Using a hard disk enclosure with 2 hd inside

[Blue-Apple]

Is it possible to connect a hard drive enclosure (Yottomaster) directly into the router?  Currently with 2 but eventually up to 4 hard drives  using one of the USB 3 sockets .  I've been trying all day and I can only get one any one to show up on both of my pcs at any one time.

[michaelkenward]

---

wrote:

Is it possible to connect a hard drive enclosure (Yottomaster) directly into the router? 

---

From past discussions here, the answer is no. 

ReadyShare is really only good for standard USB drives that do not require drivers or stuff in Windows, for example. Even then some USB drives that don't play nicely, especially bigger ones.

Check this list:

ReadySHARE USB Drives Compatibility List | Answer | NETGEAR Support

Probably not complete or up to date, but the best you'll get from Netgear.

The only way to do what you want may be to use proper Ethernet NAS drive that can connect to a LAN port on the router.

[antinode]

> a hard drive enclosure (Yottomaster)

   An actual model number would be more helpful than that.

> [...] Currently with 2 but eventually up to 4 hard drives  using one
> of the USB 3 sockets .

   Various reports here suggest that any use of a USB hub defeats the
Netgear ReadySHARE hardware/firmware.  If your box has one USB
connection for multiple disk drives, then I'd guess that it presents
them as multiple USB devices behind a USB hub.  (I wouldn't try to guess
whether that's a real or a virtual USB hub, but it probably wouldn't
matter.)

> ReadyShare is really only good for standard USB drives that do not
> require drivers or stuff in Windows [...]

   It seems not to be a question of "drivers" for the drives, for
Windows (or any other OS), rather, support (at some level) for USB hubs.

[Blue-Apple]

Thanks Michael.   The enclosure did not come with any drivers etc and didn't seem to load any when I tried it with the pc.  Both the routers are a maker that appeared in that list Seagate but they might not be a model no listed. Both 2Tb.  I did get the feeling that it only wanted to look at one  at a time I did get a readyshare option which had music files and then a USB option that had a very small partition of about 80meg with a .flg file which may have been part of the total disk on that one. It did absolutly nothing with the 2nd hd till I removed the 1st and pluged the 2nd back in.  I just have to use them via the pc.

But this askes a slightly different question.  Can I plug 2 seperate routers in both usb sockets and will it see both. I don't have an enclosure for them and don't want to buy any more.

[Blue-Apple]

thanks Antinode  looks like I'm on a loser here then.  I'm new to NAS etc and was not sure if thats was worth the money for wahat I wanted.

[michaelkenward]

---

 

But this askes a slightly different question.  Can I plug 2 seperate routers in both usb sockets and will it see both. I don't have an enclosure for them and don't want to buy any more.

---

If you mean plug 2 separate usb drives, one into each port, the answer is yes. I do it all the time.

But the drives have to use a standard format, like NTFS.

[antinode]

> > a hard drive enclosure (Yottomaster)
>
>    An actual model number would be more helpful than that.

> [...] The enclosure [...]

   Not an improvement.  What, exactly, is this thing?

> [...] the routers are a maker that appeared in that list Seagate [...]

   "disk drive" and "router" are two different things, and I'm easily
confused.

> [...] they might not be a model no listed.

   What are the actual disk drive models?

   Are all your device model numbers secrets?  If not, then please share
some basic information.  No one here knows what these devices are, and,
so far, the guesses don't seem to be very good.

[antinode]

> The D7000 [...] is NOT a NAS.

   Nonsense.  Network-attached storage is exactly what you get when a
storage device is attached to a network, and the D7000 (with a disk
drive) can do that.  It may not do it very well.  The software hardly
works, it has no RAID capability, and it's relatively slow.

   A Subaru 360 Deluxe was not a very good car, but it was still a car.
Claiming otherwise is simply foolish.

[antinode]

> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network-attached_storage

   What's your point?  That the picture of the Netgear router on the
Wikipedia page for "Network-attached storage" is an example of "NOT a
NAS"?  I don't remember anyone saying that it's a _dedicated_ NAS.

[antinode]

> [...] I have read enough of your post to know not to get involved in
> your game of "Prosecuting Attorney". [...]

   _My_ game?  And yet, ...

> [...] does that classify them as a NAS, certainly not.

   Obviously, it does.  When storage is attached to a network, it's
network-attached storage.  How can I say that?  In the words of the late
Senator Sam Ervin, "Because I understand the English language. It's my
mother tongue."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/articles/4tQgNC61dQWRns44h61Vct8/senator-sam-ervin

[antinode]

> You just love this....

   What I don't love are silly postings by self-appointed "experts"
which waste everyone's time by "correcting" people when they make
perfectly clear statements which don't conform to those "experts'"
quirky definitions of otherwise useful technical terms.

   It's hard enough to get clear problem descriptions in these forums
without adding to the difficulty with such clutter.  Just one man's
opinion.

[Blue-Apple]

Looks like this has been busy in the night. It's also the first time I've ever posted on any forum too!

I think Michael has probably hit the nail on the head with his answers, but as others are also trying to help.

The Yottomaster is a PS40003.  I don't think it is a true NAS (remember I'm just a beginner in this) But it must have some limited capability and might be turning out to be a bad buy for what I hoped it would do.

The 2 hard drives are:-

Hitachi D575AD200 2TB  and Seagate ST2000DM001 2TB

They both work individually when plugged into the Yottamaster but when plugged in together (in the Yottamaster) it will only display one of them in windows explorer (W10)  So I don't think there is an issue with the actual drives.

[antinode]

> The Yottomaster is a PS40003.

   Really?  Even spelling "yottamaster" correctly, Google said:

      Your search - yottamaster ps40003 - did not match any documents.

> [...] I don't think it is a true NAS [...]

   If all it has is a USB interface, then, by itself, it probably
doesn't qualify as a network-anything.  I assume that it's a low-budget
disk enclosure of some kind, but all I know is what you and Google said,
which is not much.  I claim that you could call a D7000 with any kind of
storage connected to it an NAS, but if the D7000 will see only one disk
in this thing, then it may not be of much use to you.

   It might be interesting to connect it (with two drives installed)
directly to a Windows system, wake up a Device Manager with View >
"Devices by connection", and see if you can find the disks in the USB
device tree(s).  Then see if any hub devices come along with the disks
(and disappear when the enclosure is disconnected).  I know nothing,
but, as I said earlier, someone else suggested that these routers do not
cope well when a hub comes between themselves and a disk drive.  If
Windows Device Manager shows you a hub in this gizmo, then that would
seem to be consistent with the Hubs-Cause-Trouble hypothesis.

[michaelkenward]

---

wrote:

The D7000 is a Router and ...

---

More accurately it is a modem/router. But in this context there is little difference.

[Blue-Apple]

This is how it was described by Amazon - it's no longer avaliable but I only bought it a few weeks ago.

Yottamaster Aluminum Alloy 4 Bay 3.5 inch USB3.0 External Hard Drive Enclosure SATA3.0 Desktop Suppo...

it does not include RAID

There are absolutly no markings on the case at all.  I deduced from the chinese written, all models handbook, that by size alone they refer to it as model PS400U3 (sorry I put an exta 0 instead of the U) I googled it too and nothing comes up with that model number.

by the way also forgot to say the HD's are both NTFS basic discs

[michaelkenward]

Is this supposed to make two drives look like a single USB drive?

That link goes to something that clearly says "USB3.0 RAID" and "Supports RAID 0 / 1 / 3 / 5 / 10 / JBOD/ CLONE Raid array modes". Maybe it is a different model.

[Blue-Apple]

Hi Michael

Glad I'm not the only one confused :-}  Yes it now links to a RAID model, mine looks the same but without RAID.  It looks like my exact model has now been discontinued.  The link I put up was from my original Amazon order but it does take you to a different, newer? model.

It has just the one USB output but appears on my pc as 2 different drives.

I was hoping it would appear like that on both my pc's via the D7000.  But from what you first said I think you have confirmed my suspission that the router is not able to do that.  I've just bought a stand alone new HD so I can use the 2nd usb on the router.  The Yottamaster seemed to provide a space and power socket saving sollution and it looks much neater.