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dalewebb
Aspirant
Dec 05, 2019
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Nest X Yale lock disconnects

Orbi RBR40 plus 2 satellites

Have many Nest products including thermostat, Nest Protects, Nest Hello, and a Nest X Yale lock.  The Nest x Yale lock keeps dropping it's connection (maybe other devices are too; I don't know).  The Nest x Yale tech support agent is blaming the router (Orbi with 2 satellites).  Anyone else have trouble with this device?  Any clues how to fix it?  Firmwear is up-to-date.

Dale Webb

  • Thank you for all your help.  I think I have my modem bridged and the PPPoE set up on the router.  Things appear to be working fine.

    Thanks again.

13 Replies

  • What Firmware is currently loaded?
    What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too?

    What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?
    What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)? 30 feet is recommended in between RBR and RBS to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected. https://kb.netgear.com/000036466/How-far-should-I-place-my-Orbi-satellite-from-my-Orbi-router

     

    What channels are you using? Auto? Try setting manual channel 1, 6 or 11 on 2.4Ghz and any unused channel on 5Ghz.
    Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?

     

    Try enabling Beamforming and MIMO(MIMO may or maynot be needed) and WMM. Under Advanced Tab/Advanced Settings/Wireless Settings

    Try disabling the following and see:
    Armor, Circle, Daisy Chain, Fast Roaming, IPv6 and Set 20/40Mhz Coexistence to 40Mhz only. Save settings and reboot the router and satellite(s).


  • dalewebb wrote:

    The Nest x Yale lock keeps dropping it's connection


    "Dropping its connection" can mean different things:

    • The device disappears from the Orbi "Attached Devices" display.
    • The app that controls the device stops functioning.

    Is it correct to assume that the lock appeared to install correctly and operated successfully for a period of time?

    How does the lock get reconnected?

     

    Thanks

     

  • I'll try and answer all your questions:

     

    What Firmware is currently loaded?

    Model NameDevice NameCurrent VersionStatus
    RouterRBR40RBR40V2.3.5.30No new firmware version available.
    SatelliteRBW30Orbi Satellite-1V2.3.5.6No new firmware version available.
    SatelliteRBW30Orbi Satellite-2V2.3.0.4No new firmware version available.


    What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too?

    Zyxel C3000Z

     

    What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?  What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)?

     

    About 1200 sq ft.  Modem and router are in the basement.  Satellite 1 is almost directly above the modem/router in the upstairs.  Satellite 2 is about 20 feet from satellite 1.

     

    What channels are you using?

    2.4 Ghz: 11

    5 Ghz: 48


    Any Wifi Neighbors near by? If so, how many?

    My phone "sees" about 4 wifi networks.  Most are quite weak.

     

    Is it correct to assume that the lock appeared to install correctly and operated successfully for a period of time?

    Lock has operated successfully for up to a month, then will go offline (Nest app tells me it is offline.  Guess I don't know exactly what that means.)  Nest tech support tells me the LOCK is offline.  The Nest Connect is working nominally.

     

    How does the lock get reconnected?

    Occasionally, it just seems to reconnect without intervention.  Usually, I have to remove the batteries for a time and then put them back in to reconnect.

     

    I'll try the suggested changes in your list.

    Thank you.

     

    Dale Webb

     

     

     

    • FURRYe38's avatar
      FURRYe38
      Guru

      dalewebb wrote:


      What is the Mfr and model# of the ISP modem the NG router is connected too?

      Zyxel C3000Z

      This has a built in router and wifi. This would be a double NAT condition which isn't recommended. https://kb.netgear.com/30186/What-is-Double-NAT
      Couple of options,
      1. Configure the modem for transparent bridge mode. You'll need to contact the ISP for help and information in regards to the modem being bridged correctly. Then use the Orbi router in router mode.
      2. If you can't bridge the modem, disable ALL wifi radios on the modem, configure the modems DMZ/ExposedHost or IP Pass-Through for the IP address the Orbi router gets from the modem. Then you can use the Orbi router in Router mode.
      3. Or disable all wifi radios on the modem and connect the Orbi router to the modem, configure AP mode on the Orbi router. https://kb.netgear.com/31218/How-do-I-configure-my-Orbi-router-to-act-as-an-access-point and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H7LOcJ8GdDo&app=desktop 

       

      What is the size of your home? Sq Ft?  What is the distance between the router and satellite(s)?

      About 1200 sq ft.  Modem and router are in the basement.  Satellite 1 is almost directly above the modem/router in the upstairs.  Satellite 2 is about 20 feet from satellite 1.

       

      The distance between the RBWs and RBR is too close. This is probably causing too much wifi signal over lap between these devcies. 30 feet is recommended in between them to begin with depending upon building materials when wirelessly connected.

       

       

       


       

      • dalewebb's avatar
        dalewebb
        Aspirant

        I called Centurylink to configure my modem (Zyxel C3000Z) to bridging mode and all he had me do was switch the WAN settings from the current PPPoE setting to Transparent Bridging.  My internet went away.  He said now, I needed to contact Netgear to configure the router.  Is there an article somewhere to configure the Orbi router?