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kevinfor2014
May 07, 2017Guide
Best way to build 2 NAS Server (25TB each RAID6) for replication - using existing readynas hardware
we are trying to build 2 NAS servers with around 25TB RAID6 Storage (replicate with each other -21TB used so far) & we need to figure out the least expensive way to do this utilizing existing hardwar...
- May 07, 2017
I'm not sure if your target sizes are TiB or TB. I'm assuming TiB.
The general rule with dual redundancy is that the four largest disks should all be the same size. Otherwise you are wasting space. IMO the small disks don't really help enough to be worth the trouble.
What I would do is get one more 6 TB drive and go with
RN716x: 4x10TB+8 TB -> 28 TB (25.4 TiB) of total storage
RN628x: 4x6TB+4x4TB-> 28 TB (25.4 TiB) of total storage
No need for the EDA500s or small disks.
If you can't spend anything on new drives then go with
RN628x: 3x6TB+5x4TB (24TB) with a second volume on one of the EDA500s: 1x3TB + 3x2TB (4 TB).
That also gives you 28 TB total, though split across two volumes. Note it wastes space on both the 628x and the EDA500 (since the four largest disks aren't the same size).
The drawback with both plans is that they require a full backup of your existing setup before you can migrate to it. I don't see any path that avoids that problem though.
StephenB
May 07, 2017Guru - Experienced User
I'm not sure if your target sizes are TiB or TB. I'm assuming TiB.
The general rule with dual redundancy is that the four largest disks should all be the same size. Otherwise you are wasting space. IMO the small disks don't really help enough to be worth the trouble.
What I would do is get one more 6 TB drive and go with
RN716x: 4x10TB+8 TB -> 28 TB (25.4 TiB) of total storage
RN628x: 4x6TB+4x4TB-> 28 TB (25.4 TiB) of total storage
No need for the EDA500s or small disks.
If you can't spend anything on new drives then go with
RN628x: 3x6TB+5x4TB (24TB) with a second volume on one of the EDA500s: 1x3TB + 3x2TB (4 TB).
That also gives you 28 TB total, though split across two volumes. Note it wastes space on both the 628x and the EDA500 (since the four largest disks aren't the same size).
The drawback with both plans is that they require a full backup of your existing setup before you can migrate to it. I don't see any path that avoids that problem though.
- kevinfor2014May 09, 2017Guide
thanks Stephen,
we don't have extra space to backup both NAS for drive changes at the same time.. - so I think we will move a single 10TB over to the 716 convert to XRAID5 rsynce all the data onto it, factory reset 628x with the drives mentioned above.. resync to it.. then factory reset the 716x with RAID6.. then nightly rsync so one is a mirror of the other.
what is your thoughts on 10TB drives between WD Gold & Ironwolf/standard & pro ... Lastly XRAID6 -vs- FlexRaid6 - if a 6 bay NAS factory reset with XRAID5, and you install (500,640,750, 1,1.5TB,2,2.5TB) Click to turn off XRAID - Set FlexRAID6, let it finish it's rebuild.. then click XRAID on - does that give you 3.5Tib usable, 1.82Tib protection & 2.73Tib unused( like XRAID6 should) - or only 2.25Tib usable 931Gib protection & 4.9Tib unused (like FlexRaid6 per the xraid calulator) with the 4.x code you could setup "factory reset with dual redundancy" Xraid6 out of the box with 6 drives.. that only seems to be an option now with 8 bay or above..
P.S. I think we have met before - were you at the Netgear SMB meeting in San Jose in December - if so feel free to IM me for the group photo..
- StephenBMay 10, 2017Guru - Experienced User
kevinfor2014 wrote:
P.S. I think we have met before - were you at the Netgear SMB meeting in San Jose in December - if so feel free to IM me for the group photo..
Yes, we met there. :smileyhappy: I'll PM you on the group photo.
kevinfor2014 wrote:
we don't have extra space to backup both NAS for drive changes at the same time.. - so I think we will move a single 10TB over to the 716 convert to XRAID5 rsynce all the data onto it, factory reset 628x with the drives mentioned above.. resync to it.. then factory reset the 716x with RAID6.. then nightly rsync so one is a mirror of the other.
That should work too, assuming that you are also putting 4x10TB on the RN716 before the final reset. 2x4TB and 1x8TB will both work, I suggested 1x8TB to give you an empty slot for expansion (plus you waste 2 TB if you deploy a single 8 TB in the RN628).
kevinfor2014 wrote:
what is your thoughts on 10TB drives between WD Gold & Ironwolf/standard & pro
I haven't used any 10 TB drives. My systems all use WD Reds (not the pros) at the moment. My only experience with the Ironwolf is with the 1 TB model. That worked well in my RN526x for testing, but they aren't anywhere close to large enough.
As you likely recall, I am a home user with a home office, so I don't need the performance boost of enterprise-class drives (and I prefer the lower temps of the NAS-purposed drives). So I can only comment on the drive specs, with no personal experience behind it. Seagate DM drives (particularly the 3 TB DM) don't seem to work out well (based on posts here) but I don't see many problems posted here with Ironwolf.
- The Ironwolf Pro is slightly quieter and uses a bit less power. So it should also be a bit cooler.
- The WDC gold has a much higher workload rating (FWIW).
- The WDC gold has side-mounting holes, so the toolless insert in the disk tray should work. The Seagates don't.
Note also that the RN628 trays should have more mounting holes on the bottom than your older RN716 trays. If you are using screws to mount the drives, you might want to shuffle the trays around to make sure you can accomodate the alternative mount points on the larger drives.
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