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User89
Mar 06, 2023Initiate
Online (VPN Disconnected)
It suddenly has shown the message 'online (VPD Dissconnected)' on Window app from 5days ago. I already uninstalled and reinstalled the app, but it still doesn't work. I can connect on the Chrome we...
StephenB
Mar 19, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Both are good solutions, but I still think ZeroTier requires a bit more tech knowledge. Just my opinion, certainly something people can disagree about.
One thing I have been wondering about is whether ZeroTier could handle the case where the ReadyNAS is connected via mobile broadband. OpenVPN won't, because it requires the ability to make an inbound connection to the remote network. Those networks (and landline ISPs that use CGNAT) can't support those inbound connections.
ZeroTier Central in principle could handle this scenario, and it would be useful to check that it actually does. When/if I have time, I'll investigate that (I can test it on T-Mobile broadband). Though if someone else here can test it, it'd be great if they could post their findings.
Sandshark wrote:
The GUI in ZeroTier Central will allow you to assign a fixed address to each device if you so desire (and I recommend you do). In my case, all devices have a reserved IP address on my home network of 192.168.0.xxx and I have assigned a ZeroTier address of 192.168.192.xxx (same xxx on each network) for ease in remembering the addresses.
One example that illustrates the need for network knowledge. You do need to know some basics about subnets and IP addresses to set this up properly - avoiding conflicts, etc. Many users do have that knowledge of course, but I think a lot of ReadyCloud users don't.
Sandshark wrote:
I consider it an advantage that the networks are not bridged, but all devices I need to access have a ZeroTier version available.
I think this is particularly advantageous if you want to install a backup ReadyNAS at another location (friend or family) as part of disaster recovery. ZeroTier lets you connect specifically to your remote ReadyNAS without needing general access to that person's network, and without needing DDNS to reach that person's network. The connectivity you need doesn't get interrupted if they upgrade to another router, change to another ISP, etc.
At this point I'm not deploying my ReadyNAS that way - my disaster plan is built on cloud backup. All my ReadyNAS (main and backup) are on my home network, and all I need is remote access from my laptop and sometimes my phone. Even then I am more often connecting to a home PC (rdp and similar tools) than I am connecting to the NAS. OpenVPN fits my use case perfectly, but if I were to put a backup NAS at a family member's home, I'd definitely be looking at ZeroTier.
Mike101
Mar 20, 2023Tutor
Thank you all for your ideas.
Do I install ZeroTier or similar on my ReadNAS (NAS104) device or will it work with just installing ZeroTier on the other PCs.
Also can I run the ZeroTier as well as the ReadyCloud App at the same time until I am confident in my setup of ZeroTier or similar.
(I did say my knowledge was basic)
I am now going to try and improve my knowledge on Networks
- StephenBMar 20, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Mike101 wrote:
Do I install ZeroTier or similar on my ReadNAS (NAS104) device or will it work with just installing ZeroTier on the other PCs.
It depends a bit on which approach you want to take.
(1) With ZeroTier you'll want to install it on the NAS and of course the devices you want to use remotely.
If you want to access other devices (for instance home PCs) remotely, you'd also need to install ZeroTier on them. ReadyCloud doesn't offer that, but it is something I find useful.
One way to get started is to set ZeroTier up on a phone and a laptop. Create a test network share on the laptop, and then access it from the phone when the phone isn't connected to your home wifi. Once you have that running, you can install it on the NAS and add the NAS to the ZeroTier network. You can then delete the test network share.
(2) With OpenVPN, the openVPN server is only in the router (with nothing installed on the NAS), but of course you still need the OpenVPN client on the devices you use remotely. Obviously this requires a router that has OpenVPN built in.
If you have a Netgear router, it's slightly easier to start by setting up the client on your phone/tablet and then accessing the NAS from the phone. There is a extra step needed to get it to work on a Windows PC (renaming the VPN connection in the PC to NETGEAR-VPN).
BTW, MicroTik routers have both ZeroTier and OpenVPN built in. Not a router I've ever used myself, but I think it is nice that they offer both options.
Mike101 wrote:
Also can I run the ZeroTier as well as the ReadyCloud App at the same time until I am confident in my setup of ZeroTier or similar.
Yes. (equally true with OpenVPN). I recommend doing that, so you'll have all the kinks worked out before the ReadyCloud service ends.
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