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Wifi in large house /garden - rax200, AX8, orbi, ...

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Wifi in large house /garden - rax200, AX8, orbi, ...

Hi,

 

I have today Nighthawk R7000.

I want to deploy wifi in my large house and in garden.

 

I have already a gigibit fiber (with a router) and behind a firewall.

The firewall is the entry point in house.

So I don't need a router (not mandatory).

 

What should I do ?

 

- Use RAX200 alone

- Use RAX200 with Orbi or AX8 ?
- Just use 1 or several Orbi

- Just use AX8 

or ?

 

Best regards.

Xavier

 

 

 

Model: RAX200|Nighthawk Tri-band AX12 12-Stream Wi-Fi 6 Router, RAX80|Nighthawk AX8 8-Stream WiFi Router
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Re: Wifi in large house /garden - rax200, AX8, orbi, ...

Saying you have a large house doesn't tell us much.

What size house?

What material is the house? brick, concrete, plaster lathe, foil lined insulation, adobe all do great jobs of blocking signals.

How far is your garden away? 

 

The AX spec didn't add much for distance to the specs. What I mean is the coverage is roughly the same (a little better but not huge) but it has better capacity for running multiple devices concurrently. so you're not going to get a whole lot more range going from the R7000 to the RAX200. A mesh system is nice as it allows you to add satellites as needed to expand your range and it does it all with seamless integration. 

Current Setup: CM2000-> SXK30-> GS716v2-> Arris W31 x2-> Pi-hole->
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Re: Wifi in large house /garden - rax200, AX8, orbi, ...

Hi,

 

The house is made with hollow block.

The size is around 15 m x 10 with 2 levels.

 

The garden is aroud. Up to 10 meters around.

I agree satellites could be the answer.
So do yI need to take wifi 6 router and orbi or ax8 ?
Or directly several ax8 or orbi ?

 

Xavier

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Re: Wifi in large house /garden - rax200, AX8, orbi, ...


@xmillies wrote:

Hi,

 

The house is made with hollow block.

The size is around 15 m x 10 with 2 levels.

 

The garden is aroud. Up to 10 meters around.

I agree satellites could be the answer.
So do yI need to take wifi 6 router and orbi or ax8 ?
Or directly several ax8 or orbi ?

 

Xavier


Hollow cinder block? aka concrete/cement block? It does a great job of blocking wifi. Even if you go mesh, many have reported issues because the material blocks the wifi backhaul. This'll be the same with wireless AX as well. 

You probably going to need to play around a little to figure out which system is right for you. I can't say which is going to work the best as I'm not at your location to test/setup. 

Current Setup: CM2000-> SXK30-> GS716v2-> Arris W31 x2-> Pi-hole->
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Re: Wifi in large house /garden - rax200, AX8, orbi, ...

Hi,

The brick is like this one:

https://media.castorama.fr/is/image/Castorama/3661216103502_01c

 

The idea could to put orbi or ax in the roof on the extremities for instance (2 or 4).

It should work.
Actually i have a Nighthawk 7000 for the wifi. We can get wfif quite almost everywhere in the house (sometimes low level).

The recommandation is AX8 or orbi ? What are the differences ? 

 

Xavier

 

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Re: Wifi in large house /garden - rax200, AX8, orbi, ...

AX8 isn't a mesh system.  It is the next gen wifi but is a single routing device.

If you're wanting multiple access points I'd go an Orbi setup. It allows you to add on satellites for additional coverage and even has the option of an outdoor satellite. RBS50Y   There is the option of Orbi AX which is their newest orbi setup running the AX specs. Its quite expensive though. 

Current Setup: CM2000-> SXK30-> GS716v2-> Arris W31 x2-> Pi-hole->
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Re: Wifi in large house /garden - rax200, AX8, orbi, ...

Yes, Netgear Orbi AX Mesh WiFi (RBK852) is great.
I think this is better than the RAX200 wifi 6 for my use case.

 

Do you agree ? Or RAX 200 and 1 or 2 orbi ?

 

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Re: Wifi in large house /garden - rax200, AX8, orbi, ...

I can't tell you which to get. There's benefits to each and downfalls. You're housing material is going to impact your performance. Unfortunately price also plays a factor. The latest and greats is going to cost a lot more and might not work as well. Supposedly the RBK852 (with one satellite) provides the coverage as the RBK53 (with 2 satellites). this might be true but the extra satellite might function better with your housing materials. 

The rbk852 looks great.  I've also never used it and I'm unsure of how the firmware functions being this new and still in draft specifications. 

I've used the RBK53 system with 3 satellites and had great coverage. 

So again, I can't tell you what to get. 

Current Setup: CM2000-> SXK30-> GS716v2-> Arris W31 x2-> Pi-hole->
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Re: Wifi in large house /garden - rax200, AX8, orbi, ...

I understand the solution is satellite.


I like to have one wifi (SSID) and change transparent when moving in the house.

I want also support many devices / IOT.

In my house all satellite would be connected with a wire to Internet.

Orbi wifi 6 will be mayabe overkill if all are connected by wire ?

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