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glnta
Feb 19, 2012Novice
DGN3500 + DG834GT Access Point
Hi All.
DGN3500, Firmware 1.1.00.33
DG834GT, Firmware 1.03.87
I am using the DG834GT with a patch cable to the DGN3500 as an access point.
I have configured both routers to the same SSID, Channel, Security & Mode.
I have assigned the DG834GT it's own IP address and turned off DHCP.
The access point works as it should, full signal strength in the kitchen (the other end of the house and where the DG834GT is located) where before the signal was 2 bar at best just using the DGN3500.
The trouble I am having is :-
The DG834GT only supports 54Mbps in b & g mode because it has WPA-PSK encryption and not WPA2-PSK, I also know that the security setting of AES and WEP encrytion limits the speed.
I have had to set the DGN3500 to the same encrytion of WPA-PSK and AES to match the DG34GT, even though it supports 300Mbps wirelessly with WPA2-PSK.
Now that the access point is working the wireless light has gone out completely on the DGN3500, and the only wireless network I can connect to is the access point ?
Should I not be able to access the signall from both routers ??
DGN3500, Firmware 1.1.00.33
DG834GT, Firmware 1.03.87
I am using the DG834GT with a patch cable to the DGN3500 as an access point.
I have configured both routers to the same SSID, Channel, Security & Mode.
I have assigned the DG834GT it's own IP address and turned off DHCP.
The access point works as it should, full signal strength in the kitchen (the other end of the house and where the DG834GT is located) where before the signal was 2 bar at best just using the DGN3500.
The trouble I am having is :-
The DG834GT only supports 54Mbps in b & g mode because it has WPA-PSK encryption and not WPA2-PSK, I also know that the security setting of AES and WEP encrytion limits the speed.
I have had to set the DGN3500 to the same encrytion of WPA-PSK and AES to match the DG34GT, even though it supports 300Mbps wirelessly with WPA2-PSK.
Now that the access point is working the wireless light has gone out completely on the DGN3500, and the only wireless network I can connect to is the access point ?
Should I not be able to access the signall from both routers ??
9 Replies
- jmizoguchiVirtuosouse different SSID , different channel
you are working with two different wireless , one only supports 54Mbps and one is put to 300Mbps - glntaNovice
jmizoguchi wrote: use different SSID , different channel
you are working with two different wireless , one only supports 54Mbps and one is put to 300Mbps
I did initially set up two SSIDs, PBS & PBS2, but found that it was hit and miss for some reason whether I could connect to one of them or not. And I also wanted to keep uniformaty with just one network.
Could I not just put the DG834GT on a different channel ?? saying this I dont think this would make any difference.
Was thinking of purchasing the new WNDR4500 and couple that with my DGN3500 and put the DG834GT where it belongs ...... in the bin !!
I would have to setup two different SSIDs then because support is 900 (as if !!) & 300 mbps respectively. - jmizoguchiVirtuosomatching the unit is better when you are doing SAME SSID
if you are not planning to roam throughout the location use different SSID and let each wifi device to use specific SSID. - glntaNovice
jmizoguchi wrote: matching the unit is better when you are doing SAME SSID
if you are not planning to roam throughout the location use different SSID and let each wifi device to use specific SSID.
My thoughts exactly but another problem has emerged.
I had already set up both routers with the same SSID, Channel, Encrytion and key but quickly realised that, because the DG834GT only supports 54Mbps because the encryption is only WEP or WPA-PSK (TKIP) whereas the DGN3500 Is Dual Band Wireless N and supports up to 300 Mbps, the wireless speed would default to the slowest, namely 54 Mbps. When I had one SSID setup I had to set encryption on the DGN3500 to WPA-PSK to match the DG834GT instead of the better WPA2-PSK, which support faster speeds namely wireless N. Anyway, this method worked perfectly, one WIFI network to access, no switching, simples.
Considering that I had already swapped my wireless card in my laptop for an Intel Advanced Ultimate N 6300 and re-wrote the bios so that the HP laptop accepts it so I could get the 300 Mbps speed there I wasn’t willing to trade my 300 Mbps WIFI for 54 Mbps !!
After further testing failed to yield results I Decided to set up two diffrent WIFI networks set up two different SSID's. I assigned the DG834GT a different IP address (192.168.0.250) disabled DHCP.
When it came to the WIFI part I set up a different SSID, channel and security (WPA-PSK) on the DG834GT and changed the settings on the DGN3500 to orignal SSID, channel and WPA2-PSK encryption. Whilst having the DG834GT plugged into the DGN3500 and the laptop plugged into the DG834GT (wireless disabled when testing LAN) I tested both SSIDs, both networks showed up in searching for networks and I could connect to both via wireless and LAN. Once I knew everything worked I moved the DG834GT into the kitchen and plugged it into the network cable that I had run in earlier and powered it up. This still showed up in the "attached devices" in the DGN3500 so I knew that the cable I'd run in was good.
I took my laptop into the kitchen and connected to the DGN3500’s SSID with no problems but when I tried to connect to the DG834GT’s SSID I kept getting "unidentified network". Yet 5 minutes earlier all was fine in the office !! Then the first SSID would suddenly not be able to connect at all as if the 2nd SSID was interfering with it.
Just to be sure it wasn’t the DG834Gt that was at fault I used another router, the D-Link 264OS to test. This was brand new and still in the box. I followed this set up guide again just to be sure I wasn’t going insane and during the testing stage everything worked just like before, so I relocated the D-Link into the kitchen to test (WIFI) and started getting "unidentified network" again. I tried with LAN connected with wireless disabled and I get a perfect connection.
I moved to the lounge and I could see both SSID’s and could connect to the SSID of the DGN3500 perfectly but not the DG834GT's SSID, showed connected but unidentified network.
Next, I disconnected the LAN going to the 2nd router (from the first) to test the router, I connected to it's own IP (192.168.0.250) wirelessly via the D-Links own SSID and got into the router status page whilst the SSID still showed unidentified network. I can connect to 192.168.0.250 via the DGN3500's SSID no problem, I can connect to the main router's page (192.168.0.1) with it's own SSID with no problems.
Any advice on the unidentifed network issue would be greatly received. - jmizoguchiVirtuosojust other wifi adapter compatibility between the DG
- glntaNovice
jmizoguchi wrote: just other wifi adapter compatibility between the DG
What ? you mean laptop's WIFI card compatibility with DG834GT ? - glntaNovice
glnta wrote: What ? you mean laptop's WIFI card compatibility with DG834GT ?
And also that woulkd make it incompatiable with the D-Link 264OS also, which I find hard to believe and a bit of a coincidence. - jmizoguchiVirtuosoJust because it work on dlink does means should work on others
Chipset in both side can cause the issues. You find issues like this all the time in the thread - glntaNoviceI will totally remove the DGN3500 later and put in its place the DG834GT on its own, turn on DHCP and see if I can connect to it via WIFI with the centrino ultimate N6300, if I can then there is obviously no compatiability issue. If there is I will throw the 834 in the bin !!