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DarrenM's avatar
DarrenM
Sr. NETGEAR Moderator
Dec 22, 2017

Firmware V2.1.1.16 auto update

we'll be removing the v2.1.1.16 firmware from the auto update server over the holidays and will resume pushing it in the new year. Firmware will still be available on product support pages for manual update. 

 

http://www.netgear.com/support/product/orbi.aspx

 

Thanks

DarrenM

 

58 Replies

  • Nice for those whose not updated, but can Netgear say anything to those suffering from the update now about any upcoming fixes in the works?
  • DarrenM's avatar
    DarrenM
    Sr. NETGEAR Moderator

    We are aware of the issues and working on fixes I have no ETA on the next firmware release past .16.

     

    DarrenM

    • godspeed's avatar
      godspeed
      Apprentice

      Darren,

       

      Can you tell us what issues the engineering team is aware of and investigating?

       

      Beyond the display errors of devices not showing connected to the satellite, are the engineers aware of and actively investigating the reboot issues that are occuring with a large number of users?

      • atiq332's avatar
        atiq332
        Star

        Known issues please forward these to ORBI TECHNICAL.

        1.....some time orbi satellite shows connected BUT non of devices are on showing on satellite all are showing connected with router.

        2....auto reboot of satellite. and some time its show blue solid or flashinng light.

        3....some time devices are connected but not on system

        4...reboot and change ip address and if ip adress set to 192.168.1.250 will show devices on satellite and  router as well... but its change automatic to 192.168.1.3 and so on and problem start.

    • masonworld's avatar
      masonworld
      Apprentice

      DarrenM wrote:

      We are aware of the issues and working on fixes I have no ETA on the next firmware release past .16.

       

      DarrenM


      Hey DarrenM - Happy New Year.

       

      I know you probably can't commit to a release schedule, but I am curious to hear if your engineering team has been able to replicate any of the issues reported here (or if there is something that we can do to help). 

       

      EDIT:  I see the beta release here now.  Thanks!  https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/OrbiOS-2-1-1/m-p/1476960#M19962

       

      M

  • DarrenM's avatar
    DarrenM
    Sr. NETGEAR Moderator

    yes the reboot and disconnect issues are all being investigated.

     

    DarrenM

    • aaz's avatar
      aaz
      Virtuoso

      DarrenM wrote:

      yes the reboot and disconnect issues are all being investigated.

       

      DarrenM


      Might I suggest you strongly look at the UPNP handling subsystem, I and at least one other person found that to be the cause. Both of us have seen UPNP activity when the reboots would occur. 

       

      I have every setting on except Circle and everything else is stable. I use the Netgear OpenDNS for content protection. I run it as a router not an AP.  In fact I would recommend everyone just try to repeat my settings because this has been the most stable router I've had since my old netgear N600 a long time ago, which was way more stable than my Linksys WRT54G, Apple airport extreme, Dlink AC1200, Asus AC87U, etc... 

    • njweb's avatar
      njweb
      Luminary

      DarrenM wrote:

      yes the reboot and disconnect issues are all being investigated.

       

      DarrenM


      I am not facing any issues yet with 2.1.1.16. That being said, speaking of Auto Update, I think Netgear should allow users to disable automatic firmware updates; instead just send them a notification via the Orbi app and email (e.g.) stating that a new firmware is available with a link to the release notes and let users decide if they want to upgrade based on the benefits of the new firmware.

       

      I realize it is a double-edged sword given important updates like the KRACK patch and MAJOR performance improvements e.g. where auto update ensures everyone gets the update, even people who are not tech savvy and who would not update on their own.

      However, when stability issues come into play (I am not facing any luckily), auto update can be frustrating someime staking a well working system and impacting its connection stability. I have family members using routers who would need help from other family members / friends to download an older version of the firmware and update it for them, so this is especially frustrating in those situations. This is exarcerbated in case where non tech savvy family members live far away.

       

      • JMU1998's avatar
        JMU1998
        Luminary

        njweb you mentioned you are not seeing any issues can you confirm you can see all your devices connected to the base and satellite?  I think  a bug introduced by latest firmware my devices are missing on the list and nothing showing connected to satellite, have factory reset many times reinstalled Firmware,  even tried nvram clean process, issue comes back.  Just curious you are not seeing this while many are and Netgear is aware of this.

    • mastervisa30's avatar
      mastervisa30
      Luminary
      Why netgear cant we get that options to turn off and on auto uppdate,its gonna be easy to downgrade to older firmware in the future,when there is a new firmware who has many bugs,we can turn off uppdate and get older version?options to turn off auto uppdate,if netgear get this options im not sending my system back:)if there is buggy firmware version we can turn of uppdates
  • Retired_Member's avatar
    Retired_Member

    Thanks

    I guess this is good news.  As it may prevent others who are away from home this week, of receiving the update and it disconnects their network.

     

    On the Orbi web GUI...some mention ..."my so and so is NOT listed showing connection".....does that affect it's connectivity?   Does the device still work?  I guess for me...if it works yet fails to show on a GUI list yet it still works, and they are aware, all well.  

    • webminster's avatar
      webminster
      Luminary

      It doesn't mean it isn't connected, at least.  I have all sorts of listing "anomalies", but I know the devices are connected (since the list is wrong, it's hard to trust what the Orbi says in terms of where/how it's connected, though).

       

      For instance:

      * I have a couple of Amcrest cameras that don't show in the router/satellite lists at all.  I know they're connected, I can view them - but since they're not listed, I can't be sure to which unit they connect.

      * My satellite's list is empty again.  The router does show connections to satellite, and those mostly seem plausible...

      * I have a couple of devices connected wirelesssly, that the router list shows as "wired."   Which is impossible, not sure how it's gotten that idea, and disconnecting and reconnecting the client (wireless) isn't changing that.

       

      Appears what they thought was "cosmetic" is more a bad breakdown in its connection accounting code across the board.  2.0.0.76 wasn't great, but 2.1.1.16 fails epically.

       


      Retired_Member wrote:

      On the Orbi web GUI...some mention ..."my so and so is NOT listed showing connection".....does that affect it's connectivity?   Does the device still work?  I guess for me...if it works yet fails to show on a GUI list yet it still works, and they are aware, all well.  


       

      • richlin71's avatar
        richlin71
        Initiate

        for what it's worth, I'm another previously happy Orbi owner who's now incredibly frustrated with Netgear and regretting my purchase. 

         

        if I recall correctly, my wifi started dropping with the old firmware 2.0.0.74, which is why I started checking these forums. Upgrading to 2.1.1.16 didn't help. Downgrading to 2.0.0.74 hasn't helped either. 

         

        It's hard to quantify how often wifi drops bc the logs are so unhelpful, but it's 5-10 times/day that I notice. VERY frustrating!


  • DarrenM wrote:

    we'll be removing the v2.1.1.16 firmware from the auto update server over the holidays and will resume pushing it in the new year. Firmware will still be available on product support pages for manual update. 

     

    http://www.netgear.com/support/product/orbi.aspx

     

    Thanks

    DarrenM

     


    Thanks Netgear for the best Christmas present you could give us.

     

    Hopefully, when auto-update is turned back on in the new year, the NEXT version of firmware will be the one being downloaded.  This new firmware will fix all the problems for everyone!  (After all it is the time of year for hope and answered prayers.)

     

    Merry Christmas

  • Hello,

    I have had a few disconnect issues, but have been more fortunate than others in that regard - but I am glad you are still investigating those issues.

     

    One issue that I would like investigated is the backhaul speed between the RBK50 and the RBS50's.  When I purchased my Orbi setup (one RBK50 and two RBS50's), I was getting transfer speeds of 100MB/s or more between my PC and my Synology.  After I updated the firmware (on the third day - to 2.0.0.74(?)), the speeds have been abysmal. I am lucky to get 5MB/s.  The connection is good between the satellite and router. They are 23 feet away from each other. 

     

    I have tried everything other users have recommended in these forums (turning on/of beamforming, MU-MIMO, fast roaming, daisy-chain topology) to no avail. 

     

    I hope that this is being investigated by the team at Netgear.

     

    Thank you

    • kmichalec's avatar
      kmichalec
      Apprentice

      jvaudio wrote:

      Hello,

      I have had a few disconnect issues, but have been more fortunate than others in that regard - but I am glad you are still investigating those issues.

       

      One issue that I would like investigated is the backhaul speed between the RBK50 and the RBS50's.  When I purchased my Orbi setup (one RBK50 and two RBS50's), I was getting transfer speeds of 100MB/s or more between my PC and my Synology.  After I updated the firmware (on the third day - to 2.0.0.74(?)), the speeds have been abysmal. I am lucky to get 5MB/s.  The connection is good between the satellite and router. They are 23 feet away from each other. 

       

      I have tried everything other users have recommended in these forums (turning on/of beamforming, MU-MIMO, fast roaming, daisy-chain topology) to no avail. 

       

      I hope that this is being investigated by the team at Netgear.

       

      Thank you


      Can you tell which units your PC and your Synology are connected to? What does your setup look like? Are you daisy chaining (R -> S1 -> S2) or wagon wheeling (S1 <- R -> S2) the satellites to the router? Can you turn off the satellites and hook up both devices to the router, and does the connection speed return to normal?

  • Well, apparently it hasn't been removed yet - mine auto-updated at 1:47AM this morning.

    • JMU1998's avatar
      JMU1998
      Luminary

      rhester72 I thought they were going to stop auto push until Firmware was corrected and fixed before re-release or new version

      • rhester72's avatar
        rhester72
        Virtuoso

        JMU1998 wrote:

        rhester72 I thought they were going to stop auto push until Firmware was corrected and fixed before re-release or new version


        Yeah, me too.  :(

    • gsavage's avatar
      gsavage
      Guide

      My system auto-updated to 2.1.1.16 in the wee hours of 12/27, when I was on vacation. The satellites immediately disconnected, taking down my security cameras and other household infrastructure.

       

      WiFi is now unstable. The router truncates my password after the first character ("$") and shuts down WiFi entirely when rebooted.

       

      Bringing satellites into same room for troubleshooting and I can reconnect one but not the other.  The one connected satellite disconnects every few hours.  

       

      I manually rolled back to 2.0.0.74. This corrected the password flaw on the router, but now neither satellite will connect.  

       

      The system was working flawlessly since August until this auto firmware update.  

      • atiq332's avatar
        atiq332
        Star

        Please can you tell me what firmware was in the begining when we first purchased this RBK50 i mean factory default firmware? i wants to downgrade to . actually my speed was 300 mb all over in my home since i upgrade to lastest and latest its become slow slow and slow..