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Aug 13, 2019Tutor
Rax80 smart connect issue wifi dropping
Ive been having issues with my RAX80 since purchasing it , if i leave the router with the seperate bands (2.4ghz &5ghz) it runs fine but once i activate smartconnect all i get is intermittent connection all the devices connected wirelessly disconnect and reconnect randomly .
If anyone else has had this issue and has found a way to fix it i would greatly appreciate it .
If anyone else has had this issue and has found a way to fix it i would greatly appreciate it .
206 Replies
- digitsnbitsApprentice
Hi All,
I have a RAX80 that doesn't have most of the problems all of you are experiencing but it does have quite a few problems including smart connect not working.
Just want to say after some experiments and a couple of purchases there are AX routers out there that have all the features like smart connect, solid AX WiFi, good range working flawlessly.
Funny thing is so far the best I've run across is actually one of the cheapest AX routers available.
AX3000 similar to AX4, not quite as fast as the RAX80 but very close and a whopping $129 at Walmart. If these guys can do it it's hard to justify Netgear charging top tier prices for hardware that just doesn't work as it should.
- WhixsonAspirantRax120 with frequent dropouts on my iPhones. Running SmartWifi with latest firmware.
I tweeted netgearhelp about the issues I was experiencing with having to power-cycle the router several times a day and the absolutely atrocious support I initially received. In sing-song voice: "Sir, we will surely update your support case with all of the information you have provided us, and will refund you the money if the RMA doesn't work out." And then they offered the RMA and closed the case. Brilliant.
So, now after their twitter help account intervened, it's at a level 2 support center and has gained some traction, at least it has stayed open and they are gathering information like the log files and config settings on the router to (hopefully) forward to their engineering team. Someone had said there is a debug page I was unaware of. So, if you go to your router 192.168.1.1/debug.htm you can actually download a debug logfile from the router. Even if you haven't enabled "Start Debug Log Capture when boot up" it still will save off a zipfile "Debug_log.zip" when you press the button "Save Debug Log". I started going through and there was quite a treasure trove (for someone familiar with debugging embedded systems) of kernel panicks, stack traces, watchdog timers being hit, locked up processes, some issues around the Broadcom chip, etc etc. I think there is enough information available that if the right person on their team looks at it then they could resolve the issue.
They just need to get past the first phase of debugging:
Phase 1: DENIAL
:-D cheers
- GabboCHApprenticeI've been providing debug logs of all of my issues for a week & so far the only response is we need more logs & details about the problems...
There's is no way Netgear don't know there is an issue given the number of problems with the RAX family reported on these forums.
I'm guessing the complete radio silence is not a good sign....- Yep. Delay delay delay until you can’t return it. I think our only remedy is a class action against this **bleep** company who doesn’t give a **bleep** about their customers. I am going to drop all of my Netgear stuff including older switches that work fine. Can’t support a garbage company who has no answers in 6 months. Bet they release new products and the. Will stop supporting this junk.
So it's been about 3 full days without any network drops from my RAX80. I'm still on V1.0.1.62_1.0.26 firmware.
I'll be running it as an AP for now, at least another couple of weeks. Then maybe move it back to being my sole LAN/WAN router if it doesn't show any issues.
I don't use the smart whatever wifi combo. I'm sure it's nice if it worked but, I'm fine with using 2 separte SSID's as that is how I have been setup for years. I just need a stable connection, and the added speed WiFi 6 brings. Plus the coverage as well.
As far as what I did to get it "working". I did a factory reset (backed up my settings first of course). Then did the firmware downgrade to .62 as per supports instructions. Left the unit as an AP only device.
- TunedM52Aspirant
Another extremely unsatisfied netgear router owner. I went through two different RAX80's, all exhibiting the same WiFi dropping issues that everyone here is reporting. I exchanged it for a RAX120 which is slightly more stable, but still needs to be rebooted every couple hours because clients will not connect.
Seriously netgear, this is acceptable? This RAX120 pile of junk is going back to best buy tomorrow morning. Going back to an apple airport extreme 6th generation that literally never dropped a WiFi connection since I got it in 2013. Maybe I'll try out ASUS. Ridiculous that a top end product is this unreliable.
- I’ve decided I’m going with the Uniquiti Amplifi Alien which is wifi6 mesh. Getting good reviews and on Qualcomm chip. Ul and dl OFDMA
- digitsnbitsApprentice
Clibert wrote:
I’ve decided I’m going with the Uniquiti Amplifi Alien which is wifi6 mesh. Getting good reviews and on Qualcomm chip. Ul and dl OFDMA
No wireless backhaul for a mesh system.No 160 MHz wide band support.
Theres better out there for cheaper.
- NeerajShAspirant
I am facing the same issue from the last 2 and half months. The customer support team tried everything and they made me expert in changing the channels, upgrading/downgrading the firmware, etc. Finally, they told me that they would replace the device with another one. However, I checked on the internet regarding the same that Netgear is returning the refurbished/repaired/old devices if RMA. I purchased a new one and don't want a refurbished unit. So, I decided to keep my faulty router with me. I am so proud of you Netgear.
This is my first and last router with Netgear. I promise, even if you fix the issue in the furture, I will never purchase any Netgear device in my life.
- Its a never ending nightmare a waste of valuable time and nearly £300. I just dont understand whats going on. Was the software outsourced and thats why Netgear are so slow to react if at all.
What can be done to get a globle solution.- xjnApprentice
Binstead5 wrote:
Its a never ending nightmare a waste of valuable time and nearly £300. I just dont understand whats going on. Was the software outsourced and thats why Netgear are so slow to react if at all.
What can be done to get a globle solution.I read on another forum firmware development was outsourced to a company called Delta Networks... not sure if true or not but would not be surprised.
- NullByteMeAspirant
Well Friends, there is an issue with these routers from either a Hardware standpoint, or in my opinion a Firmware issue. I tried my first RAX 35, wired and wireless speeds were fantastic, but starting day 2 wired and wireless devices across both frequencies were lost. Attempted channel transmission changes at Netgear supports urgence, on both 2.4 & 5 GHz, as well as well as lowering MTU to 1492 from 1500.... No change. I Just received a replacement direct from Netgear yesterday ( original ordered from Walmart on Black Friday, hence the purchase, half price ) the new one is doing the same thing, same issues. Once a day, internet is lost. Strangely it remained today on two devices running 2.4 GHz wifi, as well as several security cams on same freq.... but hardwired D.T. no joy. ( a variable I experianced on the first router as well) Now I didnt retain the original firmware that came on the unit, ver. (V1.0.2.48_1.0.1)I upgraded to the only available Firmware available V1.0.3.62_1.0.1.... and problems are back.... wish I would've used the original just to test..... Im gonna give this a few more days, hoping maybe the techs will release a new firmware to resolve this.... if not Im going back to my old Asus AC 68u workhorse... Im an IT professional, so Im not a layman on these matters, but the last thing I want is calls during the day from the Mrs. about wifi being down, or having to trouble shoot networking issues when I get home. A power cycle of the router resolves the issue, but again its replicating daily. Has Anyone not upgraded the factory shipped firmware using these routers? And possibly not had these issues?? As a side note, Ive just replaced my modem with a DOCSIS 3.1 thinking that was the original culprit.... wrong. Arrrrrrgh!!
- NullByteMeAspirant
hate to reply to my own post, but checking logs noticed this... [DoS attack:ACK Scan] from source: 192.168.1.12, port 63433, Thu,Jan 23,2020 18:36:40
several instances seen... However I assumed this a possibility initially, and Ive monitored for days with wireshark and Kali through airodump to confirm and CANNOT verify this log.... No trace seen in my recon, only seen this in the logs.... plus DOS would not effect my hardwired device - and would knock out all wireless on one or possibly both frequencies.... intermittent loss is strange... can be done but doubtful knowing the surrounding neighbors and assuming their "tech" savvyness... Very fluent in pentesting personally, and Cannot verify this so im not sure of its validity.... WTF netgear. Are these units compromised from factory?
- vjaychowdharyAspirantHey, I am in India and bought this router at unbelievably high price of ₹28000. The idea was to make my online experience better. I use skype for video calling very frequently. I was looking for a stable experience. But, I still have to connect directly to my modem to get the calls working. I am on 250mbps connection. It works perfectly when I connect my laptop directly to modem. But the router speeds fluctuate too much and too frequently. This feels like getting cheated. Need a solution or refund.
We all wish they would fix this already. It's rediculous. I'be been fairly stable for weeks. Only 1 or 2 reboots in the last 2 months. I'm not touching the firmware on this thing, and since it is my AP only device. I think I can live with the firmware it is on for some time.
Most likely, I will update the firmware in the summer. Do a complete wipe of the unit (factory reset) and then udpate the firmware by downloading the file manually, and updating it locally to the latest (at the time) version. Letting it do the update itself seems to be at least half the issue why it stops working properly.
- bkowkabanyAspirant
I just purchased in Feb 2020 and am having the same problem. If I use the SmartConnect to combine 2.4 and 5 g I get constant dropping of the wifi signal. This has apparently been a known problem for a year but Netgear has not corrected the issue yet. When can we expect a fix?
My firmware is V1.0.1.12_1.0.41
This feature is one of the reasons I bought this router. Please fix it or refund the hardware (I am still within my return period). I would like this to work rather than return the product.
- GabboCHApprenticeIf you are in the refund period just take it back.
As you mention, these issues have been going on almost a year & so far there's not even been one attempt to fix them.
You can see how many people have similar problems from the forum & compare it with constructive replies from Netgear in the same threads.- bkowkabanyAspirant
Thanks, it's on its way back. Anyone have recommendations for a comparable router that works? Anything other than Netgear?
- hamedafAspirant
I am having the same issue. I just bought this router and it keeps disconnecting my devices multiple times a day. Are there logs I can read to check whats going on with the router?
- bkowkabanyAspirant
Contact support. They helped me with settings and I have not experienced any dropping since.
- hamedafAspirant
well, here is the issue. I bought it used, so when registering it, I cant. It says its registered to someone else, thus, I can't request support. What hell do I live in?
- WarmanncAspirantHaving the exact same issue with my R7450
- gg15GuideAccess Point (AP) mode is useless. This is generating all the issues. Change to router mode and all the issues went away for me. Even if the recommended netgear mode says that you shouldn’t if the TV receiver is before and all that. Change to router mode. If after that you still have a problem i recommend you get the X6 router which is AC. This AX8 router has a bit more coverage than the X6 but not enough to be a $100 difference.