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jasondunn
Apprentice
Apr 13, 2024
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Anyone else wake up to a dozen failed firmware update emails/alerts for the WAX620s?

I have three WAX620 APs deployed in my home. V10.8.5.7 firmware on all of them. I do not pay the fee to get the app-based service, I manually update the firmware on all of them. I woke up this morning to 12 emails and 12 app alerts, three per AP, all saying the same vague thing. Why exactly would devices that I control and need do manual firmware updates on be pushed a firmware update that failed? This is somewhat concerning to me as I didn't see any communications from Netgear about an emergency firmware they were pushing out to all APs or the like.

 

Failure Reason: An error occurred while updating the firmware.

Failure Reason: The device configuration has failed

 

  • Here is some additional context on this topic. On 30th March, NETGEAR released firmware updates (v10.8.5.7/v9.9.4.7) for our Insight-manageable wireless access points. Following long-term stress testing of this firmware, it was found that access points running this firmware could, under certain conditions, encounter a memory leak. This was dependent on configuration and load on the access point. As result of this memory leak, some affected APs may have unexpectedly rebooted. The firmwares were taken down on 13th April. On the same day, we performed some mitigation activities on the Insight platform to stabilize the affected APs. As a result of this mitigation activity, some Insight accounts, to which the affected APs were registered, may have received some false positive Insight notifications between 07:00 to 08:45 PDT on 13th April. These notifications will have been similar to those received by jasondunn and can be safely ignored. A new firmware is being released today to address this issue. It is recommended to upgrade to this new version as soon as possible.

     

    jasondunn  - are you certain that your APs are not managed by Insight? You can check the management mode by logging on to the admin page and going to Management - Configuration - System - Basic - Management Mode. Please send me a PM if you are unsure.

    RipTWD  - since your APs are running v10.8.5.7, then the unexplained reboot may have been caused by the memory leak described above. When the new firmware releases today, please upgrade as soon as possible. We should still try to understand how your APs got to v10.8.5.7. Did you manually update the APs after March 30th?

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  • I saw that too.  My 4 WAX-615's all self-rebooted at around 10:44 ET this morning.  

  • RennaD's avatar
    RennaD
    NETGEAR Moderator

    Hello jasondunn RipTWD,

     

    If you received the notifications last April 13th around 7:15AM PST to 8:50AM PST then this is expected. On that day, engineering have applied changes through Insight which would help stabilize APs running on latest firmware. As a result you may have received the notification "The device configuration has failed."  and in some cases, "Failure Reason: An error occurred while updating the firmware." Some APs, which has ran into low memory, would have rebooted.

     


    Have a lovely day,
    RennaD
    NETGEAR Team

    • jasondunn's avatar
      jasondunn
      Apprentice

      Renna,

       

      I thought I owned these APs and I could decide when and how firmware updates were applied? What is the circumstance when Netgear decides a firmware update is forced upon an AP?

    • RennaD's avatar
      RennaD
      NETGEAR Moderator

      Hello jasondunn,

       

      What was applied was not a firmware update, but rather an enhancement to APs that are on latest firmware which your APs are on (V10.8.5.7). Are your WAX620 set to Insight Management mode? Can you check if Schedule Firmware Update is enabled on the Insight Portal?


      Have a lovely day,
      RennaD
      NETGEAR Team

  • BrendanM's avatar
    BrendanM
    NETGEAR Expert

    Here is some additional context on this topic. On 30th March, NETGEAR released firmware updates (v10.8.5.7/v9.9.4.7) for our Insight-manageable wireless access points. Following long-term stress testing of this firmware, it was found that access points running this firmware could, under certain conditions, encounter a memory leak. This was dependent on configuration and load on the access point. As result of this memory leak, some affected APs may have unexpectedly rebooted. The firmwares were taken down on 13th April. On the same day, we performed some mitigation activities on the Insight platform to stabilize the affected APs. As a result of this mitigation activity, some Insight accounts, to which the affected APs were registered, may have received some false positive Insight notifications between 07:00 to 08:45 PDT on 13th April. These notifications will have been similar to those received by jasondunn and can be safely ignored. A new firmware is being released today to address this issue. It is recommended to upgrade to this new version as soon as possible.

     

    jasondunn  - are you certain that your APs are not managed by Insight? You can check the management mode by logging on to the admin page and going to Management - Configuration - System - Basic - Management Mode. Please send me a PM if you are unsure.

    RipTWD  - since your APs are running v10.8.5.7, then the unexplained reboot may have been caused by the memory leak described above. When the new firmware releases today, please upgrade as soon as possible. We should still try to understand how your APs got to v10.8.5.7. Did you manually update the APs after March 30th?

    • schumaku's avatar
      schumaku
      Guru - Experienced User

      BrendanM wrote:

      ....
      RipTWD  - since your APs are running v10.8.5.7, then the unexplained reboot may have been caused by the memory leak described above. When the new firmware releases today, please upgrade as soon as possible. We should still try to understand how your APs got to v10.8.5.7. Did you manually update the APs after March 30th?


      v10.8.5.7 was certainly made available by Insight on 30 March 2024, we took that plunge, too.

       

       

      Same for all 615, 620, 625, 630E, ... in our inventory. 

       

      Greetings to Ireland!

    • jasondunn's avatar
      jasondunn
      Apprentice

      Ok, this is clear now. Yes I updated all three APs myself with the 10.8.5.7 firmware a couple of weeks ago. What’s not clear is why I received an email this morning telling me that 10.8.6.3 is available but when I log into my AP running 10.8.5.7 and force a firmware check it says there’s no new firmware available. 🫤

       

      Do the emails go out before the firmware is actually available?

      • BrendanM's avatar
        BrendanM
        NETGEAR Expert

        Hi jasondunn - as of writing this, the firmware has been posted to the NETGEAR support site and has also been made available for installation through Insight (I suspect you received the Insight notification). It will become available via the 'Check for upgrade' button in the local admin page of the AP very soon.

    • RipTWD's avatar
      RipTWD
      Tutor

      >> Following long-term stress testing of this firmware, it was found that access points running this firmware could, under certain conditions, encounter a memory leak. This was dependent on configuration and load on the access point. As result of this memory leak, some affected APs may have unexpectedly rebooted. 

       

      All four, at the same time?  I applaud myself on how perfectly I load balanced my access points 🙂

       

      I'll update this weekend & keep an eye on things.

       

      Thanks

       

       

      • jasondunn's avatar
        jasondunn
        Apprentice

        I'm getting emails urging me to update the firmware, yet just a few minutes ago I checked again and my AP will not see a newer firmware. I have one of my three APs still under the trial of Insight cloud management, so I tried from the app, and that failed with a very "There was an error" message. Why would Netgear send communications to customers urging them to update but not have the update available? This is quite frustrating.

         

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