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37 TopicsWD20EFRX - WD Red with DUO v1
I see some interest in this drive working on the DUO v1 and thought my recent experience could be useful. Other threads reference this topic but are slightly off from the original titles so I hope starting a new post is proper etiquette. If you are a DUO v1 user, are interested in this drive and don't need to purchase urgently it could be worthwhile waiting for the Netgear guys to finish their testing of the WD20EFRX to see if it gets on the HCL. After a disk failure it was time for a replacement and upgrade to 2TB. I have two backups (one offsite), the mirrored disk and all data can be replicated from other sources so I was not worried at all about my data which is for home use only. A local warehouse stocked the WD Caviar Green WD20EARX, it was on the HCL so off I went. The sales guy warned me about issues with Green drives on a NAS and sold me the new WD20EFRX confirming the WD site shows the ReadyNAS DUO as compatible (no version mentioned). Please no scoffing, but at the time I didn't even know there was a v1 and v2 and didn't even spot this on the HCL (going blind), perhaps WD should amend their site for us numpties. To sumarise the last 4 days: --> A couple of weeks ago I had upgraded to RAIDiator 4.1.9 via frontview (it showed there was a new version) ---> Removed the bad disk, backed up all data from the good one (I already had another which is the same but...) --> Shutdown, inserted the first disk and performed a factory reset. First power up hung, found on forum powering off and on would fix it --> Format and resync went fine. --> Added second disk, format and resync went fine. --> Connected USB backup drive. DUO hung had to power off physically. --> Resync ran but when complete ran again automatically, restarted with volume scan all ok. --> Restored approx 360gb data --> Not happy with previous resync. Ran manually. It went twice again but left it. Finished OK. Not sure if the double resyncs are normal but apart from that I am impressed. The disks are very quiet, I can't hear them...unlike the old Samsungs. The fan used to run at 2700rpm and now runs at around 1700rpm, it is the stock fan and has made it much more quiet. Access to the data is great from both windows and Mountain Lion. I did not post this to recomend rushing out to get this disk for a DUO v1 immediately and as mdgm states please use the HCL. But it might encourage you to wait for Netgear as it does look hopeful. I am still a bit uncomfortable with my unsupported disk situation but am not in the warranty period anyway...the double resyncs maybe a concern too. If there are problems perhaps my wife will authorise a "v2" upgrade so not the end of the world, unless I physically trash them. I have listed the SMART stats from disk one, disk two is similar but 2 degrees cooler. Sorry for the naff formatting. My old Samsungs had numbers all over the place, this to the untrained eye looks pretty good (no LCC's). I searched on the lpstats parameter and it seems to be no issue, indeed when I did a volume scan it seemed to reset this parameter. SMART Information for Disk 1 Model: WDC WD20EFRX-68AX9N0 Serial: <REMOVED BY MODERATOR> Firmware: 80.00A80 SMART Attribute Raw Read Error Rate ------------0 Spin Up Time ---------------------0 Start Stop Count -----------------4 Reallocated Sector Count -------0 Seek Error Rate ------------------0 Power On Hours ----------------62 Spin Retry Count -----------------0 Calibration Retry Count ---------0 Power Cycle Count ---------------4 Power-Off Retract Count -------3 Load Cycle Count ----------------0 Temperature Celsius -----------36 Reallocated Event Count --------0 Current Pending Sector ----------0 Offline Uncorrectable ------------0 UDMA CRC Error Count ----------0 Multi Zone Error Rate -----------0 ATA Error Count -----------------0 Extended Attribute Hot-add events ------------------0 Hot-remove events -------------0 Lp stat events ----------------161 Power glitches -------------------0 Hard disk resets ----------------0 Retries ---------------------------0 Repaired sectors ----------------0WD10EADS WD Caviar Green - 1TB >> excessive Load Cycle Count
I have two WD10EADS 1TB drives in my Duo. The first was installed a months ago as Drive 2, mirroring the 500 GB Seagate that came with the Duo. The WD drive seemed to work just fine, so I recently bought a second and installed it as Drive 1. In just a week of use, the newer drive is exhibiting a large and growing number of Load Cycles. After a little research, I found that the WD10EADS drive comes in a number of flavors. The first configuration had 4 platters (each approx 250 GB). A second variant had 3 platters. The latest vintage, which is the kind I just bought, has a pair of 500 GB platters. I am seeing vastly different behavior from the two WD10EADS units, as reported by the Duo's SMART reports. Drive 2: WDC WD10EADS-00L5B1. This is a 3-platter drive, installed in my Duo last month. - power-on hours = 1012 - Load Cycle Count = 670 - Power Cycle Count = 78 Drive 1: WDC WD10EADS-00M2B0. this is the newer 2-platter drive, installed last week. - power-on hours = 74 - Load Cycle Count = 3477 - Power Cycle Count = 10 The LCC value on Drive 1 increases by 2 or 3 every minute or so. I have my Duo configured to spin-down the drives after 10 minutes. Even so, the LCC continues to climb, even when the drives should both be spun down. I've done some web research and found extensive coverage of this issue at QNAP, Synology and Quiet PC Review forums. The root cause appears to be that the WD power-saving 'green' design parks the heads after 8 seconds of inactivity, while the Linux OS tickles the drive every 20 seconds or so, thereby unparking the heads. The Green series of drives are rated by WD for 300K load cycles during the drive's lifetime. Thus, there is some concern that the constant park/unpark operations will wear out the drive prematurely. One customer received back from Western Digital a troubling statement: ...The unit is not recommended for NAS or RAID use, due to its end-user design. But, under normal use, rather than strenuous or highly demanding tasks, there should be not much issue with the unit. Johnny T. Western Digital Service and Support I can't explain why my two WD10EADS drives are behaving differently. I can think of three possibilities: - the two different models have different firmware, and they park/unpark the heads using different algorithms. (note that both my drives have the same 01.00A01 firmware). - the two models are both parking/unparking the same, but are reporting differently through SMART. In other words, my Drive 2 also has large LCC count, but I just don't know it. It's been suggested by some experts that WD deliberately masked the actual operational statistics reported by some of their other drives in order to quell consumer concerns. - my Drive 1 is operating as the Linux boot drive, and is being frequently accessed by the kernel as the kernel goes about its routine tasks. But Drive 2 is merely a RAIDed data disk that does not get repetitive accesses. Detailed discussion and debate on this topic can be found here: http://forum.qnap.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=14273 http://www.silentpcreview.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=51401&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 http://forum.synology.com/enu/viewtopic.php?f=124&t=11682 Based on my observed SMART reports, I feel some caution is warranted re the use of WD10EADS drives in RAIDed ReadyNAS systems. Be aware that all such drives are not created equal: you need to know the full part number to know if you have a 4-platter, 3-platter, or 2-platter unit.ReadyNAS NV+ ate my WD20EZRX (2TB Green)?
Hi guys, I bought two WD20EZRX - 00D8PB0 2TB "Green" drives to fit in my NV+ (v1, I guess - the PCB still says "Infrant"). The WD Green 20EARX model is on the compatibility list, and the EZRX should be equivalent according to the scheme on http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/o ... 001028.pdf (To head off some obvious questions, these are brand-new OEM component drives from a reputable supplier, not discount disks farmed from retail portable HDs. I've also used WD Green in video streaming applications with no problems. ) I did the usual backup of the existing volume, then power down, removed my existing HDs, did a Factory Reset on the NAS (my original firmware used 4k blocksize, so the original volume did too), and inserted one of the disks. After a long initialisation, I got a "Bad disk" error, so I tried the other instead, only to get the same thing. Unfortunately, not only do these disks now not work, but after their trip through the ReadyNAS, they won't even register on my desktop PC's SATA controller. Attempting to use them in a Dell PC results in a spurious "Password Required" message from the BIOS (the EZRX doesn't have a password feature). Mounting the disk in a USB enclosure looks better at first, but it is impossible to partition the disk - the partitioning operation times out. I'm in the process of RMAing the disks, but I'm concerned that all I'll get is another pair of sacrificial WD20EZRX. So, any idea what's going on here, and any ideas on how I can get my disks back if the RMA is rejected?WD30EZRX Any problems ?
Its not on the official compatibility list ofc, but im hoping thats just a matter of time. Tho a confirmation from someone thats actually tried one would be much appreciated. This is for an Ultra4 plus with fresh firmware btw. I'd get the officially approved if possible ofc, but manufacturers change versions faster then they get tested it seems. /RegardsCan WD20EARS run side by side with a WD20EZRX hard drive.
Hi, I am very new here, so I apologise for posting a question that may have already been answered. I have a Netgear ReadyNAS NV+V2 (4bay). At the moment I have 4 WD20EARS Caviar Green hard drives running. I need to buy another hard drive to replace one of them and I am having a lot of trouble getting the same model hard drive here in Australia. Most suppliers stock the WD20EZRX Caviar Green hard drive which I hear is a later model. I am wondering whether this will be a problem or whether it is compatible to run side by side with the WD20EARS hard drives? Thanking you in advanced for your help in this matter.WD20EARS-00MVWB0 WD Caviar Green - 2TB
I'm recently wanting to setup a NAS to use as a backup and media streaming solution, the Netgear ReadyNAS nv+ seems like the right solution for me. Since there's 4-bays i want to put four 2TB drives into it and setup the drives in RAID5, so i ordered two 2TB WD20EARS-00MVWB0 drives from play.com (could only afford two at the time) I've got the drives and was looking at the Netgear ReadyNAS nv+ on amazon uk, was looking at the comments and someone said in their comment that the WD WD20EARS drives aren't the best drives to use and some aren't supported. I've seen a few threads which are mostly old (few years ago) about people not getting the drives to work, then some threads where people have updated the firmware did and factory reset and the drives have worked fine. So basically before i buy the Netgear ReadyNAS nv+, i want to know if the Western Digital WD20EARS-00MVWB0 drives are supported by the Netgear ReadyNAS nv+ and will work in RAID5 without any issues ??? and if they do work, is there any steps i will need to take besides updating the firmware on the NAS ?? Please reply ASAP, as if they are not compatible i will need to return the drives.WD20EARS-00MVWB0 Westerd Digital Cavier Green 2TB
Hi, I just got a Duo V2 and a Western Digital drive. I didn't realize there were two different versions (wished I came here first). The drive worked fine so I ordered another one, not sure what version I'll get. Now when I try to copy large files over I get a 0x80070027 drive full error. All I have to do is hit the retry button and it will continue copying. Everything plays fine off of the Nas so is there any way I can fix this without putting this drive on ebay and getting another one or should I just live with it? I'm using a WIN7 machine through a Linksys 54g router. Thanks. Mark