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Urgent: Cannot install applications + Access Web UI too long, and turn-off unit too long

chopin70
Virtuoso

Urgent: Cannot install applications + Access Web UI too long, and turn-off unit too long

Hi,

 

My uTorrent stopped downloading torrents.

I uninstalled, reinstalled it and finally tried a package I was using on my RNDU2000. It was a recent package with same 3.3 version as the one from Netgear app page. It was a deb package I got from super poussin dropbox, but it is no longer there now

 

After that, I couldn't uninstall uTorrent. I had to reboot and then uninstall could resume.

 

However, now, I cannot install any application from app pages. I get an error: Can't install application "app_name"

Uploading a deb package of teh app also fails to install

 

Also, since this issue:

- on boot, accessing the web UI needs a very long delay

- turn off the unit now takes a very long time where it would turn off in a few seconds

 

Please help, I am stuck

Model: RN524X|ReadyNAS 524X Premium performance Business Data Storage
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StephenB
Guru

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

Also, check your router settings to see if you have it set up to block new connections (or have some other ACL which is preventing the NAS from reaching the internet).

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications + Access Web UI too long, and turn-off unit too long

Today I cannot access the GUI

Stuck on the Netgear ReadyNAS logo...

 

Should I hard reset / restore ? 😞

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mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications + Access Web UI too long, and turn-off unit too long

Is this on your Ultra 2 or your RN524X?

I've sent you a PM.

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications + Access Web UI too long, and turn-off unit too long

Ultra 2 is recycled, it is my new RN524X

Web GUI came back, it just takes very long to appear after a successful boot

 

Reading your PM right now, I am trying to follow instructions right now

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications + Access Web UI too long, and turn-off unit too long

I followed your instructions and sent all by PM

Please let me know how it is proceeding and the exact causes of the issue

 

If a hard reset is recommended for a clean system after my migration from Ultra2, I prefer to do it with a factory reset to avoid further issues

 

Best regards

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications + Access Web UI too long, and turn-off unit too long

Sent you a PM with following info:

 

I ended up with a factory reset as I noticed all my internet connection from NAS is down, that's why utorrent won't work, you cannot connect remotely, my baikal server cannot sync and apps cannot install unless uploaded from my disk as a deb package

 

However, issue is still same after a factory reset, format volumes and create a new empty one:

- very long time to access GUI once booted

- very long time to turn off

 

I also noticed 2 issues:

- sending test mail fails with error 5008010003

- Apps page doesn't show any app

 

I now recall that I did not receive any email alerts since yesterday when the issues started, so it was probably already present

It is just like the NAS can connect to my local network as I can see it and look at shares from PC, but it cannot connect to the WAN

 

Nothing changed at the router side or switch

 

I downloaded logs before factory reset and I can download other logs from current state

 

Please help me fix the issue or check if it is hardware fault and really needs an RMA. This will cost me a lot of time however, so if it is not needed it will be great

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications + Access Web UI too long, and turn-off unit too long

This command seems to confirm the issue:

root@NAS-01:/# ping www.google.com
PING www.google.com (10.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
^C
--- www.google.com ping statistics ---
61 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

The LAN interface is on DHCP, the gateway adress looks good and the NAS correctly picks the right internal IP assigned via static config at the router side 

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mdgm-ntgr
NETGEAR Employee Retired

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

Have you tried changing network cables?

Have you tried a direct-connection between your NAS and your PC?

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StephenB
Guru

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications + Access Web UI too long, and turn-off unit too long


@chopin70 wrote:

This command seems to confirm the issue:

root@NAS-01:/# ping www.google.com
PING www.google.com (10.0.0.1): 56 data bytes
^C
--- www.google.com ping statistics ---
61 packets transmitted, 0 packets received, 100% packet loss

 

www.google.com is certainly not 10.0.0.1.  10.0.0.1 is a private IP address.  So something is definitely wrong with your DNS setup. Try ping 8.8.8.8 and see if that responds.

 

Do you have DNS servers configured on the NAS?  If so, start by deleting them, and see if the issue resolves.  If it doesn't try adding 8.8.8.8 as a DNS server (it is google's public DNS server).

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

I am back from work and I could check your suggestions

 

Things look very bad sadly

- I tried with a new LAN cable

- I tried to plug the LAN cable directly to the router instead of the switch

- I tried 1GB and 10GB LAN ports

- I tried with IPV6 on/off

- I tried with manually setting DHCP DNS to 8.8.8.8 on the NAS LAN ports

 

10.0.0.1 is the router gateway. DHCP is served by the router.

NAS has DHCP enabled and correcly picks up the assigned internal IP for both LAN ports and in all above trial scenarios.

I can perfectly access the NAS from PC and from my Android devices (SMB, GUI)

 

Reviewing my email alerts:

- the last alert message I received was on 6.6.2017 at 00:24 saying NAS shuts down

- I didn't receive the alert message that I turned it on on 6.6.2017 afternoon

- on 6.6.2017 I noticed that utorrent cannot download. I suspected a permissions issue and tried install/unistall...

- I thought it was an install app issue but now I understand better: it was aconnection loss to the internet

 

I only have one LAN port on PC, so I cannot connect it directly to PC to test internet access. Internal access from LAN is smooth

 

I didn't update any firmware recently on my router, on the switch or on the NAS

I didn't change settings in router or NAS since a while

 

In the GUI, the tab with Apps doesn't list any app since my hard reset, I guess because it cannot connect to internet

Else, everything looks correct from my LAN side

 

Please help me. Is this something that can be caused / known to be due to hardware failure ?

How can tech support access it to debug remotely ? Tech boot mode was not helpful as the device is not connected to the web

 

I am disappointed as the device is brand new

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StephenB
Guru

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications


@chopin70 wrote:

 

10.0.0.1 is the router gateway. DHCP is served by the router.

NAS has DHCP enabled and correcly picks up the assigned internal IP for both LAN ports and in all above trial scenarios.

I can perfectly access the NAS from PC and from my Android devices (SMB, GUI)

 

Yes.  So there's nothing wrong overall with your ethernet - no need to waste time with cables, etc.  Your problem is pretty clearly with DNS. 


@chopin70 wrote:

 

- I tried with manually setting DHCP to 8.8.8.8 on the NAS LAN ports

 

That has no chance of working.  8.8.8.8 is a DNS server.  That is NOT the same as a DHCP server.

 

Let's slow down, and take a smaller step.  Set the NAS back to the way it was before you changed the settings.  If you have two ethernet cables connected to the NAS, then please disconnect one.

 

Then ssh into the NAS, and tell us what happens with you enter ping 8.8.8.8

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

Sorry, my message was wrong: I set 8.8.8.8 as DNS server, not DHCP obviously

 

When you setup the NAS behind a router which is serving as DHCP and DNS server, the DNS always gets auto assigned to the gateway adress, in my case 10.0.0.1

Here's a pic of my network setup, same unchanged from my Ultra 2 times...

 

I just put back my cables as before. I only have the 1GB LAN port connected:

ping 8.8.8.8 gives same failure message as my post above whith the setup in below screenshot

 

07.PNG

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StephenB
Guru

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

So ping 8.8.8.8 fails and ping www.google.com resolves to the router address, and not the real webserver.

 

My guess is that ping 10.0.0.1 fails also - is that correct?  Did you disable IPv6 in the NAS setup (if your network doesn't use IPv6 you should).

 

 

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

Just tried ping 10.0.0.1, and yes, it fails with 100% packets drop

 

IPv6 is disabled on both NAS network adapters

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StephenB
Guru

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications


@chopin70 wrote:

Just tried ping 10.0.0.1, and yes, it fails with 100% packets drop

 


That's weird, since you are connecting to the NAS via the router.  What happens if you ping the PC you are using?

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

root@NAS-01:~# ping 10.0.0.33
PING 10.0.0.33 (10.0.0.33): 56 data bytes
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=0 ttl=128 time=0.461 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=1 ttl=128 time=0.274 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=2 ttl=128 time=0.263 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=3 ttl=128 time=0.349 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=4 ttl=128 time=0.496 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=5 ttl=128 time=0.471 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=6 ttl=128 time=0.238 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=7 ttl=128 time=0.367 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=8 ttl=128 time=0.517 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=9 ttl=128 time=0.422 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=10 ttl=128 time=0.562 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=11 ttl=128 time=0.489 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=12 ttl=128 time=0.522 ms
64 bytes from 10.0.0.33: seq=13 ttl=128 time=0.443 ms

--- 10.0.0.33 ping statistics ---
14 packets transmitted, 14 packets received, 0% packet loss
round-trip min/avg/max = 0.238/0.419/0.562 ms
root@NAS-01:~#

Ping seems to work properly here, really wired

 

My setup:

- Router behind modem

- Switch behind the router

- Every device connected to the Switch, nothing directly to the router

 

However, as stated above, I tried connecting directly to the router without fixing the issue

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StephenB
Guru

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

So that works at least.  

 

apt-get install traceroute will probably fail, but perhaps is worth a try anyway.  Let me know what happens.

 

Another thing you could try is an OS reinstall from the front panel.

 

 

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StephenB
Guru

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

Also, check your router settings to see if you have it set up to block new connections (or have some other ACL which is preventing the NAS from reaching the internet).

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

apt-get, like any online command fails sadly, just tried: Unable to locate package

 

I will read manual how to reinstall OS and do it right now

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

You are right, wired

I see it is blocked in the router R7000

 

I didn't do anything from there, really wired !

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

I just don't get it, in R7000, it was always assigned a static IP, so auto-allowed

After your suggestion, I looked and it was in the attached blocked devices list in red, while it is correctly shown as having a static IP 

I never manually added it there and it was working on first install

 

Anyway, many many thanks for your catch, I never have thought controlling at blocked devices in my router GUI

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

The apps tab still doesn't show any application

How can I force a refresh, tried refres from browser and from the GUI refresh button

Message 22 of 25
StephenB
Guru

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

Maybe try a reboot.

 

Or you can download the debs directly from http://apps.readynas.com/pages/?page_id=9, and then use the upload on the apps page.

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

reboot NAS didn't refresh the apps page, neither access from another browser

Is there a way to force a reload of apps page without factory reset ?

 

I can do a factory reset since NAS is still fresh out of previous factory reset

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chopin70
Virtuoso

Re: Urgent: Cannot install applications

factory reset made it possible to refresh the apps page

Maybe another solution exists, or I should turned off or it is a timed refresh setting...

 

Any info on this from a NAS tech support ?

 

Many thanks again really for pointing me to the issue. It was a stupid thing, probably on my side. I now remember I had visits for which I enabled the wifi guest access exactly the 06.06.2017, 2 days ago. I clearly remember now that I turned on block new devices. My new NAS got blocked at that moment. I thought that a device with a static IP could not be blocked and I remember also a discussion we had that wired blocked devices have only their WAN access cut, not the LAN access

 

Many thanks again

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