Migrate a volume os6 readynas 316 to 516

a couple more tips regarding backup and restoration of plex..

* before you copy the existing plex data, make sure plex is not running (you do not want the plex data changing while you are trying to copy it)

* make sure you have a copy of the current plex .deb install file (you can get from plex website if you don't have it)

* when you are ready to restore the plex data (to same or new nas), if plex is not already installed, then you can copy your plex folder/files over, then install plex and turn it on.

* If you already had plex installed, make sure the same version of plex is installed is the same as your backup, then make sure plex is NOT running. Copy your data folder, overwriting existing. After the data is restored, install plex AGAIN, so the install script can update/set any permissions on data that may have gotten messed up.

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TeknoJnky wrote:

a couple more tips regarding backup and restoration of plex...

 

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Yeah, these make a lot of sense.

But where do you type CMD i access the nas from a browser using the ip address to open the admin user interface i dont understand where you are supposed to type these commands into help please

You do that in Windows File Explorer, not a browser.

Gotcha 👍

Thanks to you all for your input have printed out all the info and tips you have given i will download the nas settings and also hope that when i restore these will save some time drives will be here monday will make sure over the weekend end the backup nas is fully synced to the main nas and bight the bullet

Hi guys tried your instruction i've got stuck 

Looked in frontview to enable SSH got warning that if enabled Netgear would deny help and as didn't know if could disable after got nervous

So downloaded WinSCP tried all sorts of things using FTP typed some of your commands plus the one from the plex website  /apps/plexmediaserver/MediaLibrary/Plex media Server

all to no avail

New drives arrived today but would rather wait to see if i/we can managed to save and restore the Plex inc file any help suggestions would be most appreciated as always from you guys

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pgjscottieuk wrote:

...Looked in frontview to enable SSH got warning that if enabled Netgear would deny help and as didn't know if could disable after got nervous...

 

 

I told you how to do it without ssh here: https://community.netgear.com/t5/Using-your-ReadyNAS/Migrate-a-volume-os6-readynas-316-to-516/m-p/1450029/highlight/true#M139629

The commands in my post are all done from Windows, no ssh involved.

I tried all of that i didn’ work i later got into the files using WinScp after enabeling SSH

and using roor as admin then my password for the nas 

the only file i could see that matched what the chap from plex had talked about was the metadata file i could not see the plex inc file i will continue tomorrow with that new drives arrived today have unpacked them and letting them warm up before testing them all using crystaldiskinfo before install 

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pgjscottieuk wrote:

I tried all of that i didn’ work

Did you get an error when you mapped data volume to a Windows Drive letter?  If so, what error?

If not, then where did you get stuck?

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pgjscottieuk wrote:

I tried all of that i didn’ work i later got into the files using WinScp after enabeling SSH

and using roor as admin then my password for the nas 

the only file i could see that matched what the chap from plex had talked about was the metadata file 

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I have no idea what the plex chap told you.  But I do know that the plex library is stored in .apps/plexmediaserver on the data volume of the NAS.  That folder is also mounted as /apps if you are using ssh, so /apps/plexmediaserver is the same folder as .apps/plexmediaserver. 

The data is on the nas not on the windows htpc its the plex server on the 516 any way hopefully i have copied that data over in to temp file on the windows htpc

At the moment the nas is still syncing the new drives ne that has finnished what is the best way to recover the data from the backup nas i was going to enable a backup in the backup nas to put the data back onto the main nas or should i re-establish the back up on that nas with resync would that copy the data back even though the new drives are empty

I found the Plex Media server file coppied it over to a temp file on my htpc just having a nightmare getting my files back from the backup nas waiting for the main nas to Resync about six hours to go then the only way i can see is to manually copy the films over one by one 1200 of them 

I noticed on the backup nas that the share i keep my movies in called FILMS has another folder inside it FILMS ?

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pgjscottieuk wrote:

I noticed on the backup nas that the share i keep my movies in called FILMS has another folder inside it FILMS ?

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That happens if the backup job is misconfigured.  If you are doing a "push" backup you need to put a forward slash in the path of the source.  See step 16 here: https://kb.netgear.com/29741/How-do-I-back-up-data-between-two-ReadyNAS-OS-6-systems-using-the-backup-manager

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pgjscottieuk wrote:

the only way i can see is to manually copy the films over one by one 1200 of them 

 

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Why?  Can you give more details?

This is how the original backup was done they are the instuctions i followed in the beggining but in trying to get the data back from the backup source i got myself in a mess because i could not see how to recover the data from the backup job i thought ok i'll just create a backup job from the backup nas to the main nas circumventing the problem which is when i discovered the creation of the file within a file situation can i delete that file or will i loose my data years of movies

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pgjscottieuk wrote:

which is when i discovered the creation of the file within a file situation can i delete that file or will i loose my data years of movies

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Well, you could move everything in FILMS\FILMS in FILMS and then delete /FILMS/FILMS.  Obviously you want to be careful not to overwrite a newer film that already exists in /FILMS.

Once you've done that, you could delete \FILMS\FILMS.

Perhaps rhe best solution would be once i know all the films are back on the main nas delete the shares on the backup nas deleting all content start afresh as i deleted the backup jobs and make sure i configure it correctly ? 

So in configuring the backup should the entry be local side browse FILMS select this share the on the remote side to avoid the folder within a folder destination share /FILMS or no forward slash

HOW TO BACK.UP BETWEEN TWO READYNAS OS6 SYSTEMS (USING THE BACKUP MANAGER)

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pgjscottieuk wrote:

So in configuring the backup should the entry be local side browse FILMS select this share the on the remote side to avoid the folder within a folder destination share /FILMS or no forward slash

 

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Again, if you have a remote source, the answer is in step 16 in kb article.  The picture is quite clear.   The source is "share:sharename", and the path is a single forward slash.  

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pgjscottieuk wrote:

Perhaps rhe best solution would be once i know all the films are back on the main nas delete the shares on the backup nas deleting all content start afresh as i deleted the backup jobs and make sure i configure it correctly ? 

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You could do that. I was assuming that you needed to merge FILMS subfolder into the main FILMS folder, so you'd have them all to put back on the main NAS.

That was what i wanted to do but unfortunately with the time difference in posting with you guys it makes it quiet drawn out but VERY grateful for all the tech support you give us so i did try yesterday to get some chat help with netgear but it was hopeless im not v good at typing and 3 agents later and about an hour the help i was advised was the exact steps i started out with so i gave up with that got up at 4.30 this morning and started manually dragging and dropping each film from the backup nas back to the main nas one by one 

To avoid confusion on my part from the diagram you showed it looks like the backup is being initiated from the backup source and so called pulling the backup i think one of you have mentioned ?

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pgjscottieuk wrote:

To avoid confusion on my part from the diagram you showed it looks like the backup is being initiated from the backup source and so called pulling the backup i think one of you have mentioned ?

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That's called "pushing", since the data is being "pushed" from the source NAS to the backup destination.  

Other than getting the push/pull naming backwards, you are correct.  The / in the path name is needed only when the backup is initiated from the backup source.

If you are doing the backup from destination NAS (the "pull" backup), then the path is blank on the destination (with share:sharename in the name field).  The source path is the sharename, with no slashes anywhere.

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pgjscottieuk wrote:

up at 4.30 this morning and started manually dragging and dropping each film from the backup nas back to the main nas one by one 

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I don't understand what you are stuck on. All you need to do is take the backup jobs you already have, and reverse the source and destination.  You'd also need to enable rsync (read/write) on the main NAS if you haven't done that already.

But if you feel you need to drag/drop, you perhaps should use something like teracopy (which handles bulk copies better than Windows), and also has a verify function.

Thank you for sorting that because when i set the backup originally with just the two shares i had no problems at all what i had not realised was having removed the original volume 6 x 4tb drives and replaced with 6 x 10tb drives the system would not be able to restore the volume because it no longer existed so somehow when i was trying to push the dat back to the main nas in the settings i guess the new folders appeared 

Even after restoring the main nas i will have to start a new backup because the one thats there beolonged to a different volume

Than you for you help and patience all sorted finally destroyed old back up on 316 and just in the process of redoing thanks once again Merry Xmas to everyone at Netgear community

I'm glad everything is operational again, and that we were able to help.