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CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

AndrewD0318
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CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

I bought a CAX80 yesterday, with the hopes that the wi-fi in it would be better than the XF XB7 with the 2 GB plan. After activating the CAX80 on XF, it's falling real short of what I was getting with the XF gateway.

 

I have it routed through a 5-port 2.5GB switch (standard fare), then to the PC (2.5GB PCIE card, onboard couldn't handle it).

Speedtest (online/app) Fast, and internal tests (XF app, and both Netgear App/logged into modem), all come up in the range of 500-600MB down, 5Mb (yes, Mega) up.

On the XB7 I got from Xfinity, I was getting 2.2G/240M, religiously.

Wifi (using my S22U to test, in the same room), has similar results, 500-600D/5M up.

I've tried to read/step through every article I could on this, but there seems to be no change.

Looking at anything to try, at this point.

Message 1 of 19
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

So you could not speed test effectively on the ethernet connected 2.5Gb PC? 

One should see near this thru the PC, Switch connected to the 2.5Gb multi gig port on the CAX80. 

What is the Mfr and model# of the ethernet switch in the configuration?

 

I get over 900Mpbs with my ethernet connected PC on my 1Gb ISP Plan here. 

Be sure your using a good quality LAN cable between the modem and router. CAT6A STP is recommended for connection speeds 2.5Gb and higher.

 

 

You'll not see any near this on WiFi. AX mode and 5Ghz and design of the wifi mobile devices are limited and mostly 2x2 MIMO antenna supporting. So I would presume at best, you might see 700-800Mpbs. 

I get around just over 800Mpbs with my Samsung Galaxy Tab S7 FW on my 1Gb ISP plan here thru the CAX80. 

 

If you have a 4x4 MIMO supporting device then you should see 900Mpbs or over however, still depending if the device can support 160Mhz and can connect at 2.5Gb or beyond which the CAX80 supports 4800Mpbs on 5Ghz however thats mostly in close proximity with the CAX80 and near perfect condtions. I've never seen 4800Mpbs with my CAX80 and a RAXE500 in wirelss bridge mode. 

Link Rate
2722.2 Mbps

 

What Firmware version is currently loaded?

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AndrewD0318
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Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

Hi, the switch is a TrendNet  TEG-S350, but looping that out, there is no change. CAX80 straight to PC is still 500-600. All cables are CAT8. Exact cables/switch/setup as with the Xfin XB7 gateway, it's just 1/3 the speed.

The wifi performance isn't bothering me as much for the moment as the LAN. Speedtest within the netgear app shows 2300D/240U. (as well as the "2.5" lit up on the front of the modem.

Actual speed tests result in 500-600 and less than 10M up.

Firmware is V2.1.5.2

Message 3 of 19
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

So you were able to see to spec speeds with same PC connected to the ISP modem? 

CAT8 STP should be used.

 

Please post a copy and paste of the modems connection status and event log page.
https://kb.netgear.com/30007/How-do-I-obtain-the-cable-connection-information-from-a-NETGEAR-cable-m...
https://kb.netgear.com/30008/How-do-I-view-or-clear-the-event-logs-on-my-NETGEAR-cable-modem-or-mode...

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AndrewD0318
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Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

To answer your question, yes, I get the 2.2G on the xfinity gateway, direct to PC and through switch.

Connection info:

ProcedureStatusComment
Acquire Downstream Channel447 MHzLocked
Connectivity StateOKOperational
Boot StateOKOperational
SecurityEnabledBPI+

 

ChannelLock StatusModulationChannel IDFrequencyPowerSNRCorrectablesUncorrectables
1Locked256 QAM4447000000 Hz0.9 dBmV45.1 dB00
2Locked256 QAM1429000000 Hz0.9 dBmV45.1 dB00
3Locked256 QAM2435000000 Hz0.7 dBmV45.0 dB00
4Locked256 QAM3441000000 Hz0.8 dBmV45.1 dB00
5Locked256 QAM5453000000 Hz1.2 dBmV45.2 dB00
6Locked256 QAM6459000000 Hz1.2 dBmV45.3 dB00
7Locked256 QAM7465000000 Hz1.1 dBmV45.1 dB00
8Locked256 QAM8471000000 Hz1.1 dBmV44.7 dB00
9Locked256 QAM9477000000 Hz1.1 dBmV44.6 dB00
10Locked256 QAM10483000000 Hz1.3 dBmV45.1 dB00
11Locked256 QAM11489000000 Hz1.3 dBmV44.9 dB00
12Locked256 QAM12495000000 Hz1.5 dBmV37.7 dB00
13Locked256 QAM13501000000 Hz1.3 dBmV40.9 dB00
14Locked256 QAM14507000000 Hz1.5 dBmV35.9 dB00
15Locked256 QAM15513000000 Hz1.4 dBmV38.7 dB00
16Locked256 QAM16519000000 Hz1.6 dBmV44.8 dB00
17Locked256 QAM17525000000 Hz1.5 dBmV45.0 dB00
18Locked256 QAM18531000000 Hz1.8 dBmV45.1 dB00
19Locked256 QAM19537000000 Hz1.5 dBmV44.9 dB00
20Locked256 QAM20543000000 Hz1.6 dBmV45.0 dB00
21Locked256 QAM21549000000 Hz1.3 dBmV44.8 dB00
22Locked256 QAM22555000000 Hz1.2 dBmV44.7 dB00
23Locked256 QAM23561000000 Hz1.3 dBmV44.7 dB00
24Locked256 QAM24567000000 Hz1.4 dBmV44.6 dB00
25Locked256 QAM25573000000 Hz1.6 dBmV44.9 dB00
26Locked256 QAM26579000000 Hz1.7 dBmV44.9 dB00
27Locked256 QAM27585000000 Hz1.8 dBmV44.9 dB00
28Locked256 QAM28591000000 Hz1.8 dBmV44.8 dB00
29Locked256 QAM29597000000 Hz1.8 dBmV44.7 dB00
30Locked256 QAM30603000000 Hz1.6 dBmV44.6 dB00
31Locked256 QAM31609000000 Hz1.9 dBmV44.7 dB00
32Locked256 QAM32615000000 Hz1.5 dBmV44.5 dB00

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Message 5 of 19
AndrewD0318
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Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

Ok, now I guess I need help on how to post the rest of the logs, I get this error: "Your post has been changed because invalid HTML was found in the message body. The invalid HTML has been removed. Please review the message and submit the message when you are satisfied."

Message 6 of 19
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

Just press POST when you see that message. 

 

Cable Connections page looks good. Power and such is with specs. Zero Correctables is good. 

 

Post the Event Logs page.

 

What is the connection rate speed seen on the CAX80s WEB page under Advanced tab/Internet Port section/Show Stats/LAN port 5?

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Message 7 of 19
AndrewD0318
Aspirant

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

Ok, it just kept giving me the error repeatedly.


Event Log: (seeing all the "critical", makes me wonder if this is "it"

TimePriorityDescription
Sun Jul 2 15:25:46 2023Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun Jul 2 15:25:46 2023Notice (6)DS profile assignment change. DS Chan ID: 32; Previous Profile: ; New Profile: 1 2 3.;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sun Jul 2 15:25:20 2023Notice (6)TLV-11 - unrecognized OID;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:50 1970Notice (6)Honoring MDD; IP provisioning mode = IPv6
Thu Jan 1 00:00:44 1970Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:43 1970Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 16:40:55 2023Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:44 1970Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:43 1970Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 16:38:29 2023Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 16:38:27 2023Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 16:38:22 2023Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 16:38:19 2023Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 16:38:17 2023Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 16:38:14 2023Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 16:38:12 2023Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 16:38:10 2023Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 16:38:08 2023Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 16:38:06 2023Critical (3)Started Unicast Maintenance Ranging - No Response received - T3 time-out;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 15:46:51 2023Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:45 1970Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:44 1970Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 14:46:29 2023Critical (3)Received Response to Broadcast Maintenance Request, But no Unicast Maintenance opportunities received - T4 time out;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 14:45:54 2023Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 14:45:47 2023Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 14:45:45 2023Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 14:02:21 2023Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:44 1970Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:43 1970Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 13:41:35 2023Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:45 1970Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:43 1970Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 13:14:34 2023Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:46 1970Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:43 1970Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 13:12:19 2023Critical (3)Resetting the cable modem due to docsDevResetNow
Sat Jul 1 13:07:01 2023Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:44 1970Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Thu Jan 1 00:00:43 1970Critical (3)SYNC Timing Synchronization failure - Failed to acquire QAM/QPSK symbol timing;;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:00:00:00:00:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;
Sat Jul 1 13:04:03 2023Critical (3)UCD invalid or channel unusable;CM-MAC=94:18:65:a4:8d:b3;CMTS-MAC=00:90:f0:31:0b:00;CM-QOS=1.1;CM-VER=3.1;

 

 

Others from connection:

Upstream Bonded Channels 
ChannelLock StatusUS Channel TypeChannel IDSymbol RateFrequencyPower     
1LockedATDMA35120 Ksym/sec29200000 Hz36.3 dBmV     
2LockedATDMA25120 Ksym/sec22800000 Hz36.5 dBmV     
3LockedATDMA15120 Ksym/sec16400000 Hz36.5 dBmV     
4LockedATDMA45120 Ksym/sec35600000 Hz36.3 dBmV     
5Not LockedUnknown0000.0 dBmV     
6Not LockedUnknown0000.0 dBmV     
7Not LockedUnknown0000.0 dBmV     
8Not LockedUnknown0000.0 dBmV     
 
Downstream OFDM Channels 
ChannelLockModulation /ChannelFrequencyPowerSNR /Active SubcarrierUnerroredCorrectableUncorrectable 
StatusProfile IDIDMERNumber RangeCodewordsCodewordsCodewords 
1Locked0 ,1 ,2 ,3193957000000 Hz2.08 dBmV43.8 dB148 ~ 39471237297018115900 
2Not Locked000 Hz0 dBmV0 dB0 ~ 4095000 
 
Upstream OFDMA Channels 
ChannelLock StatusModulation / Profile IDChannel IDFrequencyPower      
1Not Locked000 Hz0 dBmV      
2Not Locked000 Hz0 dBmV      

 

Stats:

System Up Time 02:34:04

PortStatusTxPktsRxPktsCollisionsTx B/sRx B/sUp Time
WANLink Up1071927510385901845078445002:31:54
LAN1Link Down------------
LAN2Link Down------------
LAN3Link Down------------
LAN4Link Down------------
LAN52.5G/Full21024379301023789228902:32:35
2.4G WLAN b/g/n/ax1200M18048833654416276670616502:32:44
5G WLAN a/n/ac/ax4800M7345502494750347562733202:32:43

 

 

 

 

Message 8 of 19
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

I see your connecting at 2.5Gb on the multi gig port. Thats good. 

 

I see lots of Criticals.

Was the modem rebooted recently before taking the Event log capture? 

Criticals, Errors or Warnings seen in the Event logs indicate a signal problem on the ISP and modem side. The ISP needs to review this and resolve them. 

 

 

Message 9 of 19
AndrewD0318
Aspirant

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

It's been rebooted several times. I will reach out to XF. Thank you.

Message 10 of 19
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

Should be getting higher speeds thru the Multigig port with a ethernet connected PC. Even with connecting to the 1Gb ports in back, you should see over 900Mpbs. 

Try a different PC to compare. 

 

Let us know how it goes. 

Message 11 of 19
AndrewD0318
Aspirant

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

It's definitely on the XF side. Speed test within NG app is only showing 370/5 D/U

Message 12 of 19
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

Keep on them. 

Message 13 of 19
AndrewD0318
Aspirant

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

They ran a test on their side and saw something, a tech is going to be here this afternoon.

Message 14 of 19
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

👍

Message 15 of 19
AndrewD0318
Aspirant

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

Yesterday was a journey. Three calls with their "special" tech support, what they said it was, the netgear modem doesn't have a phone jack, as I had one of those "bundled" packages with a phone, it was erroring out on things because it was looking for the phone hardware... ok.....

So they reset my service (removing the phone part), THEN, dropped the "oh, you can only have the 2 gigabit service on a retail modem" on me (after 90 minutes on the call). So I reluctantly went back to the 1.2 (which should be 1.5 actual) as that was the highest they DO support on an owned modem.

End result? Still at 600/5 U/D. Tech is supposed to be here this afternoon, although I'm not real sure what they'll be able to do here, as this is 100% switch side on their part. Maybe they have a magic wand, or they're a which doctor. I guess we'll see.

This has been a hell of a week.

Message 16 of 19
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

Ya the modem doesn't support a phone jack. LOL

 

Ok, have them check the logs while they are there so they can see. 

 

Hopefully they can get it working. 

 

Keep us posted.

Message 17 of 19
AndrewD0318
Aspirant

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

I am now (at least) getting 1.3 down, and 40 up (the up is a little short) over LAN, and wifi, to the phone, and the dell laptop in the other room. 

I did read somewhere that if they change the service/you change the modem, it could take a while for it all to catch up (?), but it's definitely close to what it should be.

I called about the tech visit this morning, they apparently canceled the appointment last night because "it works now".

 

 

I'll give it some more "soak time" to see if the upload comes around, but it's at least (more than) functional for work use now. The 1-5Mb upload the last couple of days was not enhancing my calm.

Message 18 of 19
FURRYe38
Guru

Re: CAX80 Not Getting Plan Speed

Good to hear. ISP found something. 

 

Ya, there is a beta FW that fixes the 5Ghz Upload issue. Something you could ask NG support about if you feel the need. 

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