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Wow!!! Orbi Firmware V2.0.0.72 Released
Just logged into my router and it gave me the option to upgrade the firmware.
Have now Upgraded to V2.0.0.72
Haven’t had too much time to explore but early indications are WOW !!!
There are some serious improvements that are going to make all the difference to an already impressive system.
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- Actually I talked to multiple reps @ netgear its not available anymore they pulled it. They said its was just for testing. They will release a different firmware in the next 7 days.
Sevo123 wrote:
@Actually I talked to multiple reps @ netgear its not available anymore they pulled it. They said its was just for testing. They will release a different firmware in the next 7 days.Still avallable at the dropbox links originally given...interesting. Wouldn't surprise me to see new firmware in a week, though.
- I tried the drop box link on my other orbi system only my router updated it was saying the rbs 50 file is corrupt and the rbs40 its not a actual file to download only the rbr 50 was correct. So now stuck with my rbs50 updated and all satalites still not lol.
So, still no toggle to stop unwanted firmware updates ?
madbrain wrote:
So, still no toggle to stop unwanted firmware updates ?
hate to tell you this but the way its done now is the norm not an exception , just got to get used to
Netgear caused so many problems for me in their last firmware update that I'm not just going to accept that. Forced firmware updates are not OK. There is not even scheduling options available for the update !
I was hopeful since Netgear said they "listened to feedback" and put the transmit power option back, but apparently they haven't heard how many users have complained about the forced firmware updates.
I've been running it most the day now, and it seems more stable than the 1.12 version. I will reserve judgement until I have more experience with roaming devices.
Does anyone know if the setting for daisychain is "use it if Orbi thinks it needs it", or is it "use it no matter what"? In other words, I have my Router on the main floor center of house, Sat1 on Upper floor east end of house, and Sat2 in basement on west end of house. So, a star config is best for me I assume... so if the daisychain setting is on, will Orbi always try to arrange as Orbi-SatX-SatY? Or will it be smart about it?
How can you tell what the topology is? On the Attached Devices page, if it was doing daisychain, would the Connected Orbi of one of the satellites be another satellite? Mine are both showing the router, so I guess it is using star topology?
@shoek wrote:Does anyone know if the setting for daisychain is "use it if Orbi thinks it needs it", or is it "use it no matter what"? In other words, I have my Router on the main floor center of house, Sat1 on Upper floor east end of house, and Sat2 in basement on west end of house. So, a star config is best for me I assume... so if the daisychain setting is on, will Orbi always try to arrange as Orbi-SatX-SatY? Or will it be smart about it?
How can you tell what the topology is? On the Attached Devices page, if it was doing daisychain, would the Connected Orbi of one of the satellites be another satellite? Mine are both showing the router, so I guess it is using star topology?
Yes, if both satellites show that they are connected to the router, then that's the star topology. So if you have the daisychain topoplogy enabled, then your Orbi is indeed being smart about it. Sounds good to me *smile*.
Over 24 hours later, still rock solid, no issues so far, seems very good.
@shoek wrote:I've been running it most the day now, and it seems more stable than the 1.12 version. I will reserve judgement until I have more experience with roaming devices.
Does anyone know if the setting for daisychain is "use it if Orbi thinks it needs it", or is it "use it no matter what"? In other words, I have my Router on the main floor center of house, Sat1 on Upper floor east end of house, and Sat2 in basement on west end of house. So, a star config is best for me I assume... so if the daisychain setting is on, will Orbi always try to arrange as Orbi-SatX-SatY? Or will it be smart about it?
How can you tell what the topology is? On the Attached Devices page, if it was doing daisychain, would the Connected Orbi of one of the satellites be another satellite? Mine are both showing the router, so I guess it is using star topology?
yep I think in the attached devices it would show one satellite connected to another. So looks like it is "smart" about deciding which way to go. Not sure why they have ? temporarily pulled the firmware down?
cyberprashant wrote:
@shoek wrote:I've been running it most the day now, and it seems more stable than the 1.12 version. I will reserve judgement until I have more experience with roaming devices.
Does anyone know if the setting for daisychain is "use it if Orbi thinks it needs it", or is it "use it no matter what"? In other words, I have my Router on the main floor center of house, Sat1 on Upper floor east end of house, and Sat2 in basement on west end of house. So, a star config is best for me I assume... so if the daisychain setting is on, will Orbi always try to arrange as Orbi-SatX-SatY? Or will it be smart about it?
How can you tell what the topology is? On the Attached Devices page, if it was doing daisychain, would the Connected Orbi of one of the satellites be another satellite? Mine are both showing the router, so I guess it is using star topology?
yep I think in the attached devices it would show one satellite connected to another. So looks like it is "smart" about deciding which way to go. Not sure why they have ? temporarily pulled the firmware down?
1) Is this (in red) confirmed?
Otherwise I will leave my 'Enable Daisy-Chain Topology' setting disabled since the "hub and spoke" (or star topology) - both satellites connected to the Orbi router, as opposed to the 2 satellites being connected to each other) is better in my case since the Orbi router is on the main level (1st floor) of our house and the satellites are in the basement and 2nd floor.
2) I wish there were a way to disable automatic firmware updates (the blocking of 'download.netgear.com' in the Orbi UI (nder 'Security' > 'Block Sites' as someone suggested) did not work. Version 2.0.0.72 downloaded by itself (not sure when):
Today, for the first time since getting my Orbi about a month ago, things were not working well (said connected to internet but web pages were ether taking forever to load or failing to load). I rebooted Orbi several times and then rebooted my cable modem.
After rebooting the cable modem (and then maybe the Orbi one more time), things instantly worked again.
I can only hope that firmware 2.0.0.72 was installed automatically today (I see this version is installed as per the Orbi's web admin UI) and caused this (hopefully one-time) connectivity issue.
Has anyone else experience this?
When did the v2.0.0.72 firmware install automatically for everyone else?
If worst comes to worst and I get disconnects again (if so maybe this is why Netgear suddenly pulled 2.0.0.72 from the downalods page??), then I will manually reinstall the previous firmware (1.12.0.18 which has been working great for a month).
Hoping this was a one-time issue though, fingers crossed.
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Orbi RBK53 AC3000 wifi system.
Firmware v2.0.0.72
I noticed with the new FW, that not all of my attached devices show up in the device list. I have about 20 devices, and the device list only shows 16. I can log into my devices and I know that they are attached to the router (they have an IP and can ping router), but are missing from the device list.
Huh, looks like they did pull it. Did an explicit check for firmware update and it says none available.
Damn. Getting close to having to toss this in the trash an buy something that works. My wife is getting pretty pissed off about the bad wifi at her desk (which is why we bought this thing). My satellite has been a sitting doing nothing for weeks.
PhysicalEd wrote:Huh, looks like they did pull it. Did an explicit check for firmware update and it says none available.
Damn. Getting close to having to toss this in the trash an buy something that works. My wife is getting pretty pissed off about the bad wifi at her desk (which is why we bought this thing). My satellite has been a sitting doing nothing for weeks.
Do you need it? I have it as .zip files on my PC for the RBR50 and the RBS50, plus I still have links that work.
PhysicalEd so is there a newer Firmware about to replace what was just released already?
I don't know... By default I'm still stuck on the broken firmware. I have a support ticket open thanks to a 1-star review on Amazon, and they sent me a Beta software agreement, but I haven't gotten anything else about actually getting new beta firmware.
- Still seeing some issues with this firmware. Streaming has been a big new problem. It keeps pausing and buffering. Apple tv mirroring issues delays. Seen couple disconnects.
Has the band steering issue been fixed?
I just got my Orbi system installed yesterday. I had a lot of fun doing speed tests. Then after about an hour I tested again and my speed was 1/3 what it was when I started(and in some cases slower than my router given by my ISP). I toggled wifi on/off on my device and it was back and then happened again.shortly after.
After some internet sleuthing I read about the band steering issue. So I looked for solutions. Albeit it's not the best solution, I forced the system into 2 seperate SSID's for 2.4 and 5ghz so I could pick which one a device specifically connected to. I'd prefer to let everything work as it was designed to but all my devices kept staying on 2.4 causing issues.
Hello everyone
If you are still seeing disconnects on the 2.0 firmware and have done a factory reset send me a PM with your name, email, and phone number and I will get you in contact with support to troubleshoot the issue.
DarrenM
Honestly, I am not seeing this band steering issue that is being spoken of.
I have 23 devices connected + 2 satellites. Everything appears to be connected to the proper band. The devices close by that can take advantage of 5 Ghz are using it and the ones further away I see are connected on 2.4Ghz.
I am not experiencing any dropouts, or streaming issues. I have 7 NAT rules to allow various connections into my network. I have the RBK50 purchased in Costo, and my cable modem 150Mb/16Mb up is running as a bridge directly to the Orbi on firmware 2.0 now.
I did have to turn off my UPnP which was the only issue I experienced with the Orbi, but otherwise the connections and the router have been rock solid stable. I'd have to guess that people that have customised settings probably triggered something in the software causing their own issues.
It amazes me how Netgear releases new firmware that is either retracted or is buggy. I don't know how new versions of firmware are quality tested but it's getting ridiculous. I spend so much time with each firmware upgrade dealing with magenta light that recurs.
At this point, i think its environment. Wireless is complex and no two homes are the same. Imagine developing software to try and account for every single situation. its pretty mind blowing.
I do wish that Netgear would take a page out of Apple's books and allow me to sign up for Beta firmware. It just seems theyv'e kept the beta tight to their chest with the result being not enough testing to actually discover and resolve issues in a timely manner.
aaz wrote:
I do wish that Netgear would take a page out of Apple's books and allow me to sign up for Beta firmware. It just seems theyv'e kept the beta tight to their chest with the result being not enough testing to actually discover and resolve issues in a timely manner.
um you might be shocked to know there is quite a big beta test community that actuvly work on the beta firmware ,
peteytesting wrote:
aaz wrote:I do wish that Netgear would take a page out of Apple's books and allow me to sign up for Beta firmware. It just seems theyv'e kept the beta tight to their chest with the result being not enough testing to actually discover and resolve issues in a timely manner.
um you might be shocked to know there is quite a big beta test community that actuvly work on the beta firmware ,
Well, I guess I am a part of it now by testing the 2.0 firmware that I found on the forum, but I am not aware of anything like the apple public beta program.
What did shock me is when I asked the netgear support person that I was working with if there was a beta firmware that I could try, they said no there was not, and then a day later I found it was posted on the forum.
Does anyone know what changed in V2.0.0.74 vs V2.0.0.72?
I'm in the midst of the update now - I manually uodated the firmware (that went fine), and did a full factory reset and NVRAM-clear so far...
I'm not too deep into rebuilding my settings yet, but I did notice that the 3 options for Implicit Beamforming, MU-MIMO, and Fast Transition are all UNchecked by default - IIRC, those were all checked by default in .72
I'm planning to leave all three unchecked myself, but we'll see how it goes!
Hydro130 wrote:I'm in the midst of the update now - I manually uodated the firmware (that went fine), and did a full factory reset and NVRAM-clear so far...
I'm not too deep into rebuilding my settings yet, but I did notice that the 3 options for Implicit Beamforming, MU-MIMO, and Fast Transition are all UNchecked by default - IIRC, those were all checked by default in .72
That has got to be a mistake in their clearing routine. I've found those options very stable on .72, and if they are not on .74 I'll revert back to .72 until the next release.
So, in this version - I see you can select implicit beamforming. Does that imply that - regardless of your choice here - explicit beamforming is always on?
thx!
i believe so
Thanks!
