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Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

rgautier
Apprentice

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

BAH! -- Contact Netgear support?  But it's been 90 days...I'm not paying them to get support for their firmware flaws.

 

I'm posting in the forums to try to get some assistance and visibility into the issue.  If you're not having DNS issues, you may not have 20+ devices of various flavors, be using guest networks, or just don't realize it because you're used to having your devices disconnect for 3 seconds every 20 minutes.  With the Nighthawk, it never had these issues...and I'd go back to it if it did Wifi6 and mesh.  

 

I'd love to prove my point, but the logging available to me doesn't tell me anything and someone turned off the ability to telnet into the device to get the proof.

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

Try contacting a forum moderator to see what options you have. 

 

Try loading v11.2 FW, it still has telnet featured there. Or download the telnet enabler from the web. 

 

IF you feel your NH router works for you, why not use it has your main host router and configure the Orbi AX for AP mode. 

 

Actually I have 30+ devices on my system. 

 

Good Luck. 

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msinex
Apprentice

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

I'm still having the same intermittent issues with DNS errors despite starting from scratch and trying the workarounds.  It seems to help to load DNS servers directly to those machines I can.  I do have a very large network running (60+ devices running, combination of wired and wireless), but didn't have any issue with my old Nighthawk either.  Maybe the DNS issues only come up with large networks?

 

Is there any way to get this highlighted to Netgear without having to purchase a service contract?

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

Contact a forum moderator about this directly...

What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?

@Blanca_O 


@msinex wrote:

I'm still having the same intermittent issues with DNS errors despite starting from scratch and trying the workarounds.  It seems to help to load DNS servers directly to those machines I can.  I do have a very large network running (60+ devices running, combination of wired and wireless), but didn't have any issue with my old Nighthawk either.  Maybe the DNS issues only come up with large networks?

 

Is there any way to get this highlighted to Netgear without having to purchase a service contract?


 

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filmnikon
Aspirant

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

I'm still having the same intermittent issues with DNS errors despite starting from scratch and trying the workarounds.  It seems to help to load DNS servers directly to those machines I can.  I do have a very large network running (60+ devices running, combination of wired and wireless), but didn't have any issue with my old Nighthawk either.  Maybe the DNS issues only come up with large networks?


I am having EXACTLY the same problem!  I assumed for a while it was something else and over time have eliminated every other possible problem in my system.  I have configured my RBR850 (with 2 satellites) in multiple configurations, reset things, tried different DNS servers, and so forth--and I still have these intermittent issues with DNS.

 

This is not just annoying because sometimes there is an app or website that needs to make a call to another website as part of purchasing something, or signing up for an account, or another important website like that.  One example is Ebay.  I can be in the middle of trying to list something to sell, and one random part of the selling flow fails to load due to this intermittent DNS issue.  If I reload the page it will work, but this can mess up an account creation or purchase if the Javascript on the page is trying to load something else in a frame/etc.

 

What have folks tried as far as contactin Netgear?  Should I call customer support (if it will help)?  Thanks for any advice!

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?


@filmnikon wrote:

 

I am having EXACTLY the same problem!  I assumed for a while it was something else and over time have eliminated every other possible problem in my system.  I have configured my RBR850 (with 2 satellites) in multiple configurations, reset things, tried different DNS servers, and so forth--and I still have these intermittent issues with DNS.

 

This is not just annoying because sometimes there is an app or website that needs to make a call to another website as part of purchasing something, or signing up for an account, or another important website like that.  One example is Ebay.  I can be in the middle of trying to list something to sell, and one random part of the selling flow fails to load due to this intermittent DNS issue.  If I reload the page it will work, but this can mess up an account creation or purchase if the Javascript on the page is trying to load something else in a frame/etc.

 

What have folks tried as far as contactin Netgear?  Should I call customer support (if it will help)?  Thanks for any advice!


 

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filmnikon
Aspirant

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues


@FURRYe38 wrote:

What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?



Hello there, I am on the latest firmware: Firmware Version V3.2.16.6_1.4.4.  I have Comcast for cable internet, and I use the ARRIS - SURFboard 32 x 8 DOCSIS 3.1 Cable Modem (Model SB8200).

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last FW update? 

 

What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.

 

What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?

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filmnikon
Aspirant

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues


@FURRYe38 wrote:

Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last FW update? 

 

What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet or more is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.

 

What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?


Hi Furry, if you have evidence to believe that a factory reset will help, I can do that--I have seen here in the forums that it hasn't worked for others.  Let me know if it's a shot in the dark, or something that has worked in the past.

 

Size of home: ~4,000 sq feet.  Router and satellite 1 are probably about 50 feet apart.  Router and satellite 2 are about 75 feet apart.  2.4GHz channel is set to Auto, and 5GHz channel is set to 48.  Yes I have neighbors, maybe 50 feet between our houses.

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

Has one ever been done on your system? Same with the modem, power OFF for 30 seconds then back ON.
Does this DNS error appear if you turn OFF all RBS and just work with the RBR alone? 

 

Do you happen to see these errors if you connect 1 wired PC to the ISP modem? Do you still have this SB8200 modem? 


@filmnikon wrote:


Hi Furry, if you have evidence to believe that a factory reset will help, I can do that--I have seen here in the forums that it hasn't worked for others.  Let me know if it's a shot in the dark, or something that has worked in the past.

 

Size of home: ~4,000 sq feet.  Router and satellite 1 are probably about 50 feet apart.  Router and satellite 2 are about 75 feet apart.  2.4GHz channel is set to Auto, and 5GHz channel is set to 48.  Yes I have neighbors, maybe 50 feet between our houses.


 

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filmnikon
Aspirant

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues


@FURRYe38 wrote:

Has one ever been done on your system? Same with the modem, power OFF for 30 seconds then back ON.
Does this DNS error appear if you turn OFF all RBS and just work with the RBR alone? 

Do you happen to see these errors if you connect 1 wired PC to the ISP modem? Do you still have this SB8200 modem? 


My system is brand new, and this has been occuring since I installed it a few weeks ago.  I thought it was temporary but since it kept happening now for a few weeks, I decided to do some research and found that it has been reported my other people as well.

 

I do not still have the SB8200 modem, no.  Also connecting directly to the ISP modem does not exhibit this problem, although it is intermittent and so a little hard to determine I will admit, but didn't see it in that configuration.

 

Thanks!

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?


@filmnikon wrote:


My system is brand new, and this has been occuring since I installed it a few weeks ago.  I thought it was temporary but since it kept happening now for a few weeks, I decided to do some research and found that it has been reported my other people as well.

 

I do not still have the SB8200 modem, no.  Also connecting directly to the ISP modem does not exhibit this problem, although it is intermittent and so a little hard to determine I will admit, but didn't see it in that configuration.

 

Thanks!


 

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Ace321
Apprentice

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

@filmnikon @msinex 

 

This is a know issue with Orbi AX4200. Lot of people are haviong these issues. I have tried vatious soutions and nothing worked. I even replaced with a new device from Costco and that did not help either. There are sime people who did not have this issue but others continue to have this issue. Basically it requires a firmware fix which hasn't come from Netgear yet. Netgear is for some reason not acknleding this issue. I have provide logs etc to NG with no resolution. My ticket is waiting in Netgear queue for several days. Community moderator tried helping to expedite my ticket with no luck. Only solution for now is to set static DNS in each PC.

 

Also, one of the user proved firmware issue by telneting and fixing this. If you want, you can try that solution by @Retired_Member in the following thread.

 

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-AX/DNS-errors-RBK753/m-p/1962412

 

 

 

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

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Ace321
Apprentice

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

@FURRYe38  Thanks. I will try and report back.

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

Smiley Wink

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Mikey94025
Hero

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues


@FURRYe38 wrote:

@msinex @Ace321 @filmnikon @rgautier @arlomike @Blanca_O 

New FW however nothing mentioned about DNS issues. Maybe something to try:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi-AX/New-Firmware-Out-Today/td-p/2005684/jump-to/first-unread-me...


I just upgraded to V3.2.16.22_1.4.9 and soon encountered the intermittent DNS issue, so doesn't appear fixed for me.  I have a browser bookmark for this forum and when I visit it, intermittently see a Netgear "authentication failed" page instead of the list of discussions.  I believe this intermittent behavior corresponds to the intermittent DNS issue.  I also see various browser links fail, or retry and then succeed, due to this issue.

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

Has a factory reset and setup from scratch been performed since last FW update? 


@Mikey94025 wrote:


I just upgraded to V3.2.16.22_1.4.9 and soon encountered the intermittent DNS issue, so doesn't appear fixed for me.  I have a browser bookmark for this forum and when I visit it, intermittently see a Netgear "authentication failed" page instead of the list of discussions.  I believe this intermittent behavior corresponds to the intermittent DNS issue.  I also see various browser links fail, or retry and then succeed, due to this issue.


 

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rgautier
Apprentice

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

Running on the latest firmware, I performed a factory reset and spent 20 minutes setting up the device again. Still getting DNS_PROBE_FAILED_NXDOMAIN failures on Chrome using the Orbit for DNS. Still getting app failures. Did NOT enable Armor during setup.

So, latest firmware with factory reset...no dice.
Model: RBR50|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi Router
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rgautier
Apprentice

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

Just logged into the App to see that Armor enabled itself after the install...was getting notifications on connecting devices. Had to disable it again. I KNOW I didn't enable it during the reconfiguration (rather purposefully!!!) so something is wonky as hell.
Model: RBR50|Orbi AC3000 Tri-band WiFi Router
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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

So after a reset and walking thru the setup wizard and not selecting to enable Armor, Armor was enabled anyways? 

 

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seantrow
Aspirant

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

Just another data point - I have a new RBK753S system, and am also experiencing the intermittent DNS error issue.  I've tried using both ISP and Google DNS servers and it doesn't seem to affect anything.

 

Sean

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FURRYe38
Guru

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

What Firmware version is currently loaded?
What is the Mfr and model# of the Internet Service Providers modem/ONT the NG router is connected too?

 


@seantrow wrote:

Just another data point - I have a new RBK753S system, and am also experiencing the intermittent DNS error issue.  I've tried using both ISP and Google DNS servers and it doesn't seem to affect anything.

 

Sean


 

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seantrow
Aspirant

Re: Intermittent DNS Errors and WiFi Issues

Firmware is V3.2.16.6_1.4.4.  

I have an Arris SB6183 connected to comcast.

I'm using wired backhaul for both satelltes. 

 

 

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