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minetpro
Oct 25, 2018Aspirant
WAC 730 and Ensemble Mode, cannot join third AP when without LAN Connection
Hello there, I'm thinking of someone having the same Problem as we have. I shortly explain the Situation: We own a Internet Router which is connected to a netgear Poe-Switch. On the Poe Switch 2 LAN ...
- Oct 26, 2018
RaghuHR wrote:
Bridging is another soultion can provide you extension your network to different floor or building.
This is what was configured in my understanding, as there is no Extender mode on the WAC730. I don't thingk the OP was so blue-eyed that it works without a configured wireless bridge. But then we're at the same point - in my L2 understanding, the wireless bridge would make another segment, like the LAN segment on the detached WAC wold create a third L2 segment.
Do you expect that multiple WAC730 in wired and bridged config would allow to operate as a single Ensemble?
schumaku
Oct 25, 2018Guru - Experienced User
So the point is if a WAC 730 can be member of an Ensemble if connected as a wireless bridge? I fear this is not possible, because of the wireless bridge does form it's own bridged segment - see the WAC720/730 User Manual p.87 ff:
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Set Up, Manage, and Monitor Ensembles
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An ensemble can be formed between two more APs if the following conditions are met:
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. • The APs are connected on the same bridged segment.
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Wish I would be wrong ... RaghuHR?
minetpro
Oct 25, 2018Aspirant
schumaku
thank you for your Reply
this would mean we cannot "Ensemble" the three AP's with the Router (i.e. Fritzbox 6490 ).
So this would only be possible with a netgear WLAN Controller ?
- schumakuOct 25, 2018Guru - Experienced User
minetpro wrote:
schumaku thank you for your Reply this would mean we cannot "Ensemble" the three AP's with the Router (i.e. Fritzbox 6490 ). So this would only be possible with a netgear WLAN Controller ?Huh, where did I said anything about a controller?
There can be no Ensemble with the router, the Ensemble can just span multiple WAC730 (same model), and just on the very same bridge segment what can be the the switched LAN of the Fritzbox of course, too.
In my networking world (and I can be wrong) the switched LAN and the wireless bridge make up two different segments. That's the point. Let's see if RaghuHR will confirm that it should be possible to operate the Ensemble with the non-hardwired WAC 730.
What hit my eyes - is it possible the WAC 730 firmware is slightly aged? Consider an update.
- RaghuHROct 25, 2018NETGEAR Expert
Thanks minetpro for sharing your network diagram. Ensemble works if all APs are connected and reachable. If you remove a cable of 3rd AP then it will loose the connectivity to the rest of the APs. Ensemble works when all APs are connected via in the same LAN segment.
So in your case you are removing the LAN cable and obviously third AP will not be part of ensemble. Only those two APs will be in ensemble mode. This is expected behaviour.
Thanks,
Raghu
- minetproOct 26, 2018Aspirant
thank you for your answers,
ok, I understand. So do you both think there is no way to bring the third WAC 730 into the Ensemble Mode ( even not with bridging ). We implemented this solution for a customer with a hotel. In the base floor there ist the Fritzbox, in the first and second floor there are the two 'cabled" WAC's in Ensemble Mode. Fritzbox and WAC's with the same SSID. In the last floor we have no lan-cabling possibility. Maybe a solution with the bridging options ?
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