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sweetgerald's avatar
sweetgerald
Aspirant
Sep 21, 2022

RBR750 router with CM1200 modem - unpredictable and intermittent network speed drops

Hi

Posting this here because I'm at a loss for where to go next. For period of 6 weeks I've experienced network issues where download speeds will drop to single digit Mbps or less. Sometimes completely 0 down. Symptoms are usually that some streaming service is buffering or my work laptop starts spinning on a page, or slack messaging or emails cannot send or receive. When I've noticed this, I quickly hit a speed test (fast dot com, or speakeasy speed test usually) which confirms single digit speeds... briefly, but then sometimes within seconds or a minute or two (after doing a couple speed tests), the wifi speed is then reading several hundred down again.

 

I've also done speed tests within the router admin interface. A couple times, it has shown a message indicating it couldn't receive anything from the modem, or something to that effect. 

 

Xfinity is my ISP. I pay for 900Mbps down, 20 up. (The upload speed never seems to be affected at least via speed test).

Orbi RBR750 router with 1 satellite, firmware version V4.6.9.11_2.3.5

Nighthawk CM1200 modem (I don't know how to check firmware version of this)

Have had this configuration for almost 8 months with no issue, before this has started happening for the past 6 weeks.

 

I've had Xfinity out twice. First time, the tech reconfigured some cabling outdoors after detecting "interference". Second time, the tech reconfigured some cabling indoors after detecting "interference". Both times, after a period of prolonged disconnect while they were working on the cabling, the network was stable as expected for days, and in the second case, a couple weeks. Now I'm noticing it again. Xfinity support this time detected no signal issues from their remote testing, and suggested the modem needs a firmware update, and doesn't want to send a tech out again. Per the NetGear site (and confirmed, by calling NetGear support) that Xfinity is supposed to manage firmware updates for this modem. Is that correct? I informed the representative as such, and his response was to ask NetGear support because "they'll know what to do." I don't want to necessarily pay for a NetGear technical support contract until I have exhausted all other options, or I'm convinced they'll actually be able to help. The rep I spoke with from NetGear had me look at the lights on the modem as a way of determining if the hardware was working properly. Surprise, it was, according to green lights.

 

I've made sure the modem is connected directly to wall power, just in case there was a faulty power supply issue in the surge protector I had been using for 8 months without issue. The router is still plugged into a power strip, if that matters. I'm beginning to wonder if there is indeed an issue with the modem. 

 

Thanks

G

 

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  • I should note, I'm not exactly well versed in networking and configuration. I know enough that I can work my way around what is needed if anyone can provide some guidance. 

     

    Not sure if I put this in the first post, but I have noticed the worst of network degradation later in the evening (after 10:00pm EST) when on more than one occasion I could not use the Xbox (hard wired to the router) online and another where Netflix (streaming on the TV via wifi) was constantly stopping to buffer. 

     

    Those are the worst cases of this. I work from home, so constantly on the network. During the day I'll see periodic drops in speed, sometimes as long as 5-10 minutes. Sometimes just 10-15 seconds. 

     

    No pattern. No predictability.

  • FURRYe38's avatar
    FURRYe38
    Guru - Experienced User

    Modem:

    Please post a copy and paste of the modems connection status and event log page.
    https://kb.netgear.com/30007/How-do-I-obtain-the-cable-connection-information-from-a-NETGEAR-cable-modem-modem-router
    https://kb.netgear.com/30008/How-do-I-view-or-clear-the-event-logs-on-my-NETGEAR-cable-modem-or-modem-router

     

    Be sure your using a good quality LAN cable between the modem and router. CAT6 is recommended. 

    Be sure there are no coax cable line splitters in the between the modem and ISP service box. 
    Be sure your using good quality RG6 coax cable up to the modem. 
    Be sure to power OFF the modem for 1 minute then back ON.
    https://community.netgear.com/t5/Cable-Modems-Routers/General-info-and-Troubleshooting-for-Cable-Modems/m-p/1530376#M12853
    https://kb.netgear.com/24311/Power-level-guidelines-for-a-NETGEAR-cable-modem-router?article=24311
    https://www.duckware.com/tech/solving-intermittent-cable-modem-issues.html

     

    Orbi:

    Be sure your using a good quality LAN cable between the modem and router. CAT6 is recommended. 

     

    What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
    What is the distance between the router and 📡 satellite(s)? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR and RBS📡 to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.
    https://kb.netgear.com/31029/Where-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite 📡
    https://kb.netgear.com/000061709/Where-should-I-place-the-Mesh-WiFi-satellite-of-my-Nighthawk-Mesh-WiFi-6-and-Tri-band-Mesh-WiFi-6-products 📡

     

    What channels are you using? Auto? Try Auto and 48 on 5Ghz. Or try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and 40 to 48 channel on 5Ghz.
    Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?

     

    Has a power off for 1 minute then back ON with the ISP modem and router been performed since last update?
    Be sure to restart your network in this sequence:
    Turn off and unplug modem.
    Turn off router and computers.
    Plug in and turn on modem. Wait 2 minutes for it to connect.
    Turn on the router and wait 2 minutes for it to connect.
    Turn on computers and rest of network.

     

    Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last FW update? 

     

    I just had my CM1200 online for a few weeks up until last weekend with my 8 series system. Smooth operation between these two. 

     

     

    • sweetgerald's avatar
      sweetgerald
      Aspirant

      Cable Connection:

      Frequency start Value
      This field below allows you to modify the frequency the cable modem start with its scan during initialization and registration. Enter the new start frequency and restart the cable modem for it to take effect.
      Starting Frequency
       

      Startup Procedure

      ProcedureStatusComment
      Acquire Downstream Channel423000000 HzLocked
      Connectivity StateOKOperational
      Boot StateOKOperational
      SecurityEnabledBPI+
      IP Provisioning ModeHonor MDDhonorMdd(4)
       

      Downstream Bonded Channels

      ChannelLock StatusModulationChannel IDFrequencyPowerSNRCorrectablesUncorrectables
      1LockedQAM2564423000000 Hz1.6 dBmV43.5 dB00
      2LockedQAM2561405000000 Hz2.5 dBmV44 dB00
      3LockedQAM2562411000000 Hz2.4 dBmV43.8 dB00
      4LockedQAM2563417000000 Hz2 dBmV43.7 dB00
      5LockedQAM2565429000000 Hz1.4 dBmV43.3 dB10
      6LockedQAM2566435000000 Hz1.2 dBmV43.2 dB20
      7LockedQAM2567441000000 Hz1 dBmV43.1 dB10
      8LockedQAM2568447000000 Hz1 dBmV43.1 dB20
      9LockedQAM2569453000000 Hz1.1 dBmV43.1 dB00
      10LockedQAM25610459000000 Hz1.1 dBmV43.1 dB00
      11LockedQAM25611465000000 Hz1.1 dBmV43 dB00
      12LockedQAM25612471000000 Hz1.1 dBmV43 dB00
      13LockedQAM25613477000000 Hz1 dBmV42.9 dB00
      14LockedQAM25614483000000 Hz0.9 dBmV42.9 dB10
      15LockedQAM25615489000000 Hz1 dBmV42.8 dB20
      16LockedQAM25616495000000 Hz0.9 dBmV42.8 dB20
      17LockedQAM25617507000000 Hz0.6 dBmV42.5 dB20
      18LockedQAM25618513000000 Hz0.5 dBmV42.5 dB10
      19LockedQAM25619519000000 Hz0.4 dBmV42.5 dB00
      20LockedQAM25620525000000 Hz0.3 dBmV42.4 dB10
      21LockedQAM25621531000000 Hz0.2 dBmV42.3 dB20
      22LockedQAM25622537000000 Hz0.2 dBmV42.3 dB30
      23LockedQAM25623543000000 Hz0.2 dBmV42.4 dB00
      24LockedQAM25624549000000 Hz0.2 dBmV42.4 dB20
      25LockedQAM25625555000000 Hz0.3 dBmV42.5 dB30
      26LockedQAM25626561000000 Hz0.4 dBmV42.5 dB20
      27LockedQAM25627567000000 Hz0.5 dBmV42.5 dB20
      28LockedQAM25628573000000 Hz0.5 dBmV42.6 dB30
      29LockedQAM25629579000000 Hz0.5 dBmV42.6 dB00
      30LockedQAM25630585000000 Hz0.4 dBmV42.6 dB10
      31LockedQAM25631591000000 Hz0.5 dBmV42.7 dB10
      32LockedQAM25632597000000 Hz0.5 dBmV42.6 dB00
       

      Upstream Bonded Channels

      ChannelLock StatusUS Channel TypeChannel IDSymbol RateFrequencyPower
      1LockedATDMA15120 Ksym/sec35600000 Hz50.8 dBmV
      2LockedATDMA25120 Ksym/sec29200000 Hz50.3 dBmV
      3LockedATDMA35120 Ksym/sec22800000 Hz49.8 dBmV
      4LockedATDMA45120 Ksym/sec16400000 Hz49.5 dBmV
      5Not LockedUnknown00 Ksym/sec0 Hz0.0 dBmV
      6Not LockedUnknown00 Ksym/sec0 Hz0.0 dBmV
      7Not LockedUnknown00 Ksym/sec0 Hz0.0 dBmV
      8Not LockedUnknown00 Ksym/sec0 Hz0.0 dBmV
       

      Downstream OFDM Channels

      ChannelLock
      Status
      Modulation /
      Profile ID
      Channel
      ID
      FrequencyPowerSNR /
      MER
      Active Subcarrier
      Number Range
      Unerrored
      Codewords
      Correctable
      Codewords
      Uncorrectable
      Codewords
      1Locked0 ,1 ,2 ,3193678000000 Hz-3.2 dBmV40.5 dB1108 ~ 2987600103421353012746329
      2Not Locked000 Hz0 dBmV0.0 dB0 ~ 4095000
       

      Upstream OFDMA Channels

      ChannelLock StatusModulation / Profile IDChannel IDFrequencyPower
      1Not Locked000 Hz0 dBmV
      2Not Locked000 Hz0 dBmV
       

      Extended Upstream Transmit PowerEnable Extended Upstream Transmit Power

       

      Current System Time:Wed Sep 21 10:06:34 2022System Up Time:2 days 00:43:54

    • sweetgerald's avatar
      sweetgerald
      Aspirant

      Event Log

        

      TimePriorityDescription
      Wed Sep 21 10:09:04 2022Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Tue Sep 20 23:38:34 2022Warning (5)Dynamic Range Window violation
      Tue Sep 20 23:38:34 2022Warning (5)RNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Tue Sep 20 23:38:31 2022Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Mon Sep 19 09:23:41 2022Notice (6)CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 5; Chan ID: 193; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Mon Sep 19 09:23:20 2022Notice (6)DS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Mon Sep 19 09:23:15 2022Notice (6)TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Time Not EstablishedNotice (6)Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6
      Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Sun Sep 18 09:15:54 2022Notice (6)DS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Sun Sep 18 09:15:49 2022Notice (6)TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Time Not EstablishedNotice (6)Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6
      Time Not EstablishedCritical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Fri Sep 09 17:36:16 2022Warning (5)Dynamic Range Window violation
      Fri Sep 09 17:36:16 2022Warning (5)RNG-RSP CCAP Commanded Power Exceeds Value Corresponding to the Top of the DRW;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Fri Sep 09 17:36:15 2022Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Fri Sep 09 15:44:56 2022Notice (6)CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 24; Chan ID: 193; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 3.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Fri Sep 09 15:44:38 2022Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Fri Sep 09 15:44:16 2022Notice (6)CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 16; Chan ID: 193; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 3.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Fri Sep 09 15:44:06 2022Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 18:16:12 2022Notice (6)CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 24; Chan ID: 193; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 3.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 18:15:43 2022Notice (6)CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 16; Chan ID: 193; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: 3.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 18:12:40 2022Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:50:15 2022Notice (6)CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 5; Chan ID: 193; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:49:55 2022Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:49:45 2022Notice (6)CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 5; Chan ID: 193; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:49:24 2022Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:48:55 2022Critical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:48:48 2022Notice (6)DS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:48:47 2022Notice (6)TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:48:39 2022Notice (6)Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6
      Wed Sep 07 09:48:06 2022Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:47:28 2022Warning (5)MDD message timeout;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:47:27 2022Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:47:18 2022Notice (6)CM-STATUS message sent. Event Type Code: 5; Chan ID: 193; DSID: N/A; MAC Addr: N/A; OFDM/OFDMA Profile ID: N/A.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:47:16 2022Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:46:35 2022Critical (3)No Ranging Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:46:29 2022Notice (6)DS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Wed Sep 07 09:46:24 2022Notice (6)TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=9c:c9:eb:34:e4:a0;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:29:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
      Time Not EstablishedNotice (6)Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6
      • FURRYe38's avatar
        FURRYe38
        Guru - Experienced User

        A few Correctables however not bad. Those could be a slight cable issue, bad connector or fitting or maybe a splitter. 

        I see Criticals that the ISP could look into. Check those warnings as well. 

    • sweetgerald's avatar
      sweetgerald
      Aspirant

      Regarding cables:

      • using the LAN cables that came with the hardware (modem/router). 
      • no splitters as far as I know, from the ISP box to the modem (Xfinity tech did bypass some old stuff from previous homeowner's installation, on the morning of 9/7).
      • Xfinity tech said the coax running up to modem was functioning well - it's in an enclosed finished room so I dont have easy access to replace anyway.

      Regarding power:

      • I've power cycled modem/router many times in the past month (including after firmware updates)

      Regarding home details

      • 2600 sqft, spread across 3 stories. Roughly 900 sqft/floor
      • router and satellite are on different floors, opposite corners of the square-shaped house
      • far enough away from other houses that I cannot pick up anyone else's wifi, if that is what you mean by wifi neighbors

      Regarding configuration:

      • using out of the box channels (not familiar with it enough to have changed anything). 
      • I have not power cycled again since I noticed there was a satellite firmware update this morning, that I had not noticed before. Just updated the satellite RBS750 to same firmware as the router.
      • i have not done a factory reset and scratch setup since I had it configured and set up initially 8 months ago. Thought about it, but there's never a convenient time to do it.
      • FURRYe38's avatar
        FURRYe38
        Guru - Experienced User

        sweetgerald wrote:

        Regarding cables:

        • using the LAN cables that came with the hardware (modem/router). <CAT6 is recommended.
        • no splitters as far as I know, from the ISP box to the modem (Xfinity tech did bypass some old stuff from previous homeowner's installation, on the morning of 9/7).
        • Xfinity tech said the coax running up to modem was functioning well - it's in an enclosed finished room so I dont have easy access to replace anyway.

        Regarding power:

        • I've power cycled modem/router many times in the past month (including after firmware updates)

        Regarding home details

        • 2600 sqft, spread across 3 stories. Roughly 900 sqft/floor
        • router and satellite are on different floors, opposite corners of the square-shaped house, <What is the distance between the RBR and RBS?
        • far enough away from other houses that I cannot pick up anyone else's wifi, if that is what you mean by wifi neighbors

        Regarding configuration:

        • using out of the box channels (not familiar with it enough to have changed anything). <Try setting channel 1 and 40 on the RBR. Also set 40Mhz only Under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings. I would also maybe set the power to 50% as well. 
        • I have not power cycled again since I noticed there was a satellite firmware update this morning, that I had not noticed before. Just updated the satellite RBS750 to same firmware as the router. <Be sure that if FW updates are available that the RBS set updated first then the RBR lastly.
        • i have not done a factory reset and scratch setup since I had it configured and set up initially 8 months ago. Thought about it, but there's never a convenient time to do it. <I recommend giving this a try on the entire system and setup from scratch. 
        • Ensure the laptops wifi and ethernet adapter drivers are fully up to date as well.