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gmangi
Jan 31, 2021Guide
False advertising
I purchased a brand new c7000 for $170 through amazon. Upon recieving the NEW router and modem, when attempting to register the device, it was already registered under another use! They had to verify...
michaelkenward
Feb 01, 2021Guru - Experienced User
gmangi wrote:
Upon recieving the NEW router and modem, when attempting to register the device, it was already registered under another use!
This happens regularly and has nothing to do with second-hand stuff. It seems to be something that happens at Amazon. Things seem to leave the warehouse with registration issues.
For human intervention, try this:
NETGEAR Product Registration FAQ | Answer | NETGEAR Support
But you shouldn't need it.
gmangi wrote:
Even further when I finally got the "New" device under my account, I couldn't get past the previous owner's security questions that had already been set up!
There is a bug in Netgear's implementation of password recovery on some devices. You can get locked into a closed loop.
If password recovery is enabled, but you have not set the answers to the questions, it keeps sending you back to the beginning of the process. If you haven't already given the thing your personal answers, they are not in its memory and it has no way of knowing if they are correct.
This bit is baffling:
gmangi wrote:
Spent over 3 hours on the phone with netgear with being put on hold for 30 minutes twice. I even had to call a second time after the first person I first spoke with said they would call back if we got disconnected. They never did. Then when they said they were going to escalalte the issue, they wouldn't get back to me for 3 hours.
You don't need to spend a nanosecond on line to find the answer.
Even if they exist, a factory reset will instantly eliminate any old password and security questions.
How do I perform a factory reset on my NETGEAR router? | Answer | NETGEAR Support
Any support person would know that instantly. It is the first thing anyone will advise.
For more help, visit the support pages:
Support | NETGEAR
Check the section in the manual Factory Settings.
You might get more help, and find earlier questions and answers about your hardware, in the appropriate section for your device. That's probably here:
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gmangi
Feb 01, 2021Guide
michaelkenward
1. Amazon claims it is a netgear problem and they don’t open packages direct from their suppliers
2. As I said, netgear confirmed that it was registered to another user previously and yes, I had no option to set my own security questions. It seems with these 2 factors that the only logical conclusion is that I am in fact not the first user and I bought this new.
3. I did a factory reset, or hit the manual reset button on the router if that’s what you’re referring to as a hard reset, and it did not resolve the issue.
It was either netgear or Amazon, but someone screwed up, an Amazon says it wasn’t them, so???
1. Amazon claims it is a netgear problem and they don’t open packages direct from their suppliers
2. As I said, netgear confirmed that it was registered to another user previously and yes, I had no option to set my own security questions. It seems with these 2 factors that the only logical conclusion is that I am in fact not the first user and I bought this new.
3. I did a factory reset, or hit the manual reset button on the router if that’s what you’re referring to as a hard reset, and it did not resolve the issue.
It was either netgear or Amazon, but someone screwed up, an Amazon says it wasn’t them, so???
- schumakuFeb 01, 2021Guru - Experienced User
gmangi wrote:
michaelkenward2. As I said, netgear confirmed that it was registered to another user previously and yes, I had no option to set my own security questions. It seems with these 2 factors that the only logical conclusion is that I am in fact not the first user and I bought this new.
You fighting a ghost. Far to many complete factory new (and factory reset devices) Netgear products ask for answers to security questions even if there was never set one after some retries of the default password..
- gmangiFeb 01, 2021GuideWell then you can tell me the name of my eldest sister (that I don’t have) and my youngest brother (that I don’t have), and that’ll fix it.
- schumakuFeb 01, 2021Guru - Experienced User
Restart the device (power) and access again - it will ask you for the admin username (alas "admin") and password again. Default password is printed on the label - best guess it's "password".
As I said - after a number of password failures, many models will spill out hard coded password recovery questiions, even if never set. A long time design flaw. I own several Netgear devices (different from your C7000) behaving the very same way if intentionally (or by error) mistypig the password several times. And I have -never- set configured any password recovery questions.
Beyond me Netgear support was not able to handle this simple support request...
- michaelkenwardFeb 01, 2021Guru - Experienced User
gmangi wrote:
michaelkenward
1. Amazon claims it is a netgear problem and they don’t open packages direct from their suppliersWhy have I seen similar reports of Amazon supplied stuff like this before?
Was your box still shrink wrapped?
gmangi wrote:
2. As I said, netgear confirmed that it was registered to another user previously ...How did Netgear confirm that? By phone? (It doesn't do phone support.) The Netgear website is not a good guide. That's where things go wrong.
I provided a link to the FAQ on how to deal with that.
(Hint, registering doesn't actually do much that isn't covered by the law.)
If Netgear did confirm it, that suggests an Amazon issue.
Your retail contract is with Amazon, not Netgear. If you don't like what you received, send it back to Amazon.
gmangi wrote:
3. I did a factory reset, or hit the manual reset button on the router if that’s what you’re referring to as a hard reset, and it did not resolve the issue.I am referring to the link I provided.
How do I perform a factory reset on my NETGEAR router? | Answer | NETGEAR Support
What do you mean by "it did not resolve the issue"? Registering the thing? Getting it to work?
What did you do and what happened?
You refer to "not being able to register". Can you get the modem/router to work?
If not, what happens when you try?
I'm afraid "It did not work" answers don't help to diagnose what went on at your end. We need a step by step description of what you did and what happened.