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Jammers
Sep 23, 2014Tutor
Nighthawk R7000 vs R8000
I'm looking for a new ac wireless router and want to know which of these models is the best. What are the pros and cons of each router?
- Well i just pulled the trigger on the R7000. Usually i go for the latest and greatest but it sounds like the R8000 still has some bugs to work out and the R7000 more then meets my needs. :)
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- sutedyGuide
Jammers wrote: Well i just pulled the trigger on the R7000. Usually i go for the latest and greatest but it sounds like the R8000 still has some bugs to work out and the R7000 more then meets my needs. :)
If I were you, I will neither buy R8000 nor Asus RT87U.
Do not believe 4x4 MU-MIMO will solve your busy WLAN problems as up to today there's none of AC client adapter supports this (max 3x3).
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/32518-netgear-r7500-nighthawk-x4-smart-wifi-router-reviewed?showall=&start=4 - RogerSCVirtuoso
dallascowboysworldchamps wrote: Why would you need two 5hz channels?
Say you had stopped using 2.4GHz. wireless because it had slowed down in your neighborhood or apartment due to a lot of interference from various sources. And you had cut out your cable TV and were now getting your TV and phone over the internet. Plus you have some other sources of media streaming, like a NAS, And you have laptops and mobile devices that want to just casually use the internet, but don't need a lot of speed. And several people live in your house or apartment that are doing different things on the internet. You might want some fairly clear bandwidth on 5GHz. for streaming, and maybe some bandwidth for the the devices that use the internet casually (not streaming), but you don't want them to disturb the streaming that's also going on.
I'm not in the place where I need that much bandwidth, but I do currently subscribe to cable TV, and only get about 28Mbps from my ISP. I also don't have a NAS currently, but we do stream Netflix and Amazon Prime movies. And we have 3 adults living here, with frequent adult visitors. So we couldn't use that much bandwidth, or even as much as we have now with the R7000.
However I can see how a router that can intelligently allocate a couple of radios between different purposes could be very useful under some circumstances. I don't think that the R8000 firmware is that intelligent in allocating particular usage patterns to radios itself at the moment, but I believe that you can do it manually. At some point in the future, the R8000 firmware may get to the point where it can transparently do the radio allocation, and things will work better for those that need that much bandwidth.
At the moment, the R7000 provides all the bandwidth that we need, with plenty of room for more *smile*. - VE6CGXMasterHi,
I tried R8000 for a week or so and replaced it with R7500. In R8000, on 5GHz, radio 1 uses lower side freq. spectrum vs. radio 2 using higher side. Because of this the signal at given distance is little bit different between two radios. radio 2 has better signal. Throughput rate between 2 radios maybe slightly different because of this. R7500
has long way to go to realize it's superior hardware but at the moment I like it's QOS and stock f/w is quite stable. OpenWRT beta f/w is also available with some issues and I tried it to find out it is working well as good as stock f/w on basic router function. - sutedyGuideCan you post your result?
- VE6CGXMaster
dallascowboysworldchamps wrote: Why would you need two 5hz channels?
Hi,
To improve total throughput..... - VE6CGXMasterHi,
R7500 for now is slightly slower than R7000, Linksys WRT1900AC, overall but QOS works very well specially with my Big Foot Killer WiFi cards. I hope
new f/w will tap into more powerful hardware, I don't care much about MU-MIMO.
Even at same clock rate Qualcomm cpu will be faster than Broadcom one due to
different platform. OpenWRT beta f/w was quite buggy except basic router function but easy to flash or revert(by TFTP). - sutedyGuide
VE6CGX wrote: Hi,
To improve total throughput.....
Does this technology exist today? I am talking about 4x4 MU-MIMO
wireless client adapter for desktop or laptop.
Quoted "Although I am told that MU-MIMO is currently enabled in the router, there are no clients to test it with"
http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/wireless/wireless-reviews/32485-asus-rt-ac87u-dual-band-wireless-ac2400-gigabit-router-first-look
I noted there are two routers asus RT87U or netgear R8000 currently supports it. - Redtulips7Luminary
sutedy wrote: Can you post your result?
result???:confused::confused::confused:Am I taking exam here? - sutedyGuide
Redtulips7 wrote: result???:confused::confused::confused:Am I taking exam here?
:D:D:D not result as in exam. But rather your own experience
See this router log with other firmware version
http://forum1.netgear.com/showthread.php?t=93283&page=2
Can share yours? - RogerSCVirtuososutedy, not sure why you don't believe what people say? I'd rather see what people have to say how long their router is up between reboots or resets than fill the forum with router status postings.
If people care enough to lie, they can easily fix a router status posting to say whatever they want. They're not certified or notarized or anything *smile*.