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51Alan's avatar
51Alan
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Mar 03, 2021
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RBK753 - won't find updated firmware

My RBK753 system is running firmware 3.2.16.22.  According to the Netgear website the latest firmware version is 3.2.17.12, and it was released in late January.  However, when I check for firmware updates on the Orbi app, or by logging in to the router as administrator, I get the message that there is no new firmware available.  Why would that be?

  • It's expected that most Orbi systems will not automatically detect the new firmware release soon aftert it's announced and posted for manual download.  For most customers it's okay and they don't need to update right away.  Making these new releases available on the support website supports anyone who does need the latest fixes or who wants to upgrade as soon as possible.

     

    It is normal for companies to gradually update their installed customers with new firmware or software versions.  Mobile app vendors do the same each time they make a new app version available in the app store.

     

    This gradual rollout policy is to reduce risk, e.g., if there is some unexpected issue with the new firmware they want to minimize the set of customers negatively impacted by the bug.  By gradually rolling out new firmware releases and monitoring customer-reported issues, they can halt the rollout as soon as a small number of customers begin reporting issues.  They can also accelerate the rollout as more customers use the new firmware but do not report problems.  The gradual rollout period might be over several weeks or multiple months.

     

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  • It's expected that most Orbi systems will not automatically detect the new firmware release soon aftert it's announced and posted for manual download.  For most customers it's okay and they don't need to update right away.  Making these new releases available on the support website supports anyone who does need the latest fixes or who wants to upgrade as soon as possible.

     

    It is normal for companies to gradually update their installed customers with new firmware or software versions.  Mobile app vendors do the same each time they make a new app version available in the app store.

     

    This gradual rollout policy is to reduce risk, e.g., if there is some unexpected issue with the new firmware they want to minimize the set of customers negatively impacted by the bug.  By gradually rolling out new firmware releases and monitoring customer-reported issues, they can halt the rollout as soon as a small number of customers begin reporting issues.  They can also accelerate the rollout as more customers use the new firmware but do not report problems.  The gradual rollout period might be over several weeks or multiple months.

     

    • vajim's avatar
      vajim
      Master

      Mikey94025 wrote:

      It's expected that most Orbi systems will not automatically detect the new firmware release soon aftert it's announced and posted for manual download.  For most customers it's okay and they don't need to update right away.  Making these new releases available on the support website supports anyone who does need the latest fixes or who wants to upgrade as soon as possible.

       

      It is normal for companies to gradually update their installed customers with new firmware or software versions.  Mobile app vendors do the same each time they make a new app version available in the app store.

       

      This gradual rollout policy is to reduce risk, e.g., if there is some unexpected issue with the new firmware they want to minimize the set of customers negatively impacted by the bug.  By gradually rolling out new firmware releases and monitoring customer-reported issues, they can halt the rollout as soon as a small number of customers begin reporting issues.  They can also accelerate the rollout as more customers use the new firmware but do not report problems.  The gradual rollout period might be over several weeks or multiple months.

       


      Nice concept with what you describe (I hope you got this from Netgear themselves).  As much as I agree with the limited roll out in the case of a bug, then going forward what does that do to the version numbering if revisions are needed.  Another aspect of the limited roll out is when you have gurus in here that post new firmware updates are available thus advertisting its use.  These would be people who have 100s if not 1000s of post in these forums and are constantly pushing eveyone to update their firmware as soon as it becomes available.

       

      One final thought..."automatic detection of the new firmware release" is NOT the same as auto-push where the user has no involvement, the firmware is pushed automatically pushed.  Either way when you think about all of the ways firmware can be updated the risk reduction is nearly eliminated.  

  • I think you folks are mistaken in that when checking for firmware with an AX router it just says firmware check error. They all say that. It doesn’t work. Regardless the length of time after the release of new firmware.

    I made a separate post simply asking the question if you have a router that doesn’t say that or you’ve been able to update the firmware post here. Please participate if this applies to you.
    • FURRYe38's avatar
      FURRYe38
      Guru

      Mine doesn't say that:

      No Check Error seen here. Also there is nothing new so "No New Firmware Available" will be reported. Of course. 

      • vajim's avatar
        vajim
        Master

        FURRYe38 wrote:

        Mine doesn't say that:

        No Check Error seen here. Also there is nothing new so "No New Firmware Available" will be reported. Of course. 

         

        and if SOME say "mine doesn't say that",...it must be true


         

    • bullm00n's avatar
      bullm00n
      Virtuoso

      Rawcus wrote:
      I think you folks are mistaken in that when checking for firmware with an AX router it just says firmware check error. They all say that. It doesn’t work. Regardless the length of time after the release of new firmware.

      I made a separate post simply asking the question if you have a router that doesn’t say that or you’ve been able to update the firmware post here. Please participate if this applies to you.

      MY old RBR50 found the firmware updates and notified me about them.  And My RBR850 did the same for one update when I first got it.  This latest version of firmware, I was not notified, but found it through the forums and did a manual update.  I have never seen "firmware check error" that I recall.  I have never had an RBK753 set, but certainly the firmware updates work for similar ORBI devices for at least some users.  If it is not working for you and indicating an error, there's likely some other cause - something blocking the check, a browser issue, etc.

      This is what I see when I check now...

      Status:
        Model Name Device Name Current Firmware Version Status
      RouterRBR850RBR850V3.2.17.12No New Firmware Available
      SatelliteRBS850Orbi Satellite-1V3.2.17.12No New Firmware Available




      • Rawcus's avatar
        Rawcus
        Tutor
        Thank you for posting what looks like a paste of the website automatic process. Please attempt to do so with the Netgear phone app and let us know how it goes. Thanks in advance.
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