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Readynas OS6 future requests
1)
Snapshot function on Home folders.
2)
Snapshot cleanup Schedule/option for each share, e.g. be able to set that only snapshots up to 30 days should be kept - Automatic delete older snapshots
3)
Option to start ReadySYNC client automatically for each NAS on Readynas Remote client
4)
Add an ignore, delete or quarantine file option to virus detections
Also see my buglist at http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=154&t=72312
Snapshot function on Home folders.
2)
Snapshot cleanup Schedule/option for each share, e.g. be able to set that only snapshots up to 30 days should be kept - Automatic delete older snapshots
3)
Option to start ReadySYNC client automatically for each NAS on Readynas Remote client
4)
Add an ignore, delete or quarantine file option to virus detections
Also see my buglist at http://www.readynas.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=154&t=72312
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- Hi There,
I came accross this :
http://www.own-mailbox.com
Similar easy implementation of a secure mail server by software, would make a cool feature for OS6 ! At least to me setting up correctly a mail server always sounded difficult.
Regards,A few things to request:
1. Record all events in the Log File. Presently, the log file seems to only record "selected" events, inconsistently. For example, start of "DISK RESYNC" after a hot-swap is not reported, but the change from "RESYNC" to "ONLINE" is recorded. See message text for the latter, cut&pasted from my log.
Tue Aug 11 2015 3:46:09 Disk: Disk in channel '2' (Internal) changed state from RESYNC to ONLINE. 2. Disambiguate terminology, and use terms consistently, across all tools (RAIDar, Admin Console, log file, pop-ups in Windows Tray, etc.) and documentation. For example, these terms used in log messages, GUI for Admin Console, are inconsistently used to refer to different events, activities, and specific objects (disks vs. Volumes, vs. LUN's, etc.Disambiguate == Better User Experience == Less support cost to NETGEAR == happier customers == more sales == More Profits == BIGGER R&D budgets == More COOL Innovation and Features == loop-back into this cool cycle !!!
For example, to reduce confusion in messaging. "Rebuild." "RESYNC," "ONLINE," "Degraded," "Redundant", and so on should be used with one, proper object (gramatically speaking). The object f these terms should always be stated as either: "System <name>," "Volume <name>," or "Disk <channel#>."
3. Do not allow software engineers to design user interfaces. Add 1 good UI designer, and give them authority over all tools to have a richer, but common GUI - and ultimately an exceptional "User Experience" (see cycle in 2 to defend, why this hire is the most important. SW engineers and programmers will be happier, and more productive, if they don't have to do the GUI design work. That one good UI designer should develop a "GUI Style Guide," that outlines the "specification" for the "framework" for User Interfaces, messaging, vernacular, terminology, grammar, and so on - consistently - with extensions to all supported UI languages (English to Chinese to Arabic, and so on). This is super-old innovation - companies like Autodesk Inc., were able to ship software in 22 languages, simultaneously, as early as the mid 1980's. No need to reinvent the wheel, just choose a well vetted open-source language tool set and follow what everyone else has already done - and empower one authority over all domains to evaluate and drive consistency across software engineering. Give that role to the "1 good UI designer."
4. Use a GUI Style Guide (developed by the one good UI designer with authority to do it) to use consistent display of messages Upper Case or Lower Case - should be consistent "ONLINE" vs. "Redunant" in the example here from my LOG file. And, either use quotation marks or don't use quotation marks, consistently, in system messaging, software tools (RAIDar, Admin Console, etc.) and Documenation.
Tue Aug 11 2015 3:46:09 Disk: Disk in channel '2' (Internal) changed state from RESYNC to ONLINE. Tue Aug 11 2015 3:46:07 Volume: Volume 'data' health changed from 'Degraded' to 'Redundant'. 5. Reboot events in the Log File would be more informative if they indicated how they were initiated. I've see reboot events initiated by AntiVirus, and other reasons (or drawn that conclusion - because of no information written in the log.
6. "ReadyNAS has started" events would be far more valuable if they noted the version of ReadyNAS OS, and the firmware version from the registry tables.
Mon Aug 10 2015 21:25:37 System: ReadyNASOS background service started. Mon Aug 10 2015 21:20:12 System: The system is rebooting. FWIW, I LOVE my ReadyNAS 104. The more I use it, the more I love it - and the more I want to make it perfect !
7. Admin console should NOT allow a firmware update if a hot-swap has been initiated - or for that matter, any disk error, or volume "degraded" condition. In the Admin console, say an update is available, but will only be installed after the current system condition is restored to "online" and "redundant." (OR do 8, below... Ask your new GUI designer which approach would be better!)
8. OR, Tell the user in a firmware error message to be displayed (in the admin console, etc.) indicating that the "Firmware update will not interfere with disk resync and volume rebuild process you have recently initiated. Continue safely with the reboot." (Assuming that is completely failsafe and true.)
- CPU counters would need to take into account multiple cores.
Furthermore when it comes to RAM, what's not important is how much RAM is free, but rather how much is free + how much is being used for caching. The memory can be pretty much all in use and the system working fine. What is a concern is if there is lots of swapping. - I'd be quite happy with a CPU / RAM used counter (like the Synology DSM has), and surely it would be trivial to add those counters into the performance section?
Talking of which, being able to select which performance counters are shown, and being able to reorder of those counters would be beneficial. eg: I have no need for utilisation over time, and look at IOs rarely. CPU, temp and data rates are more important to me. Also making the counters 'remember' if they are in a minimised or viewed state, ideally past reboots.
Otherwise, have a basic / advanced toggle for the performance section and have simple dials or bars in the basic section, and put all the good power user stuff and RTG graphing in advanced.
And to finish off with more of a unicorn request than one for a pony :D - a VirtualBox / Docker app for higher-specced units would be amazing. - We'd go for reliability over speed. Syncing the disk sector by sector is the best way to go using md raid.
- re: Even if we allowed that it would still need to process one disk at a time to expand an existing array. The disks have to be synced sector by sector.
There are some advantages to parallel rebuild, but there are even easier improvements that can be made. Has netgear investigated using bitmaps, adjusting the the stripe_cache_size based on available memory, or disabling NCQ? I believe all of these would help and they are relatively simple tweaks. Bitmaps especially mean that only the used parts of the disks will get rebuilt and can be a huge win.
steve deploylinux wrote: Finally threw the towel in our 8yr old(?) NV here (yes, the original NV, not the NV+)...during the last few months, it actually had a power supply failure which gave off smoke, and after replacing the PS - I found that it had actually corrupted data.
8 years is a good run. Hope you had a backup.deploylinux wrote:
In any case, the new R516 with 6.2.4 arrived, and I have some feedback/future requests:
Thanks for the feedback/requests. I will pass these on.
- The add on feature seems very confused right now, some users apparently complain that it makes their systems more unreliable to install some addons, there is no statement that security sensitive addons will be updated in a timely manner to address security patches/etc...would I risk installing the dns server plugin on the R516? if so, which of the apparently several plugins?
Please put together a clear policy on which addons are maintained/not maintained and if they will be removed....as it is, you have an app store with unclear policies.deploylinux wrote:
- Automatic rebuild good, rebuild times...worrying. OK, I was in a rush to start and installed the 516 with just two disks, additional drives arrived later...however, I now have to wait 1-2 days for resync to finish for each of the following 4 drives? So, 4-8 days to get my 2 drive raid 1 config to 6 drive raid6? yes, I appreciate no downtime during this process, but perhaps have a way for me to add multiple drives before starting the automatic rebuild?
Even if we allowed that it would still need to process one disk at a time to expand an existing array. The disks have to be synced sector by sector.deploylinux wrote:
- Readynas vault pricing is high, but this seems to be integrated very well and have some excellent functionality. I do hate that I'm essentially paying twice for backup functionality on the 516...the free backup code and addons just don't interact well with other solutions I was considering, and I needed versioning and archive retention configured separately on each share. What is neat is that the vault autodetects all the shares, and prompts for backup settings for each. Long term, I think Vault needs to have a discount for 2-3 year contract commitments, perhaps another 20% off the current annual price..and it needs to support the largest file sizes it can..unclear what it actually supports now. Yes, archive my movie mkv's in the vault.. I plan to investigate the reporting functionality soon.
There are other backups options you can use too such as ReadyNAS Replicate to another ReadyNAS which you may wish to consider.deploylinux wrote:
Is there a new backup client also for Linux, or will linux users always be stuck with rsync over ssh to the nas?
There isn't a ReadyCloud client for Linux. Thanks for the request.deploylinux wrote:
- CPU Utilization/process list view requires logging in via ssh, didn't see this shown anywhere from the web ui?
This isn't in the UI. It's a difficult one as some users would find such a list confusing while experienced admins would find it very useful.
One would think that most users looking to go to these lengths in troubleshooting themselves would be comfortable with using SSH.deploylinux wrote:
- There doesn't seem to be anyway to prioritize some shares over others? e.g. if nas is very busy, i/o to the finance share should be prioritized over the music share? No way to guarentee a minimum amount of free space on each share, or a max size for each? or, even a min io ops/second...much like vmware does in esx for each VM. Yes, it's excellent that they all expand as needed...but I see the new interface promoting the use of more shares and it would be nice to have some way to ensure that any resource contention between shares is as the owner wishes.
For prioritising I/O for different shares, I don't think samba supports this. But if it does it may be achievable by creating an /etc/frontview/samba/smb.conf.overrides with the necessary config entries. Prioritising I/O would need to be done for each protocol in use (SMB, NFS, FTP etc.) so even if there is a way for one protocol that may not solve the problem. As for quotas we don't support those at this time.- Finally threw the towel in our 8yr old(?) NV here (yes, the original NV, not the NV+)...during the last few months, it actually had a power supply failure which gave off smoke, and after replacing the PS - I found that it had actually corrupted data.
In any case, the new R516 with 6.2.4 arrived, and I have some feedback/future requests:
- The add on feature seems very confused right now, some users apparently complain that it makes their systems more unreliable to install some addons, there is no statement that security sensitive addons will be updated in a timely manner to address security patches/etc...would I risk installing the dns server plugin on the R516? if so, which of the apparently several plugins?
Please put together a clear policy on which addons are maintained/not maintained and if they will be removed....as it is, you have an app store with unclear policies.
- Automatic rebuild good, rebuild times...worrying. OK, I was in a rush to start and installed the 516 with just two disks, additional drives arrived later...however, I now have to wait 1-2 days for resync to finish for each of the following 4 drives? So, 4-8 days to get my 2 drive raid 1 config to 6 drive raid6? yes, I appreciate no downtime during this process, but perhaps have a way for me to add multiple drives before starting the automatic rebuild?
- Readynas vault pricing is high, but this seems to be integrated very well and have some excellent functionality. I do hate that I'm essentially paying twice for backup functionality on the 516...the free backup code and addons just don't interact well with other solutions I was considering, and I needed versioning and archive retention configured separately on each share. What is neat is that the vault autodetects all the shares, and prompts for backup settings for each. Long term, I think Vault needs to have a discount for 2-3 year contract commitments, perhaps another 20% off the current annual price..and it needs to support the largest file sizes it can..unclear what it actually supports now. Yes, archive my movie mkv's in the vault.. I plan to investigate the reporting functionality soon.
- I am still reviewing the new pc->readynas functionality from the readynas cloud...I wish it would more closely emulate how ibackup's client works..and not be focused on single directories. And, I don't need continuous backups of many directories...daily will do. Is there a new backup client also for Linux, or will linux users always be stuck with rsync over ssh to the nas?
- CPU Utilization/process list view requires logging in via ssh, didn't see this shown anywhere from the web ui?
- There doesn't seem to be anyway to prioritize some shares over others? e.g. if nas is very busy, i/o to the finance share should be prioritized over the music share? No way to guarentee a minimum amount of free space on each share, or a max size for each? or, even a min io ops/second...much like vmware does in esx for each VM. Yes, it's excellent that they all expand as needed...but I see the new interface promoting the use of more shares and it would be nice to have some way to ensure that any resource contention between shares is as the owner wishes.
- Creating users should have some way of automatically notifying those users of their new account and letting them set their own password..or I suppose this wasn't implemented because it was assumed that larger shops would integrate with existing active directory setups. - I'd like a way to schedule WoL for other devices. There is a way to do this in OS 4.2.x for backups - which is enough, but I'd prefer a separate utility/schedule as well as being able to wake the remote backup device. I use this feature now in OS4 to wake my PCs on schedule, but I need to create a dummy backup job for each PC to do it.
- Lpt print server functionality, like in OS 4.x.x
The ability to set ownership and GUID for all files in a share to whatever the user wishes; this is important to maintain compatibility for backups (such as rsync) from legacy systems.
It's not nice when system upgrades omit valuable functionality found in prior versions. I was not happy to find that the print server function had gone by the wayside. - The ability to select more than 1 Snapshot at a time to be deleted would be an advantage. Its very slow deleting 1 at a time, a simple check box above each timestamp/marker would suffice then hit Delete.
On the Snapshot schedule facility, add in the Option of Monthly.
Also the ability to share Sub folders as I posted before would be great.
Thanks
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