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Seagate ST4000VN000 new version

Blues11
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Seagate ST4000VN000 new version

I have a legacy Business Pro ReadyNas that is still working. I want to replace a 3GTB drive with a 4TB drive. There are only three items on the legacy approved list: Seagate, HGST and WD.

 

In the past I've had problems with the WD Reds as well as the HGSTs. The Seagate is the ST4000VN000, but it is no longer a current Seagate model.

 

Has anyone used another 4TB Seagate NAS/Enterprise drive in an old Business Pro? Worked OK? Suggestions?

 

Thank you in advance.

Model: ReadyNAS RNDP6310|ReadyNAS Pro 6
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Sandshark
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Re: Seagate ST4000VN000 new version

I have used WD reds and HGST enterprise drives without issue.  I had some Seagate (non-enterprise) drives that were on the HCL that were nothing but trouble.  The HCL for the legacy products has not been updated in a very long time.  Just look at the list for a similar current NAS for an idea of what will work.  I've not tried the Seagate IronWolf line, but many swear by them.  HGST also now has a NAS line.

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Blues11
Luminary

Re: Seagate ST4000VN000 new version

Sandshark, thank you for the response. It's a testament to this Netgear box that it's still working (with the latest ReadyNAS OS!) 8 years after purchase. I would not expect Netgear to continue to evaluate drives for such an old server.

 

I know that everyone has had different experiences with the few big drive manufacturers. Yours and mine appear to be contrary to one another. In fact, for a single drive (either in a PC or MacPro or an external drive case) I've had better experiences with WD than Seagate.

 

I thought someone might have a specific recommendation, but I'll look at drives on the current HCL list. I also have a ReadyNAS516, so perhaps something on that list will work in the old NAS and if/when it dies it could be repurposed for the newer one.

 

Again, thanks for taking the time to provide to your insight.

Model: ReadyNAS RNDP6310|ReadyNAS Pro 6
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StephenB
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Re: Seagate ST4000VN000 new version

FWIW, I use WDC Reds in all my x86 NAS (Pro-6, RN524x, RN526x).  Red Pro or Gold might be faster (particularly browsing large directories), but I find the performance of the Reds to be more than enough for my home NAS and I like having the lower drive temps.  My pro-6 uses WD30EFRX - five of them have > 40K hours on them, the sixth has ~27K hours.  

 

I have a few 1 TB IronWolf drives (which I was given).  They are in two small NAS I use only for testing (an RN102 and RN202).  They have worked out well, though I don't have as much experience with them, and I haven't had them long enough to have an opinion on their reliability.  Like the WDC Reds, they run cool and are accoustically quiet.  Some have found the larger Ironwolf to be noisy (though my impression is that was a firmware issue that Seagate has corrected).

 

If you go with larger sizes (> 4 TB) you should research the mounting holes on the disks before purchase - many are using "alternative mounting points" now, which aren't aligned to the mounting holes on the bottom of the Pro's disk trays.  Generally you can still use them, since one pair of holes is aligned.

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BotanyBay
Tutor

Re: Seagate ST4000VN000 new version

Are you running OS 4 or os 6 for your operating system?

 

If OS4 the expansion limits will have an impact on how large a drive you could use (i.e. beyond 4), however, I am having great success (knock on wood) with the 10TB Ironwolf line. If I were using smaller Ironwolf drives I would strongly consider the "Pro" series as they have additional monitoring and enhancements which only show up in the base Ironwolf drives at the 10TB point.

Model: ReadyNAS RNDP6000|ReadyNAS Pro 6 Chassis only
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BotanyBay
Tutor

Re: Seagate ST4000VN000 new version

Seeing somewhat higher LCC on these drives than I was originally reporting. With about 600 hours on the drives I am seeing about 3k - 5k of total LCC.  That is about 8.3/hour on average. That will hit the 600K lifetime value at 72000hrs or about 8.22 years if left running continuously so I am not concerned but it is higher by about a factor of two than I was reporting previously.

Model: RN626X | ReadyNAS 626X 6-Bay with Intel® Xeon® Quad-Core Server Processor
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