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sonnylax's avatar
Jan 03, 2017

Orbi Speeds Slow After Initial Install

Just got my Orbi (Router & Satellite) WiFi system up and running in AP mode behind my AT&T Uverse/GigaPower Gateway.  I'm paying for a 1 Gigabit connection, but I believe AT&T only guarantees 800 Mbps.

 

When I'm hardwired to my AT&T Gateway via Ethernet Cable (Cat 5e), I see speeds between 400 - 650 Mbps via Speedtest app.

 

When I"m connected to the new Orbi WiFi, I'm only getting speeds of around 40 - 50 Mbps when I'm literally 6 feet away from the Orbi Router.

 

I've updated the Firmware on the Router to the latest version (V 1.4.0.18).  The Satellite firmware is V 1.2.0.6 and gets hung up when you try to update through the OrbiLogin.com.

 

The 2.4GHz channel is "AUTO" and the 5Ghz channel is "48."  Security options is WPA2-PSK (AES).

 

Any other ideas?

31 Replies

  • Do you only see slow speeds over wireless or do you also see slow speeds when hardwired to the Orbi base?  This will help narrow down the possibilities.  Your wireless speed will also be less using 2.4Ghz vs. 5Ghz.  Are you using Apple devices?  Some have reported slowed speed with Apple devices.

     

    What settings have you changed from the defaults?  Port forwarding and modifying QoS can affect speeds (i.e., be sure to keep WMM enabled).  This thread discusses similar speed issues: https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-Wired-Speeds-Unacceptably-Slow-Wifi-Not-Impacted-QoS-Issues/m-p/1194291#M2192.  Doing a factory reset and testing the speeds again before changing any options may also help diagnose what's causing the slowness.

    • sonnylax's avatar
      sonnylax
      Guide

      Not using any Apple devices... Haven't tried hardwiring into the Orbi (Just the adjacent AT&T Gateway)


      Other thing I've noticed is that many of the OrbiLogin.com options are "greyed out" now that I've selected AP mode.  (Can't select QOS, as an example.)

      • Ely's avatar
        Ely
        Luminary

        Can you disable Wi-Fi on your AT&T Uverse/GigaPower Gateway and make it work just as a modem, then use your Orbi as your router instead? this will not solve your problem but it might be a work around.

  • I believe this to be a firmware issue specific to the Orbi since I too am experiencing connectivity/slow response issues.  I'm using a TWC/Spectrum Ubee cable modem which I have configured in bridge mode as I want to be able to manage my network with my Netgear device.  My previous Netgear device was a R7000 router which I had no connectivity issues/drops with prior to replacing with the Orbi.
    I am now testing with the QOS/WMM features disabled to see if I can narrow to these features causing my issues so I'll update again after I've had some time to test but this is disappointing since I've used the Netgear products for many years and like the interface and ease of management which is why I've defaulted my cable modem to bridge mode.

    I hope the issue can be determined and resolved with firmware otherwise I may have to resort back to a different Netgear router model.

    • sdunlap01's avatar
      sdunlap01
      Guide

      So these issues (at least for me) do indeed relate to the QOS/WMM settings.
      I found a WMM setting in my laptop wireless adapter configuration, enabled it and saw some improvement after reenabling the QOS/WMM settings in the Orbi.  Just the fact that I saw differences confirms my connectivity issues are revolved around these features.
      Another beef I have is my 5Ghz capable devices are no longer connecting at 5Ghz but I see that is also a separate issue/forum.

      Netgear, I've been a long time customer, please resolve these issues so we can remain so.  I need my connectivity between my ISP connection and my devices to remain constant and I need my 5Ghz capable devices to be able to connect at 5Ghz (none of them have since switching from my Netgear R7000 to the Orbi).

      • sdunlap01's avatar
        sdunlap01
        Guide

        Enabling the following two features has had a negative impact on my uptime.

        Enable Implicit BEAMFORMING - Boosts WiFi speed, reliability, & range for all mobile devices
        Enable MU-MIMO
        I disabled them again and will now monitor once more but I can tell how well my connectivity (both wired and wireless) is performing based on my security camera outages/disconnects.

        Enabling the above 2 features caused more disconnects than I've seen to date.
        So i'll be disabling them again to retest and will post results at later date

         

  • Just hooked up RBR50 with three RBS50 as I have ethernet connected devices.   The throughput is horrible - general WiFi access through my home is the worst i've ever seen.  Is there a problem hooking up mulitple satellites?   How do you test ORBI to Device speed - and where is the QoS option in latest firmware?  (currently on 2.0.0.74).   I have IPTV devices connected to the satellites and have to reset my system to get any kind of throughput.   Looking for an idea?

    • aaz's avatar
      aaz
      Virtuoso

      talbert99 wrote:

      Just hooked up RBR50 with three RBS50 as I have ethernet connected devices.   The throughput is horrible - general WiFi access through my home is the worst i've ever seen.  Is there a problem hooking up mulitple satellites?   How do you test ORBI to Device speed - and where is the QoS option in latest firmware?  (currently on 2.0.0.74).   I have IPTV devices connected to the satellites and have to reset my system to get any kind of throughput.   Looking for an idea?


      What kind of internet connection do you have?

      What kind of speed do you measure using speedtest.net when wired to the router?

      What kind of speed do you measure using speedtest.net when on Wifi to the Router? When connected through a satellite? 

      How many and what kind of devices do you have on your wireless? Are they 5Ghz? Are any of them 11b?

      Are you running the Orbi as the Router? And is your ISP modem bridged? Or are you NATing through it?

       

      If you are seeing full speed after reseting the Orbi, then chances are that one of your devices on the network is what is causing the problem - you are seeing full speed until the devices reconnects or starts to act up again. 

       

      I'm only running two satellites, but have not seen the issues you mention. I have quite a few camera's and streamig devices. 

      • rgadue's avatar
        rgadue
        Aspirant
        I too have issues with constant reliable speeds. I have Orbi router w 2 satellites. Orbi router installed downstairs in family room, 1 satellite upstairs in loft, 2nd satellite, in garage. Xfinity 1g service. Arris surfboard 3.1 sb8200.
        Devices connected, multiple iPhones and Macs, Android phones and PC laptops. Smart devices, nest, ring, hue, Rachio, etc. Amazon fire TV's, game players.
        Not sure what top speed I should see but highest has been mid 300mpbs upon first install. Now I'm lucky to see 40mbps. I haven't changed any default settings. Xfinity has walked me thru multiple resets on my modem and I've powered cycled Orbi a few times. Sometimes I see increased speeds but shortly drops back down.
        Typically have 32-35 devices connected, 7 hardwired, 4 on router, three on upstairs satellite.
        Sometimes wifi is so bad steaming stops and kids go nuts. Literally woke up by one rug rat at 11pm to tell me Wi-Fi stopped working.
        Xfinity has been zero help and they want me to use their equipment. They are coming out tomorrow too test lines.
        Saw previous past about beam forming and other mu-mimo settings. Both are off for me. Checked firmware and I'm on latest 2.0.0.74.