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ReadyNAS nv+ vs nv+ v2 vs 104
I'd appreciate anyone who can answer any of these questions. Please reply even if you know the answer to only one of the questions.
I'm contemplating exchanging by new nv+ v2 (got it for $250) for either nv+ (v1, $400) or the newer 104 model ($340) but I'm having difficulties finding some answers.
For instance:
1) What is the max. storage volume I can create with the nv+? I have three 3TB WD Red drives (12TB total) (models WD30-EFRX) which are on the HCL for all 3 ReadyNAS models. Can I go 16TB max. with the nv+ (using other 4TB drives), or at least 12 TB (with the 3TB red drives) if I put on the latest firmware? The 104 supports 16TB for sure but apparently isn't much faster than the nv+ v2 as it's still ARM based.
This nv+ v1 review, http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-reviews/31272-netgear-readynas-ultra-4-reviewed
...says max. is 2TB drives which would suggest 8TB total storage in the 4-bay model but the 3TB WD Red drives I have are on the HCL which suggests either 8TB total or 12TB. I say 8TB because although it supports the 3TB drives, maybe it will only see them as 2TB drives? I got 5.4TB total from the three 3TB WD drives on the nv+ v2 using X-RAID2 (and supports 12TB with 4x3TB drives) so I'd like to still have that same total size on the nv+ v1.
2) I currently have an X-RAID2 volume in my nv+ v2. Can I move the 3 red drives I mentioned from the nv+ v2 to the nv+ v1 without losing data?
3) The nv+ v2 has support for Active Directory users & groups. Does the nv+ v1 have it too? I have a domain and I'd like to restrict folder/file access to AD users/groups.
The reason I'm considering switching to the nv+ v1 is because the v2 has no addons other than ReadyNAS Photos II and SSH Root and the v1 has the Atom processor with 1GB ram and more addons so it should be much faster copying files from my pc to the nas and vice-versa. With the v2 I only get 20-25 MB/s on my gigabit lan which is slow. And the 3.0 USB ports on it act like 1.1 because I connected my USB 3.0 Pivos (XIOS) media player and I only get about 8-13 MB/s copying files using Windows Explorer or the Backup tab in Frontview. Using latest NAS firmware too (Raidiator 5.3.8).
I'm contemplating exchanging by new nv+ v2 (got it for $250) for either nv+ (v1, $400) or the newer 104 model ($340) but I'm having difficulties finding some answers.
For instance:
1) What is the max. storage volume I can create with the nv+? I have three 3TB WD Red drives (12TB total) (models WD30-EFRX) which are on the HCL for all 3 ReadyNAS models. Can I go 16TB max. with the nv+ (using other 4TB drives), or at least 12 TB (with the 3TB red drives) if I put on the latest firmware? The 104 supports 16TB for sure but apparently isn't much faster than the nv+ v2 as it's still ARM based.
This nv+ v1 review, http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/nas/nas-reviews/31272-netgear-readynas-ultra-4-reviewed
...says max. is 2TB drives which would suggest 8TB total storage in the 4-bay model but the 3TB WD Red drives I have are on the HCL which suggests either 8TB total or 12TB. I say 8TB because although it supports the 3TB drives, maybe it will only see them as 2TB drives? I got 5.4TB total from the three 3TB WD drives on the nv+ v2 using X-RAID2 (and supports 12TB with 4x3TB drives) so I'd like to still have that same total size on the nv+ v1.
2) I currently have an X-RAID2 volume in my nv+ v2. Can I move the 3 red drives I mentioned from the nv+ v2 to the nv+ v1 without losing data?
3) The nv+ v2 has support for Active Directory users & groups. Does the nv+ v1 have it too? I have a domain and I'd like to restrict folder/file access to AD users/groups.
The reason I'm considering switching to the nv+ v1 is because the v2 has no addons other than ReadyNAS Photos II and SSH Root and the v1 has the Atom processor with 1GB ram and more addons so it should be much faster copying files from my pc to the nas and vice-versa. With the v2 I only get 20-25 MB/s on my gigabit lan which is slow. And the 3.0 USB ports on it act like 1.1 because I connected my USB 3.0 Pivos (XIOS) media player and I only get about 8-13 MB/s copying files using Windows Explorer or the Backup tab in Frontview. Using latest NAS firmware too (Raidiator 5.3.8).
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- Nv+ v1 only takes 2TB drives therefore you would "waste" the extra Tb on each
The files systems from V1 to V2 are incompatible therefore cannot simply swap across drives you would have to read data across
What you are actually looking at is an Ultra four this also has a different file format again so once again you can not simply swap drives. This also only accepts I believe 2TB disks so drive space will be lost
All I get is 20-28 Mb/s but I am moving data every now and then
for the NV+ V2 i do not think that t 4TB disks are on the HCL I certainly have not tried these out I understand that the synology units accept 4tb drives and the DS413J has the same processor as the NV+ V2 - I would not get an NV+ (v1), if this is indeed the unit you were looking at. It's relatively slow, doesn't support >2TB drives and is unlikely to get a lot of development support from now.
The max storage capacity (with redundancy) with the NV+ (v1) would be about 5.4TB.
Anyway, I suspect you are actually looking at the Ultra 4 (that's what the review is for), this and the Ultra 4 plus and Pro 4 are good machines; they are also now legacy products and may not receive as much development - Netgear has moved to a new OS which is only available on the new NASs like the 104 and 314.
They all, however, are probably fast enough for you, and can take 3 and 4 tb drives - lots of 3 tbs on HCL, only 1 4 tb.
Here is a calculator which will allow you to determine how much capacity you will have with different disks:
http://kossboss.siigna.net/xraid.html
You're considering the availability of addons - you may find over the coming months that the newer models have more available than the "legacy" models.
Have you considered the Readynas 314, it's more expensive but if you want or need a faster processor and you can afford it then that's what I would get.
Oh , please try (initially at least) to post on one forum section and wait for a reply, rather than posting the same questions in multiple areas simultaneously. You will almost certainly get a reply if you wait a while, the forum members are very helpful!
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