Re: Orbi RBR50 is not supporting 900Mb+- on the WAN to LAN test

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-04

So I'd like to call NG's attention to the following test results for Orbi RBR50. I'm not seeing anything near 900mbps on the WAN to LAN test. Using both iPerf and Duckwares simple WAN to LAN test program between two LAN connected PCs and a Gb LAN switch.

Seems like the HW NAT accelleration or Cut-Through that should be working on this router, isn't.

Orbi RBR50 - Latest v60 FW:

Duckwares Results
BPS=379,085,568
0: 45,480,970 (363,847,760 bps)
1: 46,137,431 (369,099,448 bps)
2: 45,901,923 (367,215,384 bps)
3: 46,413,271 (371,306,168 bps)
4: 46,279,502 (370,236,016 bps)
5: 46,906,546 (375,252,368 bps)
6: 49,716,277 (397,730,216 bps)
7: 48,272,090 (386,176,720 bps)
8: 47,023,500 (376,188,000 bps)
9: 47,393,911 (379,151,288 bps)
10: 47,234,467 (377,875,736 bps)
11: 49,368,917 (394,951,336 bps)
12: 46,834,206 (374,673,648 bps)
13: 47,106,549 (376,852,392 bps)
14: 46,815,204 (374,521,632 bps)
15: 46,992,868 (375,942,944 bps)
16: 47,538,719 (380,309,752 bps)
17: 47,853,745 (382,829,960 bps)
18: 47,854,278 (382,834,224 bps)
19: 48,682,412 (389,459,296 bps)

iPerf Results
1 Stream
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 0.00-1.11 sec 11.5 MBytes 87.1 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 1.11-2.15 sec 15.9 MBytes 128 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 2.15-3.32 sec 14.0 MBytes 101 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 3.32-4.34 sec 24.2 MBytes 199 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 4.34-5.37 sec 18.2 MBytes 148 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 5.37-6.38 sec 24.2 MBytes 203 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 6.38-7.50 sec 30.5 MBytes 227 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 7.50-8.50 sec 33.2 MBytes 278 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 8.50-9.50 sec 33.8 MBytes 283 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 9.50-10.51 sec 25.1 MBytes 210 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 10.51-11.51 sec 43.0 MBytes 360 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 11.51-12.51 sec 33.2 MBytes 278 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 12.51-13.52 sec 16.0 MBytes 133 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 13.52-14.67 sec 30.9 MBytes 225 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 14.67-15.68 sec 16.1 MBytes 135 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 15.68-16.83 sec 31.6 MBytes 230 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 16.83-17.83 sec 23.9 MBytes 200 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 17.83-19.03 sec 24.6 MBytes 172 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 19.03-20.15 sec 26.9 MBytes 201 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 20.15-21.20 sec 17.6 MBytes 141 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 21.20-22.37 sec 41.0 MBytes 294 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 22.37-23.37 sec 16.5 MBytes 138 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 23.37-24.38 sec 25.6 MBytes 211 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 24.38-25.40 sec 25.5 MBytes 211 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 25.40-26.43 sec 26.6 MBytes 216 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 26.43-27.54 sec 20.6 MBytes 157 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 27.54-28.56 sec 9.25 MBytes 76.0 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 28.56-29.56 sec 17.2 MBytes 145 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
Sent
[ 5] 0.00-30.19 sec 694 MBytes 193 Mbits/sec
Received
[ 5] 0.00-30.19 sec 694 MBytes 193 Mbits/sec

4 Stream
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 0.00-1.00 sec 9.00 MBytes 75.4 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 0.00-1.00 sec 8.88 MBytes 74.3 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 0.00-1.00 sec 8.88 MBytes 74.3 Mbits/sec
[ 8] 0.00-1.00 sec 8.88 MBytes 74.3 Mbits/sec
[SUM] 0.00-1.00 sec 35.6 MBytes 298 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 1.00-2.03 sec 2.38 MBytes 19.3 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 1.00-2.03 sec 2.38 MBytes 19.3 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 1.00-2.03 sec 2.38 MBytes 19.3 Mbits/sec
[ 8] 1.00-2.03 sec 2.38 MBytes 19.3 Mbits/sec
[SUM] 1.00-2.03 sec 35.6 MBytes 290 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 2.03-3.05 sec 2.50 MBytes 20.6 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 2.03-3.05 sec 2.62 MBytes 21.6 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 2.03-3.05 sec 2.62 MBytes 21.6 Mbits/sec
[ 8] 2.03-3.05 sec 2.50 MBytes 20.6 Mbits/sec
[SUM] 2.03-3.05 sec 35.6 MBytes 293 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 3.05-4.05 sec 4.62 MBytes 38.8 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 3.05-4.05 sec 4.62 MBytes 38.8 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 3.05-4.05 sec 4.62 MBytes 38.8 Mbits/sec
[ 8] 3.05-4.05 sec 4.62 MBytes 38.8 Mbits/sec
[SUM] 3.05-4.05 sec 35.6 MBytes 299 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
Sent
[ 5] 0.00-30.17 sec 114 MBytes 31.8 Mbits/sec
Received
[ 5] 0.00-30.17 sec 114 MBytes 31.8 Mbits/sec
Sent
[ 6] 0.00-30.17 sec 114 MBytes 31.8 Mbits/sec
Received
[ 6] 0.00-30.17 sec 114 MBytes 31.8 Mbits/sec
Sent
[ 7] 0.00-30.17 sec 114 MBytes 31.8 Mbits/sec
Received
[ 7] 0.00-30.17 sec 114 MBytes 31.8 Mbits/sec
Sent
[ 8] 0.00-30.17 sec 114 MBytes 31.8 Mbits/sec
Received
[ 8] 0.00-30.17 sec 114 MBytes 31.8 Mbits/sec
Total sent
[SUM] 0.00-30.17 sec 457 MBytes 127 Mbits/sec
Total received
[SUM] 0.00-30.17 sec 457 MBytes 127 Mbits/sec

Not much seen over 300Mbps on the RBR.

Seem to get worse after just rebooting the RBR:

Duckwares:

BPS=252,846,640
0: 33,010,037 (264,080,296 bps)
1: 32,264,372 (258,114,976 bps)
2: 31,959,427 (255,675,416 bps)
3: 31,786,507 (254,292,056 bps)
4: 31,493,021 (251,944,168 bps)
5: 32,911,913 (263,295,304 bps)
6: 33,283,991 (266,271,928 bps)
7: 32,346,090 (258,768,720 bps)
8: 32,035,625 (256,285,000 bps)
9: 32,251,427 (258,011,416 bps)
10: 32,798,027 (262,384,216 bps)
11: 25,777,730 (206,221,840 bps)
12: 32,136,711 (257,093,688 bps)
13: 31,969,896 (255,759,168 bps)
14: 31,856,252 (254,850,016 bps)
15: 25,308,603 (202,468,824 bps)
16: 33,859,454 (270,875,632 bps)
17: 32,331,865 (258,654,920 bps)
18: 31,922,904 (255,383,232 bps)
19: 32,222,876 (257,783,008 bps)

iPerf

[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 0.00-1.07 sec 3.50 MBytes 27.5 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 0.00-1.07 sec 3.50 MBytes 27.5 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 0.00-1.07 sec 3.50 MBytes 27.5 Mbits/sec
[ 8] 0.00-1.07 sec 3.50 MBytes 27.5 Mbits/sec
[SUM] 0.00-1.07 sec 14.0 MBytes 110 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 1.07-2.07 sec 2.00 MBytes 16.8 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 1.07-2.07 sec 2.00 MBytes 16.8 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 1.07-2.07 sec 1.88 MBytes 15.7 Mbits/sec
[ 8] 1.07-2.07 sec 1.88 MBytes 15.7 Mbits/sec
[SUM] 1.07-2.07 sec 14.0 MBytes 117 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
[ 5] 2.07-3.10 sec 2.50 MBytes 20.4 Mbits/sec
[ 6] 2.07-3.10 sec 2.50 MBytes 20.4 Mbits/sec
[ 7] 2.07-3.10 sec 2.62 MBytes 21.4 Mbits/sec
[ 8] 2.07-3.10 sec 2.50 MBytes 20.4 Mbits/sec
[SUM] 2.07-3.10 sec 14.0 MBytes 114 Mbits/sec
[ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
Sent
[ 5] 0.00-30.18 sec 89.6 MBytes 24.9 Mbits/sec
Received
[ 5] 0.00-30.18 sec 89.6 MBytes 24.9 Mbits/sec
Sent
[ 6] 0.00-30.18 sec 89.6 MBytes 24.9 Mbits/sec
Received
[ 6] 0.00-30.18 sec 89.6 MBytes 24.9 Mbits/sec
Sent
[ 7] 0.00-30.18 sec 89.6 MBytes 24.9 Mbits/sec
Received
[ 7] 0.00-30.18 sec 89.6 MBytes 24.9 Mbits/sec
Sent
[ 8] 0.00-30.18 sec 89.6 MBytes 24.9 Mbits/sec
Received
[ 8] 0.00-30.18 sec 89.6 MBytes 24.9 Mbits/sec
Total sent
[SUM] 0.00-30.18 sec 358 MBytes 99.7 Mbits/sec
Total received
[SUM] 0.00-30.18 sec 358 MBytes 99.7 Mbits/sec

I have a NG XR450 that supports 900Mpbs on his WAN port

XR450 and Duckware

BPS=948,560,264
0: 119,092,966 (952,743,728 bps)
1: 118,633,725 (949,069,800 bps)
2: 118,630,769 (949,046,152 bps)
3: 118,637,969 (949,103,752 bps)
4: 118,634,733 (949,077,864 bps)
5: 118,632,316 (949,058,528 bps)
6: 118,636,228 (949,089,824 bps)
7: 118,635,103 (949,080,824 bps)
8: 118,632,223 (949,057,784 bps)
9: 118,636,316 (949,090,528 bps)
10: 118,633,092 (949,064,736 bps)
11: 117,413,283 (939,306,264 bps)
12: 118,633,534 (949,068,272 bps)
13: 118,634,770 (949,078,160 bps)
14: 118,633,284 (949,066,272 bps)
15: 118,629,720 (949,037,760 bps)
16: 118,639,721 (949,117,768 bps)
17: 118,633,791 (949,070,328 bps)
18: 118,631,266 (949,050,128 bps)
19: 118,639,515 (949,116,120 bps)

A R7800 also tests good for 900mpbs the last time I checked.

The Orbi is factory reset and setup from scratch with no additional configurations. Disney and Armorare not enabled. No RBS were attached. We expect routers that are reset to factory defaults should support 900Mpbs on the WAN port if officially designed and supported by NG.

Seems to point to something in FW possibly as others have also posted about not seeing 900mpbs on there Orbi systems.

Is this speed officially supported on Orbi?

clammerds · ‎2019-07-04

I'd be interested in NG's response here.

To be honest, if there *is* an issue, as long as it's resolved within a reasonable time frame, I'm happy.

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-07

Do you have a 1Gb ISP service line?

@clammerds wrote:
I'd be interested in NG's response here.

To be honest, if there *is* an issue, as long as it's resolved within a reasonable time frame, I'm happy.

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-07

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-RBR-50-internal-speed-check-with-modem-half-the-ISP-speed...

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-11

Ran some WAN to LAN speeds tests with v30 loaded.

Test ran after doing a auto update thru the UI and no factory reset.
Running Speed Test...
BPS=444,701,936
0: 56,719,523 (453,756,184 bps)
1: 55,807,149 (446,457,192 bps)
2: 56,496,749 (451,973,992 bps)
3: 58,399,658 (467,197,264 bps)
4: 55,946,933 (447,575,464 bps)
5: 57,191,873 (457,534,984 bps)
6: 58,758,811 (470,070,488 bps)
7: 55,468,591 (443,748,728 bps)
8: 51,381,228 (411,049,824 bps)
9: 55,574,400 (444,595,200 bps)
10: 55,914,657 (447,317,256 bps)
11: 59,646,114 (477,168,912 bps)
12: 55,303,074 (442,424,592 bps)
13: 51,336,224 (410,689,792 bps)
14: 50,636,556 (405,092,448 bps)
15: 56,181,480 (449,451,840 bps)
16: 55,683,996 (445,471,968 bps)
17: 59,137,625 (473,101,000 bps)
18: 55,705,038 (445,640,304 bps)
19: 51,596,868 (412,774,944 bps)

2nd and subsequent runs...

Running Speed Test...
BPS=358,330,104
0: 41,503,807 (332,030,456 bps)
1: 42,078,387 (336,627,096 bps)
2: 50,804,534 (406,436,272 bps)
3: 57,575,295 (460,602,360 bps)
4: 43,545,600 (348,364,800 bps)
5: 43,661,983 (349,295,864 bps)
6: 43,657,287 (349,258,296 bps)
7: 43,880,868 (351,046,944 bps)
8: 44,011,425 (352,091,400 bps)
9: 44,661,755 (357,294,040 bps)
10: 44,181,916 (353,455,328 bps)
11: 44,165,794 (353,326,352 bps)
12: 44,149,986 (353,199,888 bps)
13: 43,717,175 (349,737,400 bps)
14: 43,639,697 (349,117,576 bps)
15: 43,318,572 (346,548,576 bps)
16: 43,320,026 (346,560,208 bps)
17: 43,791,221 (350,329,768 bps)
18: 43,490,583 (347,924,664 bps)
19: 43,382,087 (347,056,696 bps)

Running Speed Test...
BPS=342,969,568
0: 41,468,825 (331,750,600 bps)
1: 41,248,178 (329,985,424 bps)
2: 40,971,049 (327,768,392 bps)
3: 42,278,189 (338,225,512 bps)
4: 42,029,544 (336,236,352 bps)
5: 41,905,525 (335,244,200 bps)
6: 42,788,585 (342,308,680 bps)
7: 42,709,090 (341,672,720 bps)
8: 43,829,330 (350,634,640 bps)
9: 43,682,628 (349,461,024 bps)
10: 43,081,368 (344,650,944 bps)
11: 41,861,460 (334,891,680 bps)
12: 41,978,212 (335,825,696 bps)
13: 43,190,798 (345,526,384 bps)
14: 43,344,642 (346,757,136 bps)
15: 43,325,433 (346,603,464 bps)
16: 43,310,282 (346,482,256 bps)
17: 44,461,247 (355,689,976 bps)
18: 44,255,468 (354,043,744 bps)
19: 44,301,693 (354,413,544 bps)

Running Speed Test...
BPS=244,102,568
0: 30,532,960 (244,263,680 bps)
1: 32,165,764 (257,326,112 bps)
2: 31,097,598 (248,780,784 bps)
3: 26,976,041 (215,808,328 bps)
4: 26,722,333 (213,778,664 bps)
5: 26,745,762 (213,966,096 bps)
6: 32,088,906 (256,711,248 bps)
7: 31,448,103 (251,584,824 bps)
8: 30,871,822 (246,974,576 bps)
9: 30,790,187 (246,321,496 bps)
10: 30,733,385 (245,867,080 bps)
11: 31,913,807 (255,310,456 bps)
12: 31,517,094 (252,136,752 bps)
13: 30,134,621 (241,076,968 bps)
14: 29,152,885 (233,223,080 bps)
15: 30,829,294 (246,634,352 bps)
16: 32,539,374 (260,314,992 bps)
17: 31,835,401 (254,683,208 bps)
18: 31,162,035 (249,296,280 bps)
19: 31,031,438 (248,251,504 bps)

Running Speed Test...
BPS=342,365,432
0: 37,582,619 (300,660,952 bps)
1: 38,477,507 (307,820,056 bps)
2: 42,505,843 (340,046,744 bps)
3: 42,412,946 (339,303,568 bps)
4: 41,878,725 (335,029,800 bps)
5: 43,137,282 (345,098,256 bps)
6: 43,695,472 (349,563,776 bps)
7: 43,154,726 (345,237,808 bps)
8: 44,239,320 (353,914,560 bps)
9: 43,521,795 (348,174,360 bps)
10: 43,457,467 (347,659,736 bps)
11: 43,595,542 (348,764,336 bps)
12: 43,776,916 (350,215,328 bps)
13: 43,121,249 (344,969,992 bps)
14: 44,404,064 (355,232,512 bps)
15: 41,589,439 (332,715,512 bps)
16: 41,186,681 (329,493,448 bps)
17: 41,226,728 (329,813,824 bps)
18: 43,291,839 (346,334,712 bps)
19: 44,446,588 (355,572,704 bps)

Running Speed Test...
BPS=459,901,816
0: 57,834,393 (462,675,144 bps)
1: 57,981,996 (463,855,968 bps)
2: 57,066,015 (456,528,120 bps)
3: 55,138,301 (441,106,408 bps)
4: 59,563,045 (476,504,360 bps)
5: 58,309,218 (466,473,744 bps)
6: 58,660,583 (469,284,664 bps)
7: 57,616,593 (460,932,744 bps)
8: 49,899,292 (399,194,336 bps)
9: 56,053,203 (448,425,624 bps)
10: 58,125,860 (465,006,880 bps)
11: 58,490,265 (467,922,120 bps)
12: 60,624,956 (484,999,648 bps)
13: 53,097,930 (424,783,440 bps)
14: 56,435,016 (451,480,128 bps)
15: 59,065,738 (472,525,904 bps)
16: 57,856,954 (462,855,632 bps)
17: 61,294,991 (490,359,928 bps)
18: 57,765,120 (462,120,960 bps)
19: 59,236,032 (473,888,256 bps)

Running Speed Test...
BPS=344,107,224
0: 41,714,758 (333,718,064 bps)
1: 41,061,118 (328,488,944 bps)
2: 38,979,347 (311,834,776 bps)
3: 42,238,923 (337,911,384 bps)
4: 43,677,491 (349,419,928 bps)
5: 44,017,626 (352,141,008 bps)
6: 43,862,165 (350,897,320 bps)
7: 43,318,584 (346,548,672 bps)
8: 43,228,835 (345,830,680 bps)
9: 43,485,716 (347,885,728 bps)
10: 43,204,515 (345,636,120 bps)
11: 43,143,916 (345,151,328 bps)
12: 43,285,930 (346,287,440 bps)
13: 41,040,425 (328,323,400 bps)
14: 44,139,230 (353,113,840 bps)
15: 43,805,180 (350,441,440 bps)
16: 44,025,267 (352,202,136 bps)
17: 43,863,365 (350,906,920 bps)
18: 43,804,698 (350,437,584 bps)
19: 43,071,603 (344,572,824 bps)

Running Speed Test...
BPS=463,154,384
0: 59,242,530 (473,940,240 bps)
1: 56,611,267 (452,890,136 bps)
2: 55,244,166 (441,953,328 bps)
3: 52,090,510 (416,724,080 bps)
4: 55,420,047 (443,360,376 bps)
5: 61,431,160 (491,449,280 bps)
6: 58,094,857 (464,758,856 bps)
7: 60,153,264 (481,226,112 bps)
8: 59,419,721 (475,357,768 bps)
9: 54,659,666 (437,277,328 bps)
10: 62,184,951 (497,479,608 bps)
11: 55,026,739 (440,213,912 bps)
12: 54,060,906 (432,487,248 bps)
13: 60,797,037 (486,376,296 bps)
14: 57,881,235 (463,049,880 bps)
15: 62,289,635 (498,317,080 bps)
16: 58,366,493 (466,931,944 bps)
17: 61,514,159 (492,113,272 bps)
18: 59,571,976 (476,575,808 bps)
19: 55,174,320 (441,394,560 bps)

Running Speed Test...
BPS=249,507,152
0: 31,187,203 (249,497,624 bps)
1: 31,275,574 (250,204,592 bps)
2: 32,155,286 (257,242,288 bps)
3: 31,023,572 (248,188,576 bps)
4: 31,059,283 (248,474,264 bps)
5: 31,493,119 (251,944,952 bps)
6: 32,463,408 (259,707,264 bps)
7: 32,189,268 (257,514,144 bps)
8: 31,526,441 (252,211,528 bps)
9: 30,964,876 (247,719,008 bps)
10: 29,793,257 (238,346,056 bps)
11: 32,216,425 (257,731,400 bps)
12: 29,948,398 (239,587,184 bps)
13: 26,695,558 (213,564,464 bps)
14: 31,422,882 (251,383,056 bps)
15: 31,350,230 (250,801,840 bps)
16: 32,564,295 (260,514,360 bps)
17: 31,966,829 (255,734,632 bps)
18: 31,368,502 (250,948,016 bps)
19: 31,079,003 (248,632,024 bps)

Seeing better results than on prior versions of FW. Still not seeing anything near 900Mbps if Orbi is supposed to support 900Mbps.

I'll do a factory reset on the RBR50 and re-test.

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-12

I did a factory reset on the Orbi with v30 loaded, seems better. Still nothing near 900Mbps:

Running Speed Test...
BPS=450,704,936
0: 57,416,932 (459,335,456 bps)
1: 58,937,841 (471,502,728 bps)
2: 56,782,240 (454,257,920 bps)
3: 57,705,369 (461,642,952 bps)
4: 54,976,200 (439,809,600 bps)
5: 57,136,103 (457,088,824 bps)
6: 57,285,137 (458,281,096 bps)
7: 59,298,375 (474,387,000 bps)
8: 55,055,405 (440,443,240 bps)
9: 46,908,128 (375,265,024 bps)
10: 59,262,513 (474,100,104 bps)
11: 49,646,342 (397,170,736 bps)
12: 58,409,790 (467,278,320 bps)
13: 59,118,609 (472,948,872 bps)
14: 56,153,442 (449,227,536 bps)
15: 50,722,976 (405,783,808 bps)
16: 59,463,851 (475,710,808 bps)
17: 55,931,528 (447,452,224 bps)
18: 59,250,683 (474,005,464 bps)
19: 58,378,669 (467,029,352 bps)

Running Speed Test...
BPS=465,141,224
0: 58,070,186 (464,561,488 bps)
1: 61,177,819 (489,422,552 bps)
2: 57,415,053 (459,320,424 bps)
3: 56,170,631 (449,365,048 bps)
4: 57,881,139 (463,049,112 bps)
5: 58,547,256 (468,378,048 bps)
6: 59,261,861 (474,094,888 bps)
7: 60,687,952 (485,503,616 bps)
8: 58,595,341 (468,762,728 bps)
9: 57,554,247 (460,433,976 bps)
10: 52,871,199 (422,969,592 bps)
11: 54,499,345 (435,994,760 bps)
12: 59,971,011 (479,768,088 bps)
13: 59,672,535 (477,380,280 bps)
14: 53,545,251 (428,362,008 bps)
15: 57,925,147 (463,401,176 bps)
16: 59,843,658 (478,749,264 bps)
17: 58,371,348 (466,970,784 bps)
18: 61,979,640 (495,837,120 bps)
19: 58,740,758 (469,926,064 bps)

Running Speed Test...
BPS=246,505,272
0: 31,417,752 (251,342,016 bps)
1: 31,078,469 (248,627,752 bps)
2: 31,161,455 (249,291,640 bps)
3: 31,199,902 (249,599,216 bps)
4: 28,191,649 (225,533,192 bps)
5: 32,025,868 (256,206,944 bps)
6: 31,375,940 (251,007,520 bps)
7: 29,741,379 (237,931,032 bps)
8: 27,877,797 (223,022,376 bps)
9: 28,939,870 (231,518,960 bps)
10: 31,529,168 (252,233,344 bps)
11: 31,084,539 (248,676,312 bps)
12: 31,292,339 (250,338,712 bps)
13: 31,257,859 (250,062,872 bps)
14: 30,924,233 (247,393,864 bps)
15: 31,218,224 (249,745,792 bps)
16: 31,298,168 (250,385,344 bps)
17: 31,251,545 (250,012,360 bps)
18: 31,328,351 (250,626,808 bps)
19: 32,675,400 (261,403,200 bps)

Running Speed Test...
BPS=460,509,208
0: 58,190,271 (465,522,168 bps)
1: 60,270,739 (482,165,912 bps)
2: 58,080,332 (464,642,656 bps)
3: 54,144,605 (433,156,840 bps)
4: 53,222,934 (425,783,472 bps)
5: 58,026,589 (464,212,712 bps)
6: 61,490,017 (491,920,136 bps)
7: 53,829,879 (430,639,032 bps)
8: 50,804,272 (406,434,176 bps)
9: 59,820,521 (478,564,168 bps)
10: 59,662,497 (477,299,976 bps)
11: 58,070,260 (464,562,080 bps)
12: 61,829,441 (494,635,528 bps)
13: 57,806,543 (462,452,344 bps)
14: 54,922,057 (439,376,456 bps)
15: 53,582,661 (428,661,288 bps)
16: 58,204,034 (465,632,272 bps)
17: 61,733,604 (493,868,832 bps)
18: 59,645,740 (477,165,920 bps)
19: 58,604,617 (468,836,936 bps)

Blanca_O · ‎2019-07-16

Hi @clammerds

Please describe your network setup. What is the expected speed and the actual speed you're getting? Do you have Circle and/or Armor enabled? If so, do you get the same speedtest result if it is disabled?

Regards,
Blanca
Community Team

christobevii3 · ‎2019-07-16

Are you using a flat network cable? I'm getting 573Mbs down and 37Mbs upload on mine with cox gigablast. I haven't tested without the router but seems pretty decent and using a Motorolla MB8600 modem

clammerds · ‎2019-07-16

@Blanca_O In the UK, we can't get speeds anywhere near 1GB but I was seeing slow throughput for my 100mbps.

All is good with mine again now though so it must've been a blip.

Thanks for taking the time to respond - much appreciated!

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-17

Seems that others are picking up on this:

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-RBR-50-internal-speed-check-with-modem-half-the-ISP-speed...

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-RBR20-internet-speed-lower-than-expected/m-p/1775373#M659...

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-17

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/Orbi-RBR50-unstable-with-Cox-gigabit/td-p/1775551/jump-to/firs...

atanvarno · ‎2019-07-31

I can confirm this. I have a Fiber link, 1000 / 100. When I connect through 1Gig Ethernet from my MBP directly to ISP router, make a PPPoE login on the Mac, I can get 950/100, easily and repeatedly.

Then, ISP router is set to bridge mode, Eth LAN/WAN to ORBI RBR50: download speed is consistently around 500 MBps, upload stays near 100. I tested with both my MBP connected through Eth to ORBI and also using firmware included speed test. Same results, which lead me to conclude that ORBI is simply not capable to use all the available download badnwidth.

(Just to prevent noob-oriented questions - my ORBI is on latest firmware, I always test using Ethernet directly to router, always using the same server for all speed tests etc)

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-31

Thanks for letting us know and the confirmation. Please contact NG support and let them know about this.

@atanvarno wrote:
I can confirm this. I have a Fiber link, 1000 / 100. When I connect through 1Gig Ethernet from my MBP directly to ISP router, make a PPPoE login on the Mac, I can get 950/100, easily and repeatedly.
Then, ISP router is set to bridge mode, Eth LAN/WAN to ORBI RBR50: download speed is consistently around 500 MBps, upload stays near 100. I tested with both my MBP connected through Eth to ORBI and also using firmware included speed test. Same results, which lead me to conclude that ORBI is simply not capable to use all the available download badnwidth.

(Just to prevent noob-oriented questions - my ORBI is on latest firmware, I always test using Ethernet directly to router, always using the same server for all speed tests etc)

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-31

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/RBR40-wired-to-quantum-FiOS-only-getting-half-speed-download/m...

tuna_ertemalp · ‎2019-07-31

https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/RBR40-wired-to-quantum-FiOS-only-getting-half-speed-download/m...

This points to a post with screenshots I just made that strongly hints at:

@tuna_ertemalp wrote:

....
So, my PC is certainly able to see WIRED 1000/40 speeds when it is connected to the right internet servers. However, testing against certain servers straight from my PC is sub-1000, and the internal SpeedTest app on the Orbi is definitely stuck at reporting ~500 which is:

either because it has a bug in testing (so, it detects half the speed) or
because it has a bug in reporting (so, it reports half of what it found) or
because it is picking a slow server to run against (so, the test server it uses is limited to 500).

....

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-31

Don't rely on the Speedtest app internal on the RBR. Always test external speedtest app from Ookla. Also factory reset the RBR and setup from scratch. This time do not enable or use the QoS/Speedtest app, Traffic meter or any access controls, Circle or Armor. Then run your external speedtest app.

So does your report 900Mbps with external speedtest app thru your Orbi when wired to the back of it?

@tuna_ertemalp wrote:
https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/RBR40-wired-to-quantum-FiOS-only-getting-half-speed-download/m...

This points to a post with screenshots I just made that strongly hints at:

@tuna_ertemalp wrote:
....
So, my PC is certainly able to see WIRED 1000/40 speeds when it is connected to the right internet servers. However, testing against certain servers straight from my PC is sub-1000, and the internal SpeedTest app on the Orbi is definitely stuck at reporting ~500 which is:

either because it has a bug in testing (so, it detects half the speed) or
because it has a bug in reporting (so, it reports half of what it found) or
because it is picking a slow server to run against (so, the test server it uses is limited to 500).
....

tuna_ertemalp · ‎2019-07-31

First, I wasn't reporting a problem; I was reporting my observations and empirical conclusions. But, to answer your question, like I said in my original post that I had linked to, my PC is wired directly to the Orbi.

Also, please allow me to go off on a tangent here, which is not directed personally at you, but Netgear, since I have been having this email conversation with them over the last 12 hours about resetting my router due to some other actual bug in the firmware I have reported: I will NOT reset my RBR every time there is a problem or need to debug something. I am not a paid Netgear tester who is supposed to do all the work and take all the risk. The last time Netgear support told me to reset & restore my router, here is the answer I gave: "Please let me tell you first that I had been a senior software developer & manager of development teams for the last 30 years, working on a billion dollar a year product used by millions across the world. So, when I look at software problems and talk about them, I come from a place of deep experience. In this particular case, resetting the router should absolutely be NOT necessary. .... Since the firmware update, over the weeks, I have done things like naming all my devices (40-50 of them!), changing certain settings (IPv6 etc.) as well as utilizing reserved IP ranges for certain devices. Even though Netgear would claim that a backup/reset/restore should work fine, given that just a simple [....my reported problem...] is exposing a bug, any bug in the backup/reset/restore codepath would cost me weeks worth of work, and if it didn't work, I would probably throw away my Orbi and go buy Google Wifi. No hardware manufacturer in their right might would routinely recommend a clean reset & restore after a software update. That is like saying an iPhone needs to be backed up & wiped & updated & restored during all iOS updates. ..... If a company doesn't trust its own software to work without a reset, how is it that I am expected to trust it that my weeks worth of detailed settings will be preserved by the same software? It would be trivial for any engineer to restore a lab version of the router with the CFG I attached in a few minutes to see if the problem is obvious, compared to the risk I would be running by following your directions. Orbi's CFG file isn't even a human-readable text file, like GS108Tv3 [8-port Smart Managed Pro switch] backup files are, so that if something goes wrong, I won't know what to set manually, and there are tons, short of taking screenshots of all relevant Orbi settings pages first. Is this really considered good customer experience?"

Sorry to vent/rant. But I am really bothered by this "reset first" approach. It should NEVER be required, let alone REQUESTED as a matter of company policy for every firmware update and every problem report. That is just lazy.

@FURRYe38 wrote:
Don't rely on the Speedtest app internal on the RBR. Always test external speedtest app from Ookla. Also factory reset the RBR and setup from scratch. This time do not enable or use the QoS/Speedtest app, Traffic meter or any access controls, Circle or Armor. Then run your external speedtest app.

So does your report 900Mbps with external speedtest app thru your Orbi when wired to the back of it?

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-31

So does your report 900Mbps with external speedtest app thru your Orbi when wired to the back of it? Please give feed back to this. All other tangents are not really relavant here. Were just trying to keep this focused on the issue at hand for those who are not getting 900Mbs (thru) the Orbi RBR on a 1Gb ISP service.

To ensure you testing this accurately, Don't rely on the Speedtest app internal on the RBR. Always test external speedtest app from Ookla. Also factory reset the RBR and setup from scratch. This time do not enable or use the internal QoS/Speedtest app, Traffic meter or any access controls, Circle or Armor. Then run your external speedtest app. Report your findings.

We are working NG support currently to give them as much information about this as possible. NG is reviewing this and looking into it. Any and all debug logs and such, please forward to @Blanca_O

Thanks.

tuna_ertemalp · ‎2019-07-31

I already answered it both in my original post this morning and above at the top of my "tangent":

- (above) "But, to answer your question, like I said in my original post that I had linked to, my PC is wired directly to the Orbi."

-(https://community.netgear.com/t5/Orbi/RBR40-wired-to-quantum-FiOS-only-getting-half-speed-download/m...) "Setup I created this morning: Directly connected my PC to Orbi Router RBR50v2's LAN port. "

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-31

@tuna_ertemalp

And this IS thru the ORbi RBR connected to your ISP modem?

" Running latest SpeedTest Win10 app on the latest Win10 PC against COMCAST.COM server: 511/54

Running latest SpeedTest Win10 app on the latest Win10 PC against SPEEDTEST.NET server: 930/43
Running in the latest Chrome Browser on the latest Win10 PC the Netflix-powered FAST.COM: 1.1/39"

tuna_ertemalp · ‎2019-07-31

Of course. They all are. How else can I use my router to access intetnet without it being connected to the ISP's modem which is in bridge mode with radios off?

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-07-31

Just checking. Thanks.

UeO · ‎2019-08-01

After many hours of reading this forum, my first post.

First I want to thank you, Furrye38, for your advice in many topics. After ever update I reload the same firmware manually, reset all units and reconfigure. Very time consuming.. I still experience disconnects because the RBR50 and/or RBS50s drop WiFi signal. And Orbi is not friendly in maintaining connection with Apple products. Better with Samsung. Maybe I start a topic on that subject later.

Now to your main question of this topic, does RBR50 support 900Mb+?

I have tested it.

My setup is Fiber (1000Mb/1000Mb)>Fritzbox 5490 (router mode, no WiFI)>RBK53 (AP mode, daisy off, v2.3.5.30, wireless backhaul).

The tests are done at a "quiet moment" nothing turned off or disconnected except for the testing PC. So the results are an indication not an absolute number.

Download/ upload speeds Fritzbox>PC (cable Cat5e) in Mbps:

897/858 via speedtestcustom.com

850/600 via fast.com

868/921 via dslreports.com/speedtest

Download/ upload speeds Fritzbox>RBR50 (Cable cat 5e)>PC (cable Cat5e) in Mbps:

816/799 via speedtestcustom.com

950/900 via fast.com

780/923 via dslreports.com/speedtest

I'm sorry for not being able to test the RBR50 in router mode.

FURRYe38 · ‎2019-08-01

Thanks for your detailed information and results.

Yes, AP mode doesn't seem be be effected and users should see near 900Mbps while in AP mode. It's when the RBR is in router mode is where we see a discrepancy with some users.

@UeO wrote:
After many hours of reading this forum, my first post.
First I want to thank you, Furrye38, for your advice in many topics. After ever update I reload the same firmware manually, reset all units and reconfigure. Very time consuming.. I still experience disconnects because the RBR50 and/or RBS50s drop WiFi signal. And Orbi is not friendly in maintaining connection with Apple products. Better with Samsung. Maybe I start a topic on that subject later.

Now to your main question of this topic, does RBR50 support 900Mb+?
I have tested it.
My setup is Fiber (1000Mb/1000Mb)>Fritzbox 5490 (router mode, no WiFI)>RBK53 (AP mode, daisy off, v2.3.5.30, wireless backhaul).
The tests are done at a "quiet moment" nothing turned off or disconnected except for the testing PC. So the results are an indication not an absolute number.

Download/ upload speeds Fritzbox>PC (cable Cat5e) in Mbps:
897/858 via speedtestcustom.com
850/600 via fast.com
868/921 via dslreports.com/speedtest

Download/ upload speeds Fritzbox>RBR50 (Cable cat 5e)>PC (cable Cat5e) in Mbps:
816/799 via speedtestcustom.com
950/900 via fast.com
780/923 via dslreports.com/speedtest

I'm sorry for not being able to test the RBR50 in router mode.

tuna_ertemalp · ‎2019-08-01

@FURRYe38 wrote:
Yes, AP mode doesn't seem be be effected and users should see near 900Mbps while in AP mode. It's when the RBR is in router mode is where we see a discrepancy with some users.

Just to clarify, my RBR is in the router mode (not AP), connected to Comcast cable modem that is in bridge mode with radios turned off, and all my wired computers on my home network are getting up to 1000 speed even though the Speedtest page on the router's web admin page (I am NOT talking about the iPhone Orbi app's speedtest screen) consistently reports ~500. So, the discrepancy is between what Orbi actually passes through (i.e. whatever you get from the ISP) and what it reports (i.e. its internal speed test results).

I am sure some people are not seeing full ISP speeds, but those all seem to be related to things like having both cable/DSL modem and RBR as router which causes conflicts, or too many radios are on on modems & routers or other devices around that cause interference, or bad cables with low bandwidth capacity, or missing or improper network cable terminations in random places on the network.

Tuna