WD2002FYPS - 2TB

infrant.delta wrote:
In my opinion these 2.0TB Western Digital drives are great and work well with the ReadyNAS Pro, but only if you remember to apply the "WDIDLE3.EXE" Idle 3 timer change beyond the default 12.8 seconds to the WD2002FYPS firmware!

Hey Infrant.Delta, I just wanted to say that I appreciate all the info you've posted. I have an order of WD2002FYPS's coming someday and a new empty Pioneer awaiting them. As a non-IT type, I'll be happy to hear all blow-by-blow install info so I can follow suit. Cheers!

Great post, thanks. I have ordered four of these beasts and I'm a bit a concerned now...
It was good to read your about your experiences. There are two things that left me puzzled, though.
First, according to WD support site, they upgraded WD1000FYPS firmware so that idle 3 timer was increased to 5 minutes. Why on earth they didn't apply that to WD2002FYPS as well?

Secondly, standard Linux system syncs filesystems every 30 seconds. Therefore there shouldn't be any difference in your setup. You should still encounter 120 LCC per hour whilst idling. Unless you have tweaked your system's sync timer to less than 24.5 sec. Or wdildle3 actually disables IntelliPark in RE4-GP.

Quicker wrote:
First, according to WD support site, they upgraded WD1000FYPS firmware so that idle 3 timer was increased to 5 minutes. Why on earth they didn't apply that to WD2002FYPS as well?

Hmmm... It could be that the firmware in my drives are "old". It would be interesting to see which version you get when you unpack your drives.

Quicker wrote:
Secondly, standard Linux system syncs filesystems every 30 seconds. Therefore there shouldn't be any difference in your setup. You should still encounter 120 LCC per hour whilst idling. Unless you have tweaked your system's sync timer to less than 24.5 sec. Or wdildle3 actually disables IntelliPark in RE4-GP.

I think it's probably a question the Jedi can answer as far as manufacturer tweaks. I haven't applied any system tweaks, except for actively disabling services that are not required in my environment (Apple Bonjour services, UPNP, etc)

It could be possible that there are other ReadyNAS services (X-RAID2?) that actively access the drives between > 12.8 and < 25.4 seconds.

infrant.delta wrote:
Hmmm... It could be that the firmware in my drives are "old". It would be interesting to see which version you get when you unpack your drives.

Could be. I'll post my findings here when I get my disks. Now that we know this issue was actually addressed and corrected in the past I think this is defininitely something that WD should take even more seriously now ....

infrant.delta wrote:
I think it's probably a question the Jedi can answer as far as manufacturer tweaks. I haven't applied any system tweaks, except for actively disabling services that are not required in my environment (Apple Bonjour services, UPNP, etc) It could be possible that there are other ReadyNAS services (X-RAID2?) that actively access the drives between > 12.8 and < 25.4 seconds.

Yeah, that is possible too. Some service or RAID itself. Well, at least you have a healthy system now :)

infrant.delta wrote:
It could be that the firmware in my drives are "old". It would be interesting to see which version you get when you unpack your drives.

OK. UPS delivered my drives. Followed by happy configuring session and long hours of RAID resyncing.

Bottom line: exactly the same drive firmware, exactly the same symptoms. LCC is increasing very rapidly. Sigh. Sorry I don't have your endurance in reporting everything here :) but my S.M.A.R.T. reports look basicly the same as yours before your idle 3 timer tweak. I even noted that Power on Hours was 240 hrs (or little more) on each drive! Maybe they "pre-burn" electronics at the factory for ten days to find faulty units.

Quicker wrote:

Bottom line: exactly the same drive firmware, exactly the same symptoms. LCC is increasing very rapidly. Sigh. Sorry I don't have your endurance in reporting everything here :) but my S.M.A.R.T. reports look basicly the same as yours before your idle 3 timer tweak. I even noted that Power on Hours was 240 hrs (or little more) on each drive! Maybe they "pre-burn" electronics at the factory for ten days to find faulty units.

All looks good on my side so far with the LCC only increasing by 100 after about 250 hours. :D The increase in 100 is probably accounted for by the NAS automatically powering off for 8 hours per day and the drives being put to sleep by the NAS after 20 minutes of inactivity.

SMART Information for Disk 1

Model: WDC WD2002FYPS-01U1B0
Serial: WD-WCAVY-----44
Firmware: 04.05G04

SMART Attribute
Raw Read Error Rate 0 ; Spin Up Time 9283 ; Start Stop Count 108 ; Reallocated Sector Count 0 ; Seek Error Rate 0 ; Power On Hours 559 ; Spin Retry Count 0 ; Calibration Retry Count 0 ; Power Cycle Count 26 ; Power-Off Retract Count 6 ; Load Cycle Count 2017 ; Temperature Celsius 41 ; Reallocated Event Count 0 ; Current Pending Sector 0 ; Offline Uncorrectable 0 ; UDMA CRC Error Count 0 ; Multi Zone Error Rate 0 ; ATA Error Count 0

Further information that might help ... I have the following Performance options set ...

[x] Enable disk write cache. Disk write cache allows ...
[x] Disable full data journaling. Full data journaling makes a backup ...
[x] Disable journaling. Journaling allows very quick file system ...
[ ] Optimize for OS X. Enable this option for best performance in Mac OS X ...
[x] Enable fast CIFS writes. This option allows for optimal write performance ...
[ ] Enable fast USB disk writes. This option speeds up USB write access by ...

... And the following Power options set.

[x] Enable disk spin-down after 20 minutes of inactivity.
[x] Enable power timer ...
[ ] Enable monitoring of UPS physically attached to a remote ReadyNAS.
[ ] Enable Wake-on-LAN service.

@Quicker ... Did you try the 255 or 254 (like I did) millisecond delay? Also, where did you download your WDIdle3 application from and what version was it?


Thanks,

I am still waiting for this drive to be supported.
There's no news on the new NV+ Raidiator either.

smartwombat wrote:
I am still waiting for this drive to be supported. There's no news on the new NV+ Raidiator either.

I'm pretty sure the new RAIDiator 4.2.8 now supports these drives. Check out this post which also has the wdidle3 executable on bootable CD.

ReadyNAS vs WD RE4-GP (WD2002FYPS)

smartwombat wrote:
I am still waiting for this drive to be supported. There's no news on the new NV+ Raidiator either.

infrant.delta wrote:
I'm pretty sure the new RAIDiator 4.2.8 now supports these drives. Check out this post which also has the wdidle3 executable on bootable CD.

It's my understanding that the functionality of wdidle3 has been incorporated within RAIDiator since version 4.2.5 . I've been using these drives since last summer in a Pro at the direction of the techs and have load cycle count < 1K. Hope that helps.

infrant.delta wrote:
smartwombat wrote: I am still waiting for this drive to be supported. There's no news on the new NV+ Raidiator either. I'm pretty sure the new RAIDiator 4.2.8 now supports these drives.

Well that's not any use for the NV+ which is a Sparc ReadyNas and thus uses Sparc not x86 firmware.