I am running RBR50 with connected RBS50 both running the same firmware V2.7.4.24. The firmware version is irrelevant since this problem has dogged me since getting the routers.
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The issue
\nAfter everytime I use my laptop (macbook) to access the router admin, I am faced with the dreaded message.
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This is a result of the ever increasing paranoia about security with browser makers. If you are using Apple's own browser, you are even more likely to get this sort of piffle. You are lucky that it hasn't blocked you completely, a fate that has hit other Apple users:
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NETGEAR Mobile Applications and Apple Devices FAQ - NETGEAR Communities
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Some forum answers talk about specifying https instead of http, it is not this problem.\n\n
I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that this is not the problem. How did you work that out?
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This is why some browsers gag.
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Websites in the outside world should use https. If you are accessing things on your local network, your router's graphical user interface (GUI) for example, http is safe. But browsers are programmed to object.
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Of course, if you try to access you router from the outside world, using Anywhere Access for example, https is essential, which is why that is built into the system.
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User failure to understand how things work has been going on for years. So much so that Netgear added the option to set https as the preferred protocol.
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In many routers, go to Advanced Setup and look in Web Services Management and the Local Management checkbox.
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From time to time, someone turns up here screaming about their \"broken\" router when what they have done is told it to Always Use HTTPS to Access Router. Doing this blocks various things so they usually go back and this turn off.
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I loathe this product and right now would never recommend it.\n\n
If you reached that conclusion on the basis of that misleading error message, I fear that you may have to abandon the Internet. What you are describing is a \"feature\" of modern browsers and routers.
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microchip8 wrote:
You don't mention which browser you use.
Good point.
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Trikon mentions using a Macbook. Macs can mean Safari.
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I forget to mention this in my reply. It adds another layer of complexity. Some Netgear manuals specifically warn that Safari can't be used for some functions, such as Password Recovery.
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That warning isn't there for newer devices. So either Safari has changed or Netgear has worked out how to handle the issue.
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But, as you say, Trikon's beef nothing to do with the router.
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microchip8 wrote:
You don't mention which browser you use.
Good point.
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Trikon mentions using a Macbook. Macs can mean Safari.
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I forget to mention this in my reply. It adds another layer of complexity. Some Netgear manuals specifically warn that Safari can't be used for some functions, such as Password Recovery.
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That warning isn't there for newer devices. So either Safari has changed or Netgear has worked out how to handle the issue.
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But, as you say, Trikon's beef nothing to do with the router.
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Trikon wrote:
\nI am running RBR50 with connected RBS50 both running the same firmware V2.7.4.24. The firmware version is irrelevant since this problem has dogged me since getting the routers.
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The issue
\nAfter everytime I use my laptop (macbook) to access the router admin, I am faced with the dreaded message.
\nYour connection is not private
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This is a result of the ever increasing paranoia about security with browser makers. If you are using Apple's own browser, you are even more likely to get this sort of piffle. You are lucky that it hasn't blocked you completely, a fate that has hit other Apple users:
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NETGEAR Mobile Applications and Apple Devices FAQ - NETGEAR Communities
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Some forum answers talk about specifying https instead of http, it is not this problem.\n\n
I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that this is not the problem. How did you work that out?
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This is why some browsers gag.
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Websites in the outside world should use https. If you are accessing things on your local network, your router's graphical user interface (GUI) for example, http is safe. But browsers are programmed to object.
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Of course, if you try to access you router from the outside world, using Anywhere Access for example, https is essential, which is why that is built into the system.
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User failure to understand how things work has been going on for years. So much so that Netgear added the option to set https as the preferred protocol.
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In many routers, go to Advanced Setup and look in Web Services Management and the Local Management checkbox.
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From time to time, someone turns up here screaming about their \"broken\" router when what they have done is told it to Always Use HTTPS to Access Router. Doing this blocks various things so they usually go back and this turn off.
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I loathe this product and right now would never recommend it.\n\n
If you reached that conclusion on the basis of that misleading error message, I fear that you may have to abandon the Internet. What you are describing is a \"feature\" of modern browsers and routers.
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\"I don't know how you arrived at the conclusion that this is not the problem. How did you work that out?\"
The problem occurs if I enter https URLs directs, I am not trying to access HTTP addresses.
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Trikon wrote:
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The problem occurs if I enter https URLs directs, I am not trying to access HTTP addresses.
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That does not suddenly turn an http link into https.
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\"From time to time, someone turns up here screaming about their \"broken\" router when what they have done is told it to Always Use HTTPS to Access Router. Doing this blocks various things so they usually go back and this turn off.
I loathe this product and right now would never recommend it.
If you reached that conclusion on the basis of that misleading error message, I fear that you may have to abandon the Internet. What you are describing is a \"feature\" of modern browsers and routers.\"
For you informaiton, I find these remarks vaguely condescending and rather dismissive - not really what I was expecting in a help forum. For your information, I have been working in IT since 1985 and have been an internet user since 1994. I think I can consider myself quite good at problem diagnosis, I may be a software expert but not a networking expert.
This problem only occurs immediately after logging on to the router https://10.0.0.1 to add new devices to the network via access control. It does not occur at any other time. I use the latest version of Chrome. It seems to be a wifi issue because when I connect via wired, I get access fine.
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Trikon wrote:
\nThis problem only occurs immediately after logging on to the router https://10.0.0.1 to add new devices to the network via access control.
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How many routers do you have on your network?
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What is the modem/gateway/ONT that connects you to the Internet.
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I ask because by default Netgear's routers allocate themselves the address 192.168.1.1. They will only go for 10.0.0.1 if they spot a possible conflict. That can happen when someone tries to add a router to a modem/router.
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Do that and you can end up; with all manner of problems.
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\n
It seems to be a wifi issue because when I connect via wired, I get access fine.
All of a sudden we have a different issue, and a different set of details.Again, the problem, appears to be in your network rather than the router.
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What is it that you really want to fix?
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In general, the advice from experienced users is to do as much as possible with a wired connection. Wifi is not reliable enough.
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\"Two routers on a network is a recipe for chaos?\"
Two ORBI Routers - A Base router and a satellite router - it's a mesh network.
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Trikon wrote:
\nTwo ORBI Routers - A Base router and a satellite router - it's a mesh network.
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No it isn't. Mesh means satellites and routers talking to one another to manage wifi links. That communication won't work between two routers.
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Maybe you have two mesh networks with the same SSID. That's not the same thing as one mesh network.
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Two routers = trouble.
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Regardless of their brand and claimed wifi features.
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If these routers are the same model, then you best bet would be to remove one of them and stick with the satellites.
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As it is, your two routers will find it impossible to coexist with the same local IP address. Perhaps that is why you have one that is not on the default 192.168.1.1. (I assume that you just made a mistake when you referred to 192.16.1.1.)
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