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munka
Aug 31, 2012Aspirant
Drive OK after high Reallocated Sector Count
Hi.
Have two ReadyNas Duos - one for home (with 2TB drives, Raidar 4.1.7), one for work (with 1.5TB drives, Raidar 4.1.8)). I got a sudden reallocated sector count failure on one of the 2TB drives. I pulled it and replaced it, but before I trashed the drive, I wanted to reformat so no files were on it, no one could plug it in an read sensitive data).
I plugged it in via usb external drive enclosure, mounted the ext drive using "Ext2 Volume Manager". I was able to see all folders/files, and deleted everything, then reformated to FAT just to be sure everything was wiped off. I was curious that I could do this with a 'failed' drive, so I checked the disk using Windows 7 Error checking available under the 'tools' tab after right clicking the drive and choosing 'properties'. Windows tells me the disk is fine with no errors.
Whats going on here? Is the drive usable?
Thanks!
Have two ReadyNas Duos - one for home (with 2TB drives, Raidar 4.1.7), one for work (with 1.5TB drives, Raidar 4.1.8)). I got a sudden reallocated sector count failure on one of the 2TB drives. I pulled it and replaced it, but before I trashed the drive, I wanted to reformat so no files were on it, no one could plug it in an read sensitive data).
I plugged it in via usb external drive enclosure, mounted the ext drive using "Ext2 Volume Manager". I was able to see all folders/files, and deleted everything, then reformated to FAT just to be sure everything was wiped off. I was curious that I could do this with a 'failed' drive, so I checked the disk using Windows 7 Error checking available under the 'tools' tab after right clicking the drive and choosing 'properties'. Windows tells me the disk is fine with no errors.
Whats going on here? Is the drive usable?
Thanks!
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- mdgm-ntgrNETGEAR Employee RetiredI presume this is a SeaGate drive? Can you connect it to an internal SATA port in the PC and check it using SeaTools?
What was the reallocated sector count on the drive? - StephenBGuru - Experienced UserWindows might well tell you the drive is ok, as long as all the sectors are reallocated properly. That doesn't mean that the drive is healthy (as usually more failures happen quickly). And seek times the include the reallocated sectors get longer, since the drive has to divert its course to grab the reallocated data.
Seatools is a better tool, but even there Seagate has a higher failure threshold than I would like. You can also use acronis drive monitor (free download) to see the actual SMART counts. - munkaAspirantHi.
Yes a Seagate ST32000542AS.
The reallocated sector count jumped from 0 to 1550 overnight. I ordered a new disk from Newegg that day. Two days later the count jumper to 3900 and this message "Disk 1 did not pass SMART self-assessment test." So i pulled the disk and replaced it.
Its a a pain in the rear for me to connect the disk to an internal SATA drive - its connected to an external drive enclosure via usb at the moment.
So I should just let the old drive go I guess, even though Windows thinks its fine? Just seems like such a waste. Ah well. - mdgm-ntgrNETGEAR Employee RetiredThe disk is failing. I wouldn't trust it.
- StephenBGuru - Experienced User
I'd check on the Seagate site to see if it is still under warranty. If so, I'd RMA it (using failure code 659DC7AE. See http://www.seagate.com/staticfiles/supp ... codes.html)mdgm wrote: The disk is failing. I wouldn't trust it.
I certainly wouldn't use it, except perhaps as a doorstop. - claykinAspirant
munka wrote: Hi.
Yes a Seagate ST32000542AS.
The reallocated sector count jumped from 0 to 1550 overnight. I ordered a new disk from Newegg that day. Two days later the count jumper to 3900 and this message "Disk 1 did not pass SMART self-assessment test." So i pulled the disk and replaced it.
Its a a pain in the rear for me to connect the disk to an internal SATA drive - its connected to an external drive enclosure via usb at the moment.
So I should just let the old drive go I guess, even though Windows thinks its fine? Just seems like such a waste. Ah well.
Windows cannot read SMART data when the disk is connected via USB. Requires a native SATA connection and proper motherboard BIOS support.
As StephenB recommended, just RMA it to Seagate. You do NOT need to run Seatools to establish a Seagate RMA. - StephenBGuru - Experienced User
I don't know if the Windows OS itself uses SMART data (on either internal or external drives). If it's reporting this drive as healthy, it probably doesn't.claykin wrote: Windows cannot read SMART data when the disk is connected via USB. Requires a native SATA connection and proper motherboard BIOS support
Acronis Drive Monitor will read SMART data for drives connected with USB adapters - at least it does on the PCs I have. Seatools and Lifeguard also run. Firmware updates are probably a bigger issue, that seems to be hit or miss.
Totally true, and worth repeating. There is some mis-information on this topic on various threads here and other forums. Seagate recognizes that some people can't run Seatools for various reasons. The Seagate link in my earlier post has "self-service" codes you can use instead of Seatools.claykin wrote: ...You do NOT need to run Seatools to establish a Seagate RMA.
Of course you run a risk if you return a good drive under RMA. But this one isn't good - it would fail at this point (~3000 reallocated sectors, and fails the drive's built-in self-test), but there really is no need to spend the time.
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