.com/20 ... -link.html
Allthough it points to a S*nology NAS, the settings are basically the same, and it has worked perfectly.
And as I said, turning of the bond, hasn't removed the error.
I'll keep looking for causes, there must be some way to track down this error.
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
Teaming is enabled on my pro-6 (also LACP).
Generally I only see "bad file descriptors" from VLC when I sleep my laptop with VLC open. The messages show up when I wake up the machine, and resume playback again. I haven't seen mid-stream issues with the RN102 either, though that is really used for backup.
Anyway, it sounds like the PC is somehow losing the connection to the NAS. If you keep a windows explorer pane open to the media directory, can you still see the files when the problem occurs?
Is the PC a laptop or desktop? If its a laptop, are both ethernet and wifi enabled?
Generally I only see "bad file descriptors" from VLC when I sleep my laptop with VLC open. The messages show up when I wake up the machine, and resume playback again. I haven't seen mid-stream issues with the RN102 either, though that is really used for backup.
Anyway, it sounds like the PC is somehow losing the connection to the NAS. If you keep a windows explorer pane open to the media directory, can you still see the files when the problem occurs?
Is the PC a laptop or desktop? If its a laptop, are both ethernet and wifi enabled?
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
StephenB wrote: Teaming is enabled on my pro-6 (also LACP).
Generally I only see "bad file descriptors" from VLC when I sleep my laptop with VLC open. The messages show up when I wake up the machine, and resume playback again. I haven't seen mid-stream issues with the RN102 either, though that is really used for backup.
Anyway, it sounds like the PC is somehow losing the connection to the NAS. If you keep a windows explorer pane open to the media directory, can you still see the files when the problem occurs?
Is the PC a laptop or desktop? If its a laptop, are both ethernet and wifi enabled?
The computer is a desktop machine with Gigabit ethernet connectivity. I allways have full access to the net and the NAS. I can see all the files while VLC fails, the connection is allways rock solid stable. I can transfer hundreds of gigabyte to and from the NAS, without errors.
And as mentioned earlier, playback with VLC with files on my NV+, on the same computer, through the same network cable, from the same network switch, is _allways_ without errors.
I think that this makes it unlikely that the problem is with the PC or the network connection.
As it seems no-one else experiences this error, I guess I'll have to live with it. Will probably have to replace this NAS with something else, and throw it out.
Perhaps its time for a FreeNas build (or something like that). I work in IT as a profession, so I think I know what I'm doing. It should be easy for me to build such a setup.
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
I wasn't meaning to imply your network (or your PC) was at fault.
Perhaps the newer kernel in 6.3.3 will help (I'm not necessarily suggesting that you install it, though I haven't had any issues with it running on my RN202).
Perhaps the newer kernel in 6.3.3 will help (I'm not necessarily suggesting that you install it, though I haven't had any issues with it running on my RN202).
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
StephenB wrote: I wasn't meaning to imply your network (or your PC) was at fault.
Perhaps the newer kernel in 6.3.3 will help (I'm not necessarily suggesting that you install it, though I haven't had any issues with it running on my RN202).
Didn't now the early release was available for the arm based NAS'es.
Will try the 6.3.3 Beta 9 to see if it solves anything.
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
Well, 6.3.3 didnt help.
It works fine but the error still persists.
Have been able to actually force the error to show itself, I think.
Playing a video with VLC, if I at the same time log into the web interface, the "Bad file descriptor" message will apear, and playback will stop.
It seems to be an internal problem with the nas, not being able to keep up with the requested data, when its doing other tasks.
These are not high bitrate files I'm trying to play, this time it was a 50 minutes episode of a series, of approx 400MB. Not something that should make this NAS have the least problems keeping up the data stream.
It works fine but the error still persists.
Have been able to actually force the error to show itself, I think.
Playing a video with VLC, if I at the same time log into the web interface, the "Bad file descriptor" message will apear, and playback will stop.
It seems to be an internal problem with the nas, not being able to keep up with the requested data, when its doing other tasks.
These are not high bitrate files I'm trying to play, this time it was a 50 minutes episode of a series, of approx 400MB. Not something that should make this NAS have the least problems keeping up the data stream.
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11:22 PM
Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
I have been searching for more answers.
First, VLC has a build in caching, that can be changed to adress network buffering pausing errors. Elevating this to 1 second or even 10 seconds doesnt help. I can see it buffering at the start of a video (but for less than 2 seconds(depending on the size of the video)), when the buffer is set at 10 seconds, but still I get the errors.
Searching a little more for the "Bad file descriptor" error, some peoble have found that this is an access rights issue. They get the error when they try to access files on a share where they have lost their priviliges to access files.
Allthough I wonder what happens, this could be the case here, if the NAS revokes the access momentarily to the files I'm streaming. I just wonder why I never see the error in daily use then.And I never have a problem restarting playback.
But perhaps some bug in SMB access is present, where the NAS momentarily removes access to files, even when there should be access.
I'm really into deep water here, it seems there is nothing I can do about the error.
First, VLC has a build in caching, that can be changed to adress network buffering pausing errors. Elevating this to 1 second or even 10 seconds doesnt help. I can see it buffering at the start of a video (but for less than 2 seconds(depending on the size of the video)), when the buffer is set at 10 seconds, but still I get the errors.
Searching a little more for the "Bad file descriptor" error, some peoble have found that this is an access rights issue. They get the error when they try to access files on a share where they have lost their priviliges to access files.
Allthough I wonder what happens, this could be the case here, if the NAS revokes the access momentarily to the files I'm streaming. I just wonder why I never see the error in daily use then.And I never have a problem restarting playback.
But perhaps some bug in SMB access is present, where the NAS momentarily removes access to files, even when there should be access.
I'm really into deep water here, it seems there is nothing I can do about the error.
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
Seems scheduled power off / on doesn't work on 6.3.3
Tha NAS hung itself somewhere during shutdown with a message in the display about "Shutting down, goodbye".
So naturally the NAS didn't power on at the set time.
I am installing 6.2.3 Beta 9 ATM. Since 6.3.3. didn't help on my problem, I think this is a little bit safer.
Tha NAS hung itself somewhere during shutdown with a message in the display about "Shutting down, goodbye".
So naturally the NAS didn't power on at the set time.
I am installing 6.2.3 Beta 9 ATM. Since 6.3.3. didn't help on my problem, I think this is a little bit safer.
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
On your main problem, have you tried a different player? It might give more useful error messages???
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
No. VLC is normally my player of choice.
But I will try e.g. Windows Media Player or some other player.
This could turn out to be a bug with VLC, allthough I doubt it since playback works with VLC and files on my NV+.
But I will try e.g. Windows Media Player or some other player.
This could turn out to be a bug with VLC, allthough I doubt it since playback works with VLC and files on my NV+.
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
For the last days I have been using Windows Media Player (WMP) instead of VLC.
For the first 2 or 3 days playback was fine and I was thinking it could be a solution to use WMP, but then Yesterday I got an error reading something like this from WMP "Playback stopped due to an unknown error". Restarting playback works imediatly, and then the file plays without error.
Much the same problem I experience with VLC, just VLC's error message is different.
My conclusion is that the error is not only present with VLC.
But why does this error only show itself while I'm playing video's, and why can I copy files to and from the NAS without errors from the same computer?
Why is playback of the same files fine on my media center fine through NFS?
I'm really puzzled by this, also because I never saw this problem before updating to 6.2.
I'm actually sorry that I did, as in hindsight I would rather have stayed on 6.1.9, since that seemed to work without errors for me.
For the first 2 or 3 days playback was fine and I was thinking it could be a solution to use WMP, but then Yesterday I got an error reading something like this from WMP "Playback stopped due to an unknown error". Restarting playback works imediatly, and then the file plays without error.
Much the same problem I experience with VLC, just VLC's error message is different.
My conclusion is that the error is not only present with VLC.
But why does this error only show itself while I'm playing video's, and why can I copy files to and from the NAS without errors from the same computer?
Why is playback of the same files fine on my media center fine through NFS?
I'm really puzzled by this, also because I never saw this problem before updating to 6.2.
I'm actually sorry that I did, as in hindsight I would rather have stayed on 6.1.9, since that seemed to work without errors for me.
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Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
Well since no one seemed to know anything about my errors, and since it didn't help with other media players, I gave up trying to fix this.
Instead I have installed Kodi/XBMC, and uses this as a media player. With Kodi I can access my shares via. NFS, and since I set this up, I havent had one single error in streaming videos from my RN104.
I still believe there is a bug in the RN104's SMB access. But for now I have found a solution that works for me.
Instead I have installed Kodi/XBMC, and uses this as a media player. With Kodi I can access my shares via. NFS, and since I set this up, I havent had one single error in streaming videos from my RN104.
I still believe there is a bug in the RN104's SMB access. But for now I have found a solution that works for me.
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02:18 PM
Re: Readynas 104 gives errors during playback via VLC.
I'll just make a quick followup to this problem.
About a week ago I installed 6.2.5 RC1. This seems to have fixed the issue on my system. I havent had one single playback stop since I installed this.
And the NAS seems quite a bit faster in the user interface too.
About a week ago I installed 6.2.5 RC1. This seems to have fixed the issue on my system. I havent had one single playback stop since I installed this.
And the NAS seems quite a bit faster in the user interface too.
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