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Andreas64nl
Jan 11, 2023Aspirant
ReadyNAS Ultra 6 Review (RNDU6000) no network activity???
I have a Netgear ReadyNAS Ultra 6 Review (RNDU6000) that I suddenly couldn't access through my computer last night. The NAS is in my network and is my storage of miscellaneous. It's in a kind of raid...
- Jan 15, 2023
Andreas64nl wrote:How to install OS 6 because I have a ReadyNAS Ultra 6?
I recommend increasing the RAM before you begin. Shipping OS-6 NAS have at least 2 GB of RAM, your ReadyNAS only has 1 GB. It might work, but there have been folks who have run into out-of-memory issues after converting. The upgrade is inexpensive, and is simple to do. If you aren't sure what to purchase, you can open the chassis and examine the RAM that's already installed in order to find something compatible.
Also, if you have the skills, you should probably back up the VPD before conversion. Netgear Mods so far have resolved the VPD problem for users who have run into it, but backing it up would allow you to resolve the issue on your own if you run into it. More information on this is here:
The conversion steps are:
(Optionally) make sure the latest BIOS is installed before you do the conversion. To do this you install http://www.readynas.com/download/addons/x86/4.2/BIOS_Update_Package_0.5-x86.bin as an add-on and reboot the NAS. Do this after you backup the NAS. This isn't necessary, but if you do want to update the BIOS it is easiest to do it prior to conversion
Basic instructions for the conversion itself are
- BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP
- Upload PREPR4TOR6_0.1-x86.bin as an add-on using the ReadyNAS web gui, but do not reboot afterwards (avoids the need to do manual factory resets)
- Upload R4toR6_6.9.5.bin using the ReadyNAS web gui firmware update
- After you upload the addon+firmware and reboot, it will update the firmware and start a factory default.
- Go through the setup process on the converted NAS
- Update the NAS to the current OS 6 (check for updates will work).
- Restore files from the backup.
There is a small risk that the process could fail, and if that were to happen it might not be possible to get the NAS running again.
Note that if you ever need to do a USB recovery later on, you will need to use the procedure for 4.2 systems - substituting an OS-6 image for the 4.2.31 one.
Andreas64nl
Jan 15, 2023Aspirant
I installed everthing and it is working. I can now acces via the browser, yeaahhhhh. Thank you so much for this help.
How to install OS 6 because I have a ReadyNAS Ultra 6?
StephenB
Jan 15, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Andreas64nl wrote:How to install OS 6 because I have a ReadyNAS Ultra 6?
I recommend increasing the RAM before you begin. Shipping OS-6 NAS have at least 2 GB of RAM, your ReadyNAS only has 1 GB. It might work, but there have been folks who have run into out-of-memory issues after converting. The upgrade is inexpensive, and is simple to do. If you aren't sure what to purchase, you can open the chassis and examine the RAM that's already installed in order to find something compatible.
Also, if you have the skills, you should probably back up the VPD before conversion. Netgear Mods so far have resolved the VPD problem for users who have run into it, but backing it up would allow you to resolve the issue on your own if you run into it. More information on this is here:
The conversion steps are:
(Optionally) make sure the latest BIOS is installed before you do the conversion. To do this you install http://www.readynas.com/download/addons/x86/4.2/BIOS_Update_Package_0.5-x86.bin as an add-on and reboot the NAS. Do this after you backup the NAS. This isn't necessary, but if you do want to update the BIOS it is easiest to do it prior to conversion
Basic instructions for the conversion itself are
- BACKUP, BACKUP, BACKUP
- Upload PREPR4TOR6_0.1-x86.bin as an add-on using the ReadyNAS web gui, but do not reboot afterwards (avoids the need to do manual factory resets)
- Upload R4toR6_6.9.5.bin using the ReadyNAS web gui firmware update
- After you upload the addon+firmware and reboot, it will update the firmware and start a factory default.
- Go through the setup process on the converted NAS
- Update the NAS to the current OS 6 (check for updates will work).
- Restore files from the backup.
There is a small risk that the process could fail, and if that were to happen it might not be possible to get the NAS running again.
Note that if you ever need to do a USB recovery later on, you will need to use the procedure for 4.2 systems - substituting an OS-6 image for the 4.2.31 one.
- Andreas64nlJan 16, 2023Aspirant
Thank you for the explanation. I asked a college whom has a lot off stuff on his attic for a extra memory bank. So, first that.
I updated the latest bios. The link is not working btw, you need the same link but with https.
Is it possible to get the vpd file of via WinSCP because now I can access via root the NAS?
- SandsharkJan 16, 2023Sensei - Experienced User
The VPD is on the internal flash, which is not accessible with a normal boot, even as root. Thus the need for the special instructions.
- Andreas64nlJan 16, 2023Aspirant
These special instructions are a bit tricky and I don`t want to lose my data. I made back-ups for most important things but there is to much to back-up. What I understand is that you have to be quick for to get that file on the USB stick or else you lose everything. So, if you want to OS 6 you always lose your data and start all over again? And than with the VPD file you set everything back?
- SandsharkJan 16, 2023Sensei - Experienced User
When you upgrade to OS6, you lose everything, period. OS6 uses a different drive format than OS4, as well as a larger OS partition. You also cannot save a configuration file and restore it from OS4.2.x to OS6. You are completely starting over and restoring your files from backup.
The VPD is just where your model number and serial number are stored, in an encrypted form. It's not supposed to be touched by the upgrade to OS6. But some have found that it was corrupted or deleted as a part of the upgrade or a later update of OS6 on a legacy unit. And if it's missing or corrupt, you can't properly boot the NAS. So backing it up is a precaution.
- Andreas64nlJan 17, 2023Aspirant
Okay, I understand now. From scratch! I have to find temporal back-up than first. And getting the VPD file is simple to do?
- Andreas64nlJan 18, 2023Aspirant
I want to thank you all for the help. I couldn't have done it without that help. I need to think carefully about what I'm going to do next. At the moment I find it tricky to bring this NAS to OS 6. Although I find the process of doing it very interesting and fun. In the meantime I have a new disk in the NAS and it is back as it was. Maybe I'll buy a whole new NAS. One of these times with the specs of this time.
- Andreas64nlFeb 11, 2023Aspirant
Okay, here I am again. It took some time to get the memmory banks but they are inside now. I have 2GB memmory. What should I do first?
- SandsharkFeb 11, 2023Sensei - Experienced User
Making sure the backup is complete is the first step. Since the conversion process can corrupt the VPD (never has for me, and I've converted a lot of units, but there have been reports here), then backing up the VPD is the best next step. Then, the actual conversion. The steps that take a significant amount of time are the backup, sync of the OS6 volume, and restoration of files.
- Andreas64nlFeb 11, 2023Aspirant
Okay, first to get that VPD file. I hope I can get it off the NAS.
- StephenBFeb 11, 2023Guru - Experienced User
Andreas64nl wrote:
Okay, first to get that VPD file. I hope I can get it off the NAS.
Sandshark posted instructions for that here:
- Andreas64nlFeb 12, 2023Aspirant
I can not log in via putty?
- Andreas64nlFeb 12, 2023Aspirant
I have trubbles to get in support tech. The manual is not correct. They say to hold the reset button in and than with the backup button too scroll but that does not work. When I release the reset button I can scroll but any other button I put in nothing happens.
Okay I am in Techsupport and get an IP but can not get in via putty?
- SandsharkFeb 12, 2023Sensei - Experienced User
"Can't get in" is not much of a description. Don't connect at all, or the credentials are refused?
In Tech Support mode, you use Telnet, not SSH. Putty can do that, but if you are used to using SSH, that will be the default. You also have to use user name root and password infr8ntdebug. If those don't help, then you need to be more specific in your description of the problem.
- Andreas64nlFeb 12, 2023Aspirant
I did what is in the manual. Via putty with telnet but no connection.
I tried to boot the NAS again but it is not booting any more. So, I dont know what happend??? Only seeing READY NAS. And RAIDar can not find the NAS either. Even without disks it is not booting.
- SandsharkFeb 12, 2023Sensei - Experienced User
Sadly, this is sounding more and more like a hardware issue and you just got lucky when it booted a few times. Are you back to seeing no Ethernet activity? Try turning it off for an extended period and re-boot.
- Andreas64nlFeb 12, 2023Aspirant
No network activity indeed. Could it be that the NAS is initializing the disks some how? Or because off the 2 new memory banks?
- SandsharkFeb 13, 2023Sensei - Experienced User
Did you ever get it to boot past "ReadyNAS" on the display with the new memory? If not, it could be either the memory itself or something that came loose when you added it. It's not the drives initializing. Even though access can be a bit slow, your NAS is still accessible during volume initialization.
- Andreas64nlFeb 13, 2023Aspirant
With the new memory banks it was just working fine. Boot a several times and it was accessible. After trying to get in support tech modus it was till working fine. Just when I was to try again and check Putty is via telnet and not SSH, I pushed twice for shutting down. After that is was not booting again. I tried also with the old memory bank but still the same. Not booting, no internet led`s and not accessible. So it is not booting. With disks or without disks. With new memory or old memory.
- SandsharkFeb 13, 2023Sensei - Experienced User
And the display just says "ReadyNAS"? Could be flash memory corruption, for which a USB recovery is the solution. Did you successfully back up the VPD file? Since USB recovery re-writes the flash where the VPD is located, corruption of it is possible (though it's supposed to be protected).
- Andreas64nlFeb 13, 2023Aspirant
Yes, only READYNAS and fans full blowing. And green led above backp button on.
- SandsharkFeb 13, 2023Sensei - Experienced User
The display will show "ReadyNAS" with nothing present except 5V, so there are many possibilities.
Sounds like time to try USB recovery. You never got to the point of installing OS6, right? So, a standard OS4.2.31 recovery is called for. It could be the power supply or something else (lots of re-booting can stress an old PSU and other components). If the USB recovery doesn't work, then further investigation is best performed by first installing a VGA cable and monitor onto the VGA header located on the motherboard and seeing if it's even getting through motherboard POST.
- Andreas64nlFeb 13, 2023Aspirant
Never installed OS6. https://kb.netgear.com/30267/RAIDiator-4-2-USB-Recovery-Tool never worked so far. I follow the rules and create a usb but it is not comming in recovery modus or any modus.
- SandsharkFeb 14, 2023Sensei - Experienced User
Legacy units are very picky about the USB drive you use, so you should try a couple more if you have them.
- Andreas64nlFeb 14, 2023AspirantOkay, I will try.
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