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ReadyNAS Endless cost cycle
Ok I realize that once upon a time there were physical limits to volume size, Ive had the ReadyNAS, ReadyNAS+, And now have ReadyNAS Pro (6 bay) and a ReadyNAS Ultra6 and yet I am faced with STILL no support for increased drive sizes, 4TB, 6TB and 8TB and if I am reading correctly even if I cough up yet ANOTHER bundle of cash for a 316, or a 516 unit THEY are not rated for the larger drive sizes. So what gives? I have a 6 year old PC that I can plug an 8TB drive into and it doesn't blink...and yet MY hardware for my NAS does not seem able to meet my growing storage needs. SO in this day of 32bit and 64bit processors and OS's I should be able to manage up to 256TB drives/volumes and yet....I cant get 6Tb or 8TB support?
I need a solution to allow me to install larger drives as they come available. IS there a ReadyNAS offering for me, or do I need to switch vendors?
Ny Needs.... 50 or fewer concurrent users (usually much fewer) 48 to 100TB of storage in a single volume. Dual Gigabit Ethernet adapters.
Sorry if the tone is less than cordial, Im just feeling the space squeeze and feel like Im being milked for every penny that can be squeezed out of me for incremental upgrades.
I need a solution to allow me to install larger drives as they come available. IS there a ReadyNAS offering for me, or do I need to switch vendors?
Ny Needs.... 50 or fewer concurrent users (usually much fewer) 48 to 100TB of storage in a single volume. Dual Gigabit Ethernet adapters.
Sorry if the tone is less than cordial, Im just feeling the space squeeze and feel like Im being milked for every penny that can be squeezed out of me for incremental upgrades.
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- There are some 6 TB drives available on 314/316/516/716... Have you checked the hard-drive compatibility list?
NETGEAR's compatibility list comes from drives that have been tested and are known to work. You are free to try and use any other drive of your choosing, at the risk that it hasn't been tested in ReadyNAS and might have unintentional consequences. - Yes I did check the list which is what prompted this post....perhaps I have a dated link? But the fact remains I still have the Pro and Ultra6 which SHOULD be able to support large drives and yet have no support :(
Also if you compare the 314 and the 514 they show different volume maxes for no apparent reason. immagikman wrote: Yes I did check the list which is what prompted this post....perhaps I have a dated link? But the fact remains I still have the Pro and Ultra6 which SHOULD be able to support large drives and yet have no support :(
Also if you compare the 314 and the 514 they show different volume maxes for no apparent reason.
The Pro and Ultra6 run RAIDiator 4.2. The limitations you have on there are ext4 and md. These are also end of life products.
For instance, if you take a ReadyNAS Pro6 and put 6 6TB drives in it, and issue a factory default, you should have around 30TB, but no possible XRAID expansion, since the limitations to expand is after 16TB.
We don't have a 514. We have a 516.- Link to compatibility list: http://kb.netgear.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/20641
- Sorry meant the x16 family..... and the 316 and 516 in the comparison page have different max storage numbers but I cant find an explanation of why.
so in theory, if I were to upgrade to the 316 and/or the 516 I should eventually have support for 8TB drives and larger?
And if so, a side question, is it possible to purchase spare Power Supplies for the 316/516 family? ass that has historically been a
problem for the older machines. immagikman wrote: Sorry meant the x16 family..... and the 316 and 516 in the comparison page have different max storage numbers but I cant find an explanation of why.
so in theory, if I were to upgrade to the 316 and/or the 516 I should eventually have support for 8TB drives and larger?
And if so, a side question, is it possible to purchase spare Power Supplies for the 316/516 family? *** that has historically been a
problem for the older machines.
Can you provide a link to the document that shows the different in volume size between a 316 and a 516?
I know on the top of my head that the ReadyNAS 516 also supports the EDA chassis, so you can theoretically have an additional 5 drives worth of data, if those numbers were pretty far in the distance.- Yes here it is, 64 vs 84TB
http://www.netgear.com/compare.aspx
oops, that is the link as it shows in my browser when I click on compare I selected the 316, 516 and 716 after having narrowed the field to 6 bay diskless units
But you cant go to that link directly I guess.
According to the caomparator all the x16 units can use the EDA expansions
Also it appears that even though there are a number of 6TB disks listed for the 516 unit it still says on the stats page that 24TB max without the ED expansion....is this dated info?
On the Amazon site it also says 24TB is max size as well. - 64/84 TB with the EDA500s installed. Without expansion chassis both are the same 24 TB. The reason for the difference is that the RN316 only supports 2 EDA500, while the RN516 supports 3 (the previous line in the data sheet!)
That 24 TB number is wrong of course - 24 TB assumes 4 TB drives, which were the largest available when the product was released. 6 TB works now, and there's no technical reason why 8 TB won't work. So that number ends up doubled at least.
The 20 TB number for the EDA500 is low for the same reason.
Also, it is often practical to install more than one NAS - allowing you to preserve your original investment in the chassis and the disks. Personally I'd do that before getting an EDA500. - I had some issues with the compare function for some reason.
I went to the datasheet. http://www.downloads.netgear.com/files/ ... -RN700.pdf
For instance, the 312 says it supports 16TB internally but that's only possible with RAID 0 and 2 8TB drives. The expansion chassis you can use on it could also be populated with 5 8TB drives, which would give it 40 TB additional... so those values don't really seem accurate, so I'm unsure where the two additional gigabytes come from. The 314, using same logic of supporting 8 TB drives, would support 32 TB internally, and since it has 2 ESATA ports, it can do 80 TB in those 2 ports... randomly an additional 4 TB shows on data sheet. The 716 has 3 eSATA ports, so it can do 120 TB, with an additional 6 TB showing up on that unit...
I'm inquiring about the values and will provide an update when available.
For now, I would recommend looking more at the hardware to meet your specific requirements. If you just need a 6 disk unit to be a regular file store (nothing super intensive), then you should be good with 316. If you need more power, then go with 516. If you need lots of RAM, 716 is an amazing little box. - I think the 516 is the one Im going to have to go with, I need the power and space to store and serve up/stream Ripped BluRay & DVD .iso images. I am already sitting at about 24TB of images but see this doubling in the forseeable future...but think my total need will max out around 64TB or so. The key is that I would like to keep this as a single RAID or XRAID volume. Guess I also need to look into the pros and cons of RAID5, 6 and XRAID....Im unfamiliar with the current limitations of the XRAID set up.
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