Replacing Nv+ with pro 6?

For a new setup to configure dual-redundancy from the start you'll need four or more disks installed:

I recommend:
i. Put one disk in the NAS
ii. Do a factory reset if necessary.
iii. Upgrade to latest RAIDiator (be sure to reboot when prompted to install the update) and verify update was successful.
iv. Do a factory reset with four or more disks in place either via System > Update > Factory default or via the boot menu (http://www.readynas.com/kb/faq/boot/how_do_i_use_the_boot_menu)
v. Discover the NAS using the latest RAIDar (http://www.readynas.com/downloads)
vi. There will be a few tests run and then a 10 minute countdown will commence. Click setup during the 10 minute countdown
vii. Choose X-RAID2, tick dual-redundancy and confirm your choice

You can migrate to dual-redundancy later if you don't fill all drive bays from the start: http://support.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/19044/~/converting-and-xraid2-system-to-dual-redundancy

If you like the peace of mind of enterprise drives they do provide a good benefit. They are designed for 24/7 heavy use and use in RAID arrays. I don't use enterprise drives, but that's my choice.

Eaegis still sells the Pro 6: http://www.eaegis.com/netgear-readynas-pro-6-bay-high-desktop-storage.aspx

its strange that aegis carrys them; i looked at their product selector/6 drives, and it didnt show up.
also netgears site doesnt list them as carrying the product.

but they did a good job on the last 2, so i'll try them again. thanks!

Yeah, eAegis doesn't appear to promote the Netgear products, but if you use their search box you can find them.

I have installed two Hitachi 3TB 5400 RPM drives in my two NVX units (along with two of the original Seagate 1TB drives). They seem to be doing well. When searching for the newer Hitachi drives, you need to be persistent. The HCL list shows the drive models, but Hitachi had opaque anti-static bags so you can read the disk label. The label on the anti-static bag only has the part no (P/N) of the drive, not the model.

In my case the HDS5C3030ALA630 OEM drive is listed on Newegg as 0S03230 but when you look at the image detail you can read the model number. The same drive with retail packaging is listed as 0S03228 but again the image shows the correct part no. (The retail image is not the same image used for the OEM drive). The 7K3000 drive HDS723030ALA640 is listed on some sites as P/N 0F12450. It is harder to find as Newegg does not list it.

With my NVX and the way I use it, I have not noted any slower performance with the 5400 RPM drives, but with the Pro6 it may be a little different since it has a much faster processor.

If I had the money and was after a Pro6, I would just let eAegis install 4x3TB drives and do the testing. A while back I priced one out and found I could not buy a Pro6 from eAegis and then buy the drives separately (even from eAegis) anywhere and install them than I could get the Pro6 with the drives, and as you said tested and initialized. Why the don't make the Netgear products easier to find, I don't know.

im narrowing in on what to do here. Pro 6 with 6 3TB drives should hold me for a few years

the question is which drives. i have been using just enterprise drives up to now, but....there seems to be an argument for the the cheaper consumer versions, and they are listed on the compatibility charts, so im looking at those also. but i have to have something officially supported.

ive narrowed the choices between:

Hitachi Deskstar 7K3000
Seagate Constellation ST33000650NS

they are both on the approved list.

they both have the rotational vibration safeguard, but the hitachi is about $200 and the seagate about $330, 50% adder. Not too bad over the 5 year life of the drive i suppose, but im not sure these days how much reliability improvement i'll get with the enterprise.

any comments?

The Deskstar is technically not an enterprise drive. Their enterprise class drives are called Ultrastar. The Deskstar is a very good consumer class drive sort of like the Seagate Barracuda XT. Ironically enough the HDS723030ALA640 has the rotational vibration safeguard but only the 3 year warranty whereas the Seagate Barracuda XT ST33000651AS has a 5 year warranty but not the rotational vibration safeguard.

The Ultrastar HUA723030ALA640 has both the 5 year warranty and the rotational vibration safeguard and the price to go with it, listing on Newegg for $340 and $348 on Amazon.

i eliminated the barracuda for the lack of rotational vibration safeguard

thats why i was comparing the deskstar to the constellation

I was only using it for comparative purposes. The Deskstar is a very good compromise because of the rotational vibration. I have had all Seagates in my units, but my last drives were the HDS5C3030ALA630 3TB "Green" drives. They are performing very well for me, but have been in service for less than 3 months, so we shall see. The Hitachi drives seem to have a very good service record.

PapaBear wrote:
I was only using it for comparative purposes. The Deskstar is a very good compromise because of the rotational vibration. I have had all Seagates in my units, but my last drives were the HDS5C3030ALA630 3TB "Green" drives. They are performing very well for me, but have been in service for less than 3 months, so we shall see. The Hitachi drives seem to have a very good service record.

i understand.

im concerned about the lack of vibrational resistance in the standard seagate drives since 6 of these things are right next to each other, and i dont need the downtime.

still trying to figure if the price difference is warranted between the deskstar and constellation. the hitachi ultrastar is much more expensive than the constellation, but if you can believe the stats, has a 2Million hour mtbf, vs 1.2 for the constellation and 1 for the others. but that stat means nothing if its MY drive that dies....

Looks like Newegg no longer will have the Seagate Consellation - the product has been deactivated on their site. ExcaliberPC has it for $305 and CDW has it for $339, but then they are always higher.

PapaBear wrote:
Looks like Newegg no longer will have the Seagate Consellation - the product has been deactivated on their site. ExcaliberPC has it for $305 and CDW has it for $339, but then they are always higher.

any clue as to why? discontinued/new model/??

wonder if i should wait a couple weeks.