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RN 104 freezing/not responding/locking up with FW 6.4.0
RN 104 keeps freezing and becomes unresponsive (even the lcd screen freezes). I have to disconnect the power supply everytime. It tries to resync the data, but it freezes at random points. 3x 1 TB ...
azerva wrote:
Hi everyone,
I don't know about everybody here, but having Netgear asking us to just have another 8 TB lying around in disk space to be able to perform a factory reset is an outrage to me.
I don't work for Netgear, and certainly don't want to spend my life doing factory resets. But I don't find the "I don't have the 8 TB lying around" line very compelling.
As far as I'm concerned, if you care about your data you need to back it up. If you don't do that, then you will eventually lose your data. You shouldn't trust your data to a single device, and RAID isn't enough to keep your data safe.
Two 4TB USB drives can be found for ~$300 US total. That is much cheaper (and more certain) than data recovery.
Hi Stephen,
thanks for your reply. The point is not wether my data is worth x amount of money or not. The point is that if I spend the money on the drives + the additional money on a RAID capable NAS, I expect to get some use out of it. If having a Netgear means I just need to buy the double amount of storage, I can forget RAID and just invest the money I spent on the NAS in other backup drives and just make copies of my data like I did before the NAS.
The point of a RAID-capable NAS is to provide a certain degree of safety (1 drive outage). I am happy with this level of risk. The fact that the product is unreliable and forces me to buy more drives is the issue. I guess what I want to say most is that I feel that the ReadyNAS community - however great it is - very quickly ends up saying that one should just backup everything because "you never know".
That being said, this is pretty offtopic. My $300 NAS is resyncing for the 3rd time in the past month :)
Cheers
Alex
azerva wrote:
The point of a RAID-capable NAS is to provide a certain degree of safety (1 drive outage). ... I can forget RAID and just invest the money I spent on the NAS in other backup drives and just make copies of my data like I did before the NAS.My view is that the point of RAID is to keep your data available during routine storage expansion and disk replacement. For businesses that is extremely important. For home users it is usually more a convenience feature.
Independent of RAID, the NAS allows me to consolidate my data, so it is not scattered across the various PCs and mobile devices we have in the house.
While RAID does provides some level of safety, I think you actually are better off with a second independent copy of your data instead of RAID. A second copy often is more cost effective than and I think it is safer.
azerva wrote:
the ReadyNAS community - however great it is - very quickly ends up saying that one should just backup everything because "you never know".
My own views on backup were formed long before I had a ReadyNAS (and I learned through direct experience that even single backups were not enough).
I push backup here because I still see far too many posts from people who have lost their data because they assumed RAID was enough. And its not about whether ReadyNAS is reliable enough.
I've found that no single device (RAID or not) is reliable enough. I've had single disks fail, magnetic tapes fail, DVD/CD media and USB disks that weren't readable when I tried to restore data, and RAID array failures. And sometimes I've deleted data by mistake.
So many years ago I started keeping three copies of everything I care about. So far that's been enough.
azerva wrote:
That being said, this is pretty offtopic. My $300 NAS is resyncing for the 3rd time in the past month :)
I agree that the recent firmware releases created way too many issues for ReadyNAS owners.
I have finally been able to back up my RN104 RAID after a lot of difficulty. In the end I realised that the 6GB disk I bought was slightly less than 6GB (5.5GB) and the built in backup software does not seem to know it has filled the external drive. Once it is full it dies. So I backed it up using a PC on the same network. The whole process has now taken 4 weeks or so.
I must admit I have been very unimpressed by all this. Before this disaster I was about to buy another Netgear NAS drive and I have changed my mind about that.
Can someone confirm that the fix is still to do a factory reset and copy all the data back to the NAS please?
Kevin
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