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BJB
Dec 16, 2017Aspirant
RN214 or RN424 for RN104 user
Greetings. I am not a new user but it seems like this is the right place to post this question hopefully. I am a RN104 user that needs expansion and it looks like the RN104 does not support external ...
- Dec 17, 2017
BJB wrote:
I have read just about every post on the current model line so am somewhat up to speed. I have narrowed it down to the RN214 or RN424. Unless something new is coming out I missed?The RN400 series is the newest desktop platform, so you haven't missed anything.
BJB wrote:
Would the RN214 be faster than my RN104?Yes. The RN214 large file transfer speeds (read and write) are > 100 MB/sec.
Your RN104's speeds are about 80 MB/sec read and ~40 MB/sec write.
BJB wrote:
Will the RN214 suffice or should I consider the RN424?If I understand your usage correctly, either will do. If you want more bays, then that would tilt you to the RN400 series. Note that Netgear is beginning to roll out SSD tiering, which will improve small file transfers and directory browsing - right now that requires 2 slots for the SSDs.
Warranty is longer on the x86 NAS. There are some business features (ReadyDR backup, some performance graphs) which are limited to business NAS.
Also, the current family of x86 NAS (400-600 series) all ship with drive trays that support the alternate mount points that are common on large capacity drives. The RN200 series trays didn't include those newer trays at first release, I'm not sure what trays they include now.
BJB wrote:
It looks like they both support up to 10TB drives? What are the preferred drives these days?Personally I use WDC Reds (largest is 8 TB). They are fast enough for my purposes, and I like the cooler temps and lower power usage. Seagate Ironwolfs are equivalent.
Folks who want enterprise-class seem to like WDC Red Pro or gold, Seagate IronWolf Pro. I haven't seen many posts on the Seagate Exos yet, though they were just launched.
StephenB
Dec 17, 2017Guru - Experienced User
BJB wrote:
I have read just about every post on the current model line so am somewhat up to speed. I have narrowed it down to the RN214 or RN424. Unless something new is coming out I missed?
The RN400 series is the newest desktop platform, so you haven't missed anything.
BJB wrote:
Would the RN214 be faster than my RN104?
Yes. The RN214 large file transfer speeds (read and write) are > 100 MB/sec.
Your RN104's speeds are about 80 MB/sec read and ~40 MB/sec write.
BJB wrote:
Will the RN214 suffice or should I consider the RN424?
If I understand your usage correctly, either will do. If you want more bays, then that would tilt you to the RN400 series. Note that Netgear is beginning to roll out SSD tiering, which will improve small file transfers and directory browsing - right now that requires 2 slots for the SSDs.
Warranty is longer on the x86 NAS. There are some business features (ReadyDR backup, some performance graphs) which are limited to business NAS.
Also, the current family of x86 NAS (400-600 series) all ship with drive trays that support the alternate mount points that are common on large capacity drives. The RN200 series trays didn't include those newer trays at first release, I'm not sure what trays they include now.
BJB wrote:
It looks like they both support up to 10TB drives? What are the preferred drives these days?
Personally I use WDC Reds (largest is 8 TB). They are fast enough for my purposes, and I like the cooler temps and lower power usage. Seagate Ironwolfs are equivalent.
Folks who want enterprise-class seem to like WDC Red Pro or gold, Seagate IronWolf Pro. I haven't seen many posts on the Seagate Exos yet, though they were just launched.
BJB
Jan 12, 2018Aspirant
Stephen,
I see the WD Red 10TB WD100EFAX is still not listed on the compatibility chart which gives me pause.
In your travels have you seen users begin to install and use these? Any feedback as to noise, heat, speed, etc. vs. the Ironwolf 10TB or Ultrastar which is listed?
Thanks,
BJB
- StephenBJan 12, 2018Guru - Experienced User
BJB wrote:
I see the WD Red 10TB WD100EFAX is still not listed on the compatibility chart which gives me pause.
I'll see if I can find out more on that. Possibly they just haven't tested it yet.
The ironwolf has a faster peak transfer rate (210 vs 178 MB/sec), spins at 7200 rpm, and has enterprise specs for URE. It also uses more power than the Red (7.8 watts vs 5.7 watts).
The Ultrastar is similar to the Ironwolf, but uses somewhat less power (6.8 vs 7.8). It might be a bit noisier. The picture of the ultrastar shows a side-hole, so the tool-less mounting insert can be used. The Ironwolf doesn't (so you'd need to remove the insert and screw the drive into the tray).
Certainly folks are using the Ironwolf. I suspect some are using the Reds also, but I don't recall posts on that off-hand.
- BJBJan 13, 2018AspirantStephen,
Thanks for the info. Both my new Ironwolfs are making noise when NAS at idle. Not the helium whining sound more like random clunks then a chunk write over and over. If the Reds would be more silent at idle willing to try. I understand the RPM vs. Noise/heat tradeoff but what I am hearing is not RPM noise.
Thanks,
BJB- StephenBJan 13, 2018Guru - Experienced User
You might first try Seagate support - I recall other posters saying there was a drive firmware upgrade for this.
WDC Reds in general are pretty quiet, but the biggest model I use myself is the 8 TB one.
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