Hi,So far I'm really impressed with my Duo - it's all working well. Only one thing I can't get it to do!I cannot get it to pick up playlists I create. This is the process I go through:Export a playlist from iTunes as an m3uCopy it into my music directory on the DuoChange the path of the files to be correct.What I have done now is created a small music directory - 1 album - and put a playlist in there, so that I can rescan quickly and try to get the playlist picked up.I've checked the syntax in the m3u but it seems fine.Here is the playlist:#EXTM3U#EXTINF:523,Elements - Lemon Jelly./Lemon Jelly/Lost Horizons/01 Elements.m4aIt's called Evening.m3u, and sits at the same level as the music folder.Can anyone help? Is there anything obvious I'm doing wrong? I've played around with this a lot, ie changing the pathname to be absolute, changing the location, creating a Playlists folder, but none of it seems to work.Is there any way to run this under debug so that I can see the parse problems?I am using a Pure Avanti Flow and VLC on a Mac - both with the same results.CheersDinky

In case it saves anyone else the hour it took me to figure this out....I exported my playlist from iTunes on my Mac and copied it onto my ReadyNAS, modified the paths to point to the right place, the playlist showed up on my WD TV Live but when I tried to play the list it said "no media".I ended up editing the file in vi and saw that the carriage returns / line feeds showed as ^M and determined this was hosing things.Used vim to fix according to this wiki:http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/File_format

Hi,I have a ReadyNAS Duo using DLNA/UPnP to stream music to my Pure Sirocco 550 Media Player.I initially had problems streaming the music but after doing the RAIDiator 4.1.8 and the DLNA 1.0.21updates this has solved these issues & I can now stream the music.However, the Sirocco will not recognise the playlists (.m3u or .wpl) stored on the Duo createdby WMP from the music stored on the Duo - after selecting Playlist on the Siroccoall I get is "no tracks found". The same Duo playlists will quite happily play on a PC(win7) using WMPand the Sirocco will happily play playlists created from music stored on a PC(win7) by WMP.After many emails with the technical people at Pure they tell me they belleve the reason is because the Duois not fully compliant with UPnP standard v1.0 ??Any adice/help greatly appreciated.thanksBrian Buggins

brianbug wrote:After many emails with the technical people at Pure they tell me they belleve the reason is because the Duois not fully compliant with UPnP standard v1.0 ??More probable that the playlist items include windows specific paths, rather than the paths that the ReadyDLNA application can understand as commented on in the post previous to yoursIrrespective of carriage return/line feed, folder separator issues etc consider the example where your music is stored in the media share. The windows path used by WMP will be something like:\\nasname\media\music\artist\album\track.mp3or if you've mapped a share to a drive letter:M:\music\artist\album\track.mp3But ReadyDLNA has direct access to the NAS filesystem (it doesn't access the media via CIFS) and so will see the same file as:/c/media/music/artist/album/track.mp3So the difference in path (again, irrespective of the folder separator) means ReadyDLNA will not see the media at the same location and result in a "no tracks found" error. You'd have to create new versions of your playlists to overcome this

hIthanks for your response - I had seen references on the forum to path name issuesand tried various ideas without success. I'm obviuosly doing something wrong,based on your reply I have done the following but it will not play :-Original WMP playlist :-#EXTM3U#EXTINF:0,01 Club Mix.mp3\\BUGGINSNAS\media\Music\Various Artists\90's Party Mix\01 Club Mix.mp3editted to become :-/c/media/Music/Various Artists/90's Party Mix/01 Club Mix.mp3 is this correct ? (i.m not sure what the "c" refers to and have changed \ to /)kind regardsBrian Buggins

"c" refers to the "c Volume" - this is the default volume used internally by the ReadyNAS to store your shares - like the "C:" drive of your PC. Some users may have "d" and "e" volumes etc depending on how they have their RAID setup configuredThe other thing to be aware of is that under linux (the ReadyNAS OS) it is common that you need to "escape" space and other special characters in file/folder names - though this tends to be an application specific requirement and I'm unsure if it applies to ReadyDLNA. Escaping characters with the "\" symbol forces the following character to be taken as a literal character and not any form of delimiterSo, your path would be: /c/media/Music/Various\ Artists/90\'s\ Party\ Mix/01\ Club\ Mix.mp3

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rcrampton
Aspirant
Jul 09, 2011
In case it saves anyone else the hour it took me to figure this out....

I exported my playlist from iTunes on my Mac and copied it onto my ReadyNAS, modified the paths to point to the right place, the playlist showed up on my WD TV Live but when I tried to play the list it said "no media".

I ended up editing the file in vi and saw that the carriage returns / line feeds showed as ^M and determined this was hosing things.

Used vim to fix according to this wiki:
http://vim.wikia.com/wiki/File_format
brianbug
Aspirant
Oct 18, 2011
Hi,

I have a ReadyNAS Duo using DLNA/UPnP to stream music to my Pure Sirocco 550 Media Player.
I initially had problems streaming the music but after doing the RAIDiator 4.1.8 and the DLNA 1.0.21
updates this has solved these issues & I can now stream the music.
However, the Sirocco will not recognise the playlists (.m3u or .wpl) stored on the Duo created
by WMP from the music stored on the Duo - after selecting Playlist on the Sirocco
all I get is "no tracks found". The same Duo playlists will quite happily play on a PC(win7) using WMP
and the Sirocco will happily play playlists created from music stored on a PC(win7) by WMP.

After many emails with the technical people at Pure they tell me they belleve the reason is because the Duo
is not fully compliant with UPnP standard v1.0 ??

Any adice/help greatly appreciated.

thanks

Brian Buggins
sphardy1
Apprentice
Oct 18, 2011
brianbug wrote:

After many emails with the technical people at Pure they tell me they belleve the reason is because the Duo
is not fully compliant with UPnP standard v1.0 ??

More probable that the playlist items include windows specific paths, rather than the paths that the ReadyDLNA application can understand as commented on in the post previous to yours

Irrespective of carriage return/line feed, folder separator issues etc consider the example where your music is stored in the media share. The windows path used by WMP will be something like:

\\nasname\media\music\artist\album\track.mp3

or if you've mapped a share to a drive letter:

M:\music\artist\album\track.mp3

But ReadyDLNA has direct access to the NAS filesystem (it doesn't access the media via CIFS) and so will see the same file as:

/c/media/music/artist/album/track.mp3

So the difference in path (again, irrespective of the folder separator) means ReadyDLNA will not see the media at the same location and result in a "no tracks found" error. You'd have to create new versions of your playlists to overcome this
brianbug
Aspirant
Oct 18, 2011
hI
thanks for your response - I had seen references on the forum to path name issues
and tried various ideas without success. I'm obviuosly doing something wrong,
based on your reply I have done the following but it will not play :-
Original WMP playlist :-
#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:0,01 Club Mix.mp3
\\BUGGINSNAS\media\Music\Various Artists\90's Party Mix\01 Club Mix.mp3
editted to become :-
/c/media/Music/Various Artists/90's Party Mix/01 Club Mix.mp3
is this correct ? (i.m not sure what the "c" refers to and have changed \ to /)

kind regards

Brian Buggins
sphardy1
Apprentice
Oct 18, 2011
"c" refers to the "c Volume" - this is the default volume used internally by the ReadyNAS to store your shares - like the "C:" drive of your PC. Some users may have "d" and "e" volumes etc depending on how they have their RAID setup configured

The other thing to be aware of is that under linux (the ReadyNAS OS) it is common that you need to "escape" space and other special characters in file/folder names - though this tends to be an application specific requirement and I'm unsure if it applies to ReadyDLNA. Escaping characters with the "\" symbol forces the following character to be taken as a literal character and not any form of delimiter

So, your path would be: /c/media/Music/Various\ Artists/90\'s\ Party\ Mix/01\ Club\ Mix.mp3
brianbug
Aspirant
Oct 18, 2011
Hi
many thanks for you time & reply

i think i have tried all combinations but still no joy - not sure what I'm doing wrong.
A couple of times it appeared as though the Sirocco was trying
to load the playlist file - but came back "no tracks found" - I will keep investigating.

Regards

Brian Buggins
brianbug
Aspirant
Oct 18, 2011
Hi

I have just received this email(below) from Pure re. my Playlist problem - not sure it helps
-any comments welcome :-

Windows Media Player is not a UPNP client or server, please try Twonky as per my colleagues previous instruction.
The fact that the Sirocco can read an M3U from windows media player suggests that the problem isn't with this protocol, nor is it with UPNP as this is fully tested and compliant, the NAS must be running some other form of background process that is causing an incompatibility issue.

Regards

Brian Buggins
sphardy1
Apprentice
Oct 18, 2011
There are multiple levels of fail in that response, but the bottom line is - as the saying goes - the nice thing about standards is that there are so many to choose from...

There are multiple UPnP AV servers that claim various levels of compliance with different so-called standards, that you never know what client will really work with what server until you try it. So assuming you have not made any error in you playlist file, there's little more you can do directly, and it's difficult for users like us to debug if the fault lies in the client or the server.

It doesn't seem Pure - who are best positioned to help - has much interest in making their units work with ReadyNAS devices.

You could try posting on the minidlna forum - perhaps you might get help: http://sourceforge.net/projects/minidlna/

(minidlna is the UPnP AV server application running on ReadyNAS devices - they just rename it)
StephenB
Guru - Experienced User
Oct 18, 2011
I agree; pure is just telling you politely that they have no idea what is going on.

In addition to the mini-dlna post, there are a lot of variations on the path name you could try.

For instance, you could put test.mp3 into media (not a subfolder) and try a series on m3u files (also in media), as see if any play.

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:0,test.mp3
test.mp3

#EXTM3U
test.mp3

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:0,test.mp3
media\test.mp3

#EXTM3U
media\test.mp3

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:0,test.mp3
media/test.mp3

#EXTM3U
media/test.mp3

#EXTM3U
#EXTINF:0,test.mp3
http://readynas-name-or-ip/media/test.mp3
brianbug
Aspirant
Nov 09, 2011
Many thanks for all the comments to date.
Despite trying numerous variations on the format of the pathnames etc in my .m3u playlists stored on the NAS (using ReadyDLNA for streaming) I still cannot get the Sirocco to reliably/consistently play these Playlists on the NAS. However what I have found is that the Sirocco will correctly play a playlist stored & created on my Netgear DuoNas BUT only if I access it using my PC as the Media Server (which in turn is effectively accessing this NAS Playlist via WMP ie it shows up in the WMP Playlist because the NAS is set up to be the music library within WMP on the PC). Obviulsy this "solution" requires PC to be on which goes against concept of having a NAS.
Does this finding help in identifying where the problem could be ie Sirocco or NAS ??