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johnw230873
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May 25, 2015

Is the way the shares work reversed for you as well

After buying a RN104 to me it appears the way you setup your storage seems reverse.
In a normal system you set up a top level directory then you create structure bellow which can have multiple different leafs, you then store the data in the appropriate data in the right folder apply user rights on the folder and files and then if important create it as a root level share.
This approach give multiple entry points in the folder, different access rights at the same time only requiring 1 set of the data to be stored.

Now looking at the RN104 if I wanted to have a the folders like this
top
--music
----singles
--videos
----TV
----Movies
but also provide another top level share straight to my TV I would have to create a TV share as well and then copy all my TV from the top=>videos=>TV to this folder as well, so have 2 copies.

I have been able to use a workaround using WINSCP and symbolic links but this seems a work around and I'm worried that it could have a negative effect later on.

Does anyone have any suggestions on how we can achieve either different users rights on lower level folders or how we can mount lower level folder at the root level?

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  • StephenB's avatar
    StephenB
    Guru - Experienced User
    It's not reversed, but it is flattened in some use cases.

    -You can share the complete data volume of the NAS using admin credentials. You can't share a folder within a share (as you found out).

    -My TV media players all happily accept multiple CIFS or NFS shares. So I just skip the "videos" root and have

    --TV
    --SD Movies
    --HD Movies
    ..Kids
    ...

    Differing access rights on folders within a share is I think another topic altogether. Personally I think that is best avoided with network storage.
  • StephenB wrote:
    Differing access rights on folders within a share is I think another topic altogether. Personally I think that is best avoided with network storage.


    Why, the whole idea of a NAS is for multiple people to has access to the same device, I'm just trying to replicate what I would see if I create a iSCSI LUN and had it mounted and shared by a server?

    I would have thought it would have still been a good idea to offer the user the option at least, as other venders in their SAN provide this.

    For me this is just really messy, if I was a person that 99% of the time didn't want all the different folders e.g. music, videos, etc but some time did then I would need to have them all mapped or see them all at the root level.

    I do hope ReadyNas starts to offer these options at a later date as looking the forum I see I'm not the only person that has raised this type of question.
  • StephenB's avatar
    StephenB
    Guru - Experienced User
    johnw230873 wrote:
    StephenB wrote:
    Differing access rights on folders within a share is I think another topic altogether. Personally I think that is best avoided with network storage.


    Why, the whole idea of a NAS is for multiple people to has access to the same device, I'm just trying to replicate what I would see if I create a iSCSI LUN and had it mounted and shared by a server?
    I don't use iSCSI, but my understanding is that it is not a sharing protocol (that each LUN is intended to be mounted by only one client at a time).

    I think its much easier to manage user access at the share level (using network access controls), than the folder level (using file access permissions). However if you want to control permissions at the folder level, then mdgm's link should help.
  • mdgm-ntgr's avatar
    mdgm-ntgr
    NETGEAR Employee Retired
    StephenB wrote:

    I don't use iSCSI, but my understanding is that it is not a sharing protocol (that each LUN is intended to be mounted by only one client at a time).

    You can mount it on e.g. a server and share it from there as John suggests. What is a problem is if you try to mount the same LUN on a few machines at once. It's similar to how you don't hook up e.g. a USB disk to two machines at the same time, but you can share the contents of the USB disk with other devices on your network.
  • StephenB's avatar
    StephenB
    Guru - Experienced User
    mdgm wrote:
    StephenB wrote:

    I don't use iSCSI, but my understanding is that it is not a sharing protocol (that each LUN is intended to be mounted by only one client at a time).

    You can mount it on e.g. a server and share it from there as John suggests. What is a problem is if you try to mount the same LUN on a few machines at once. It's similar to how you don't hook up e.g. a USB disk to two machines at the same time, but you can share the contents of the USB disk with other devices on your network.
    Ok. So the network permissions are controlled by NFS or CIFS, and the LUN file system (ext, ntfs, btrfs...) is controlling the file permissions.

    That is of course the same as the ReadyNAS, except for the limitation of not exporting subfolders as their own shares.

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